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Hello Everyone this is Pierre

i have tested extensively https://join.transformadora.org/ yesterday - and i have reflected it on the fly here in this page http://openfsm.net/projects/bcnet19/bcnet19-comisiones-input16 -
There are some structural issues beyond usual points which are in relation with concerns i have expressed earlier about who edits what

All @@ points with double arroba + all the green issuesgreen issuesare potential tickets forhttp://pad.transformadora.org/pads/incidencias

STARTING WITH STRUCTURAL ISSUE

About " who edits what" .... this is a contradictory chaos see part A B below

I have made tests with 3 different users - and it appears that

  • 1/anyone can HIGHJACK an organization form, an activity from, an initiative form (ie an object) registered by someone else
  • 2/ when a new user selects the name of another object from the dynamic list search when creating an object - that is the highjack he accesses the existing form with that name
  • 3/ WHENEVER a new user highjacks an object he restarts the object description to ZERO -( all what has been written by co editors before his arrival is cancelled
  • 4/ if when the circle of highjackers-coeditors is stable and is meaningful, it becomes a workable circle of co editors but take into account 3 and 7 people will be groping their way
  • 5/ HOWEVER this model is NOT CONSISTENT -: the contact person by default is always the one that has edited last , and always changing - there is no explicit pluralityit is not possible to announce other contact persons who are not "me"
  • 6/ same for any other object that would be relevantly mentioned in a form such as the various organisations co-promoting an activity or an initiative, and some of their related contact person/ responsible /representatives for them - i can only select objects that i have created or that i have highjacked -it is not possible to announce other objects who are not "mine"
  • 7/ THERE IS NO mutual INDICATION WHATSOEVER ABOUT WHO ARE THE DIFFERENT USERS THAT ARE EDITING THE SAME FORM this will add to the chaos

CONCLUSION there is sharp contrast between A/ the fact that anyone can highjack ANYTHINGand B anyone can mention ONLY "my" objects in the structuring linking fields when it would be relevant to mention objects form others

so my PROPOSAL IS

  • A / make the first part co editing a same object restricted to a list ( i have proposed that the first editor of an object fills a field where he can select from user directory the name of several already registered people that would be able co edit the object and add possible new people in that list -( so not restrict to 2 contact person) and use the system which exist ( adding dynamically new fields for website or contacts ) to add new contacts ( up to 5?) . The system is currently meaningless as it is restricted to "objects i am responsible for"
    • -ideally : a first person creates the object and declares the coeditor organizations and the coeditor peoples among the people responsibe for this orgnisation and communicates this to the other coeditors
      then these people register and come to highjack the object and they are together a muutally conscious and "organized" coediting team for this same object
  • check http://openfsm.net/projects/bcnet19/bcnet19-comisiones-input14/#F3and back to http://openfsm.net/projects/bcnet19/bcnet19-comisiones-input12/#D1>> in section D1, check the Q & A text on registration with the distinction between "technical representative" and "declared representative" and the "field 15" in the D1C displayed form in the organization form- which would be replaced by this adding fields system visible in xxxxxxxxxx below
  • one tricky issue is to avoid that the common form content be set to zero each time a co edtitor "comes" in through "hijacking" the object -

  • see tickets R-1 O-1 O-2 O-3 A-1 A-2 A-3 A-4 I-1 I-2 I-3 I-4

  • B/ make the second part of mentionning third party objects easieri-e be entitled to mention any object such as as user a co promoting organization ( for activities an initiatives) , any initiative as object of activity ( activity form) and depending on this any user who is mentioned as editor of this object

  • see tickets R-1 O-1 O-2 O-3 A-1 A-2 A-3 A-4 I-1 I-2 I-3 I-4

  • C/ i think MOST IF NOT ALL THE ISSUES reported in highlight green should be taken in the ticket list http://openfsm.net/projects/bcnet19/bcnet19-comisiones-input16 a good part of the 16 issues i mentionned earlierhttp://openfsm.net/projects/bcnet19/bcnet19-comisiones-input14are simple add field tickets which do not present tecnical problems- in view of the numerous mapping localization + tagging fields existing in activity and initiative form ,it would be only fair to add some "content" fields such as

    P-1/ R-8 A-12 A-13 I-5 I-6 I-12 I-15 I16 I-17

  • D/ there are i a @@ points a series of other things that relate to normal testing , including functionalities that do no work
  • E/ I do think a verbal meeting is URGENT in the test team and in a second step with civicrm team

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1/User Menu + directories M-x tickets 8 tickets

@@M-1 we cannot see the name of the user with wich we are logged- this would be useful


USER MENU

@ISSUE 1 directories 1


Home


My Profile


@@M-2 development of public directory of participants http://openfsm.net/projects/bcnet19/bcnet19-comisiones-input14/#F1

Register organization


Organizations i belonghttps://join.transformadora.org/?q=user-organizations
@@M-3 does not seem to be working - in my Personal submission i said i was with some organization and they does not appear


@@M-4 the two cases below ( responsible and not responisable should NOT be the same wording

Contact (related to) Organizations

Organizations im responsible

https://join.transformadora.org/?q=user-responsible-oganizations**

https://join.transformadora.org/?q=node/16&cid2=110quisco responsible for Test Org2 Pierre but Test org2 pierre is not existing in Pierre context !!! ( althrough it is selectable as existing orgname in quisco context
i have finally managed to create tit trhgough pierre and the url is the same
https://join.transformadora.org/?q=node/16&cid2=110

@so we are both responsible of the same orga and accessing the same file and the last one to speak overrides or completes the latter
BUT ANYTIME A NEW USER SELF DECLARES RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS ORG EVERYTUNG IS ERASED
@ ALSO EACH TIME THE contact person changes for the one who is editing the org file

Contact (responsible for) Organizations

@when i view my submision i cannot see the description of the organization am saying I represent - i have to go toOrganizations im responsible to edit it

@@M-5 development of public directory of organizations http://openfsm.net/projects/bcnet19/bcnet19-comisiones-input14/#F1


FSMET Registration@can register only once and view and edit my submission

You have already submitted this form.View your previous submissions.

https://join.transformadora.org/?q=node/2

https://join.transformadora.org/?q=node/2/submissions


@@M-6development of publicdirectory of pre approved activitieshttp://openfsm.net/projects/bcnet19/bcnet19-comisiones-input14/#F1

@pre approved meaning they are approved in content, but pending some logistical capacity limitation which would result in stimulating merging between preapproved activities

Register Activity

https://join.transformadora.org/?q=node/17

@received this by mail - is this intended to be a kind of acknowledgement that an actifity has been registered - is this a first element for a directory of activities ???

mario.ferreyra

Test Activ Pierre version 2

Activity Summary - Activity of FSMET
Edit activity
View activity
With Contact(s) Test inititiative Pierre
Activity Type Activity of FSMET
Subject Test Activ Pierre version 2
Created By Pierre George
Reported By Pierre George
Assigned to Pierre George, TestOrg2 pierre, TestOrg1
Location
Date and Time February 3rd, 2020 2:37 AM
Details

Edit Submission@check this

Duration 100 minutes
Status Available
Priority Normal
Activity Fields
Contact (Email) facilitfsm.sdpaaa at gmail
Methodology and expected results the methodology is word café about the initiative in discusion - it is funny to see that the description and methodolgu are different fields in activity while difficult to have some more fields for initaitives - adding more text

@@O-6 important that http expresion are recognized and activated
Activity format World Café
List of areas Other/s
Other(s) area(s) discussing intiative
Estimated number of participants 50
Type of space required for the activity not big
Will you need / bring equipment (eg. Projector, posters…) no
Language(s) of the Activity Other/s
Other/s Language(s) of the Activity universal language
Blended activity: are you planning online interaction during the activity (streaming, video/audio meeting, use of social media, etc.)? well that is a good idea - we will take care of this - we have a facebook page to stream from and a jisti teleconference room
Brief Description this is an activity designed to present test iniatiive ( which is in error) - i have just changed the name to see if it s updated

@ i have edited a version three through the activity menu and did not receive antythingwhy do i receive this only for activities and not for organizations or initiaives ???


@@M-7development of publicdirectory of presented initiativeshttp://openfsm.net/projects/bcnet19/bcnet19-comisiones-input14/#F1

My initiatives

My Initiatives

Test inititiative Pierre

Edit

https://join.transformadora.org/?q=my-initiatives

@@M-8 the name of the initiative is correctly indicated but this Edit menu is linking to a void organizations form NOT TO the INITIATIVE with this title

https://join.transformadora.org/?q=node/16&cid2=111


Register initiative

https://join.transformadora.org/?q=node/18

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2/ My profile P-x tickets 1 ticket

My profile

https://join.transformadora.org/?q=user

@propose to edit - with a tab edti basic info which gives logically an error - but the name could be changed
https://join.transformadora.org/?q=user/70/edit

Your current password is missing or incorrect; it's required to change theE-mail address.

Account(active tab)Basic informationInformación básica complementaria
Current password
Enter your current password to change the E-mail address or Password. Request new password.
E-mail address *
pierregrg
Password
Confirm password
Picture
Upload picture
Language settings
Language
English (EN)
French (FR)
Portuguese, Portugal (PT)
Spanish (ES)
Catalan (CA)

HideLocale settings
Time zone

@@P-1 ISSUE 2 add field yourAccount username in decidimhttp://openfsm.net/projects/bcnet19/bcnet19-comisiones-input14/#F2

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3/ WSFTE personal registration + update R-x tickets 9 tickets

Formulario de inscripción individuo
Submitted by Anónimo (not verified) on Thu, 01/16/2020 - 10:35
Organization / Group you are representing in the WSFTE:

@ currently you can select any org in the list and make yourself responsible of any org already registered ( highjacking ) - check here or it should be in the organization form this is illogical

Si perteneces a una organización pero no la encuentras en el listado, deberás primero inscribir a tu organización (por única vez), para luego poder hacer la inscripción individual.
Ir a la inscripción de organización
Existing organization

@@R-1 ONLY THE PEOPLE MENTIONNED IN THE corresponding ORGANIZATION FORM as coeditors ( see @@ O-3 SEE @@ SHOULD SEE ONLY THE ORGANIZATIONS THEY ARE AWAITED IN this way no one can boast being representative /responsiable of an organization that does not count this person among its coeditors

Are you also part of another organization(s) / network ?:

@@R-2 you cannot make multiple selection? did not find how what about the "s" - use the adding field feature and open the list of organizations

Si perteneces a una organización pero no la encuentras en el listado, deberás primero inscribir a tu organización (por única vez), para luego poder hacer la inscripción individual.
Ir a la inscripción de organización >>
Existing Organization

Languages

@@R-3 you cannot make multiple selection?
Which language(s) do you speak? CatalanSpanishEnglishFrenchGermanPortugueseItalianOther/s
Which language(s) do you understand? CatalanSpanishEnglishFrenchGermanPortugueseItalianOther/s
Submitted by Anónimo (not verified) on Thu, 01/16/2020 - 10:35


Transformative Orientations
@@R-4 not possible multiple selection? at least up to 2
Are you part of a social movement / transformative economies movement?

Social Solidarity EconomyAgroecologyCommonsFeminist economicsTransition townsDegrowthOther/s
@@R-5 not possible multiple selection? at least up to 3
In what field or sector do you work in / are you an activist for ?
AcademicAccessAccess to knowledgeAccommodationActivismAdministrationAdvocacyAgricultural productsAgricultureAgriculture servicesAgroecologyAgroextrativismAlternative communicationAnimal welfareAnti-racismArtArtsBankingBiodiversityBuen vivirBusinessCampaigningCareCare workCharityChildrenCircular economyClimateClimate actionCollaborative economyCommerceCommonsCommunicationCommunity & collective spacesCommunity developmentConservationConstructionCraftmanshipCreative commonsCultural inclusivenessCultureCurrenciesCurriculumCyclingDecent workDecision makingDegrowthDemocracyDevelopment aidDifferently AbledDigitalDisabilityDistributionDiversityDomestic workEcological packingEcological restorationEcologyEducationEmploymentEnergyEntertainmentEnvironmentEnvironmentally sustainableEqual opportunityEqualityFair TradeFaithFaith-based communityFamiliesFeminismFight against povertyFinanceFinancialFoodFood sovereigntyFree culture and knowledgeFree libre & open source softwareGenderGender equityGlobal relationsGoods & servicesGovernanceHabitatHandicraftHealthHealthcareHerbal medicinesHeritageHospitalityHousehold activitiesHousingHousing rightsHuman rightsIndigenous peoplesIndustryInformationInfrastructureInsuranceInternationalInternational cooperationInternational diplomacyIrish travellerJobsLabourLawLBGTQI+LearningLegalLegal structuresLeisureLocal economyLogisticsManagementManufacturingMarketsMaterialsMediaMedicinalMembership activitiesMigrantMiningMobilityMoneyMovement organizingNatural cosmeticsNatural environmentNatural resourcesNatureNetworkingNetworksOlder peopleOrganicOwnership structuresPeasant's farmingPermaculturePhilanthropyPopular educationPovertyProcessingProductionProfessionalPropertyPublic administrationPublic policiespublic worksPubsQuarryingRecreationRecyclingReduceRefugeeRegulationReligionRentalsRepairReproductive labourResearchResourcesRetailReuseRight to the CityRightsRefurbishingRenewable energyScienceSecuritySelf-managementSharing economySkillsSocialSocial and solidarity financesSocial careSocial clubSocial economySocial financeSocial InclusionSocial justiceSocial movementsocial securitySocial servicesSocial solidarity economySolidarity economySpiritualSportsStorageSustainable Development GoalsSystemsTechnical activitiesTechnologyTerritorial developmentTourismTradeTrade UnionTrainingTransition TownsTransportUnemployed peopleUpcycleUtilitiesVolunteeringWaste treatmentWaterWater cycleWellbeingWellnessWomenWorkYoung PeopleYouthOther/s
Travel Necessities

@multiple selection?
Do you need an invitation to obtain a VISA?

No


Participation in the FSMET
Have you read and do you subscribe to the World Social Forum Charter of principles? *and consider yourself participant in the process as participant and process are described in the charter
@@R-6 i would reword the wording as indicated above
Yes( @obliged)
Will you attend the FSMET in Barcelona (25-28 June 2020)?
Yes
No
Maybe

Online(see@ISSUE 6- field in activity registration)

Are you participating in a local or thematic convergence? BarcelonaSpainItalyFrance OccitaniePublic PoliciesEducationOther/s

@when selecting other a new field appears and i can put any name of convergence apparently the comma issue is not true convegenceA, converrgence B appeares as one block

@what i have input can be selected by other users when they register

@@R-7 IT IS NOT CLEAR how are other confluences generated ?

How did you hear about the FSMET?

@what i have input can be selected by other users when they register

What are your expectations regarding the Forum?

@what i have input can be selected by other users when they register

Privacy and authorizations
Privacy Terms: EU GDPR
Privacy Terms *
Yes
Authorize to be contacted (from the organising team and commissions)

No
Authorize to receive communications / periodical information about the FSMET (newsletter, etc.)

No
Authorize to display public information in the FSMET online platforms (maps,event app,etc.)

No
Authorize to be contacted for a collective research project about the FSMET

No

@@ R-8 M-1 ISSUE 2 yourAccount username in decidimhttp://openfsm.net/projects/bcnet19/bcnet19-comisiones-input14/#F2
Participant Fee *
$
100

Thank you, your submission has been received.

@ how are other confluences generated ?
https://join.transformadora.org/?q=node/2/submission/96@ it is displayed submission 37 - can view and edit

Submission updated.@after making change

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4/ organization registration+update O-x 9 tickets

@how is this second contact entered - @@ the search seems to work but does not give results or it only shows myself - other users are not visible in the existing contact box
@why not add a third contact
can the two contact edit the organization form

@@O-3 WHO ARE THE COEDITORS change to a addfield system coeditors of the org - where the first editor of the org select up to 5 people from the P directory @@M-2 ticket - this section should come AFTER the organisation name is DEFINED


Organization
Organization Name *

@@we can select the name of an exiting organization ???????? - then it becomes our organization and we can edit the form

@@0-1 RESTRICT THE DISPLAY TO ORGANIZATION AM AWAITED IN AS CO EDITOR THROUGH @@O-1

@@0-2 if you are co-edting an organization - click "here" to access the current status of the description ( this is to avoid erasing what the others have already written - there should be no reseting of the form


Logo / image of org.
@@-4 it is not clear if the logo import is working the image is sometimes visible sometimes not
More information
Files must be less than 2 MB.
Allowed file types: gif jpg jpeg png.

@only images?
Street Address
City
Postal Code
Country *
State/Province
Phone Number
Correo electrónico
Website

@there is a multiplication of websites website 1 website 2 and adding a new field whenever the last is filled - ( this seems to go up to 5 - this same sistem can be used for defining the co editors
Network
Are you member of a network?

@the list of network is the same as the list of organizations
@@0-5 " it should say IN ALL THOSE type of fields type something to trigger the search "

@
Description
Mission / brief description

@@O-6 how long can be that text , will it relfect line breaks blank ines and activation as link of http:// expression

Main activities

@@0-7 you can select only one in this long listshould be up to 3

* AcademicAccessAccess to knowledgeAccommodationActivismAdministrationAdvocacyAgricultural productsAgricultureAgriculture servicesAgroecologyAgroextrativismAlternative communicationAnimal welfareAnti-racismArtArtsBankingBiodiversityBuen vivirBusinessCampaigningCareCare workCharityChildrenCircular economyClimateClimate actionCollaborative economyCommerceCommonsCommunicationCommunity & collective spacesCommunity developmentConservationConstructionCraftmanshipCreative commonsCultural inclusivenessCultureCurrenciesCurriculumCyclingDecent workDecision makingDegrowthDemocracyDevelopment aidDifferently AbledDigitalDisabilityDistributionDiversityDomestic workEcological packingEcological restorationEcologyEducationEmploymentEnergyEntertainmentEnvironmentEnvironmentally sustainableEqual opportunityEqualityFair TradeFaithFaith-based communityFamiliesFeminismFight against povertyFinanceFinancialFoodFood sovereigntyFree culture and knowledgeFree libre & open source softwareGenderGender equityGlobal relationsGoods & servicesGovernanceHabitatHandicraftHealthHealthcareHerbal medicinesHeritageHospitalityHousehold activitiesHousingHousing rightsHuman rightsIndigenous peoplesIndustryInformationInfrastructureInsuranceInternationalInternational cooperationInternational diplomacyIrish travellerJobsLabourLawLBGTQI+LearningLegalLegal structuresLeisureLocal economyLogisticsManagementManufacturingMarketsMaterialsMediaMedicinalMembership activitiesMigrantMiningMobilityMoneyMovement organizingNatural cosmeticsNatural environmentNatural resourcesNatureNetworkingNetworksOlder peopleOrganicOwnership structuresPeasant's farmingPermaculturePhilanthropyPopular educationPovertyProcessingProductionProfessionalPropertyPublic administrationPublic policiespublic worksPubsQuarryingRecreationRecyclingReduceRefugeeRegulationReligionRentalsRepairReproductive labourResearchResourcesRetailReuseRight to the CityRightsRefurbishingRenewable energyScienceSecuritySelf-managementSharing economySkillsSocialSocial and solidarity financesSocial careSocial clubSocial economySocial financeSocial InclusionSocial justiceSocial movementsocial securitySocial servicesSocial solidarity economySolidarity economySpiritualSportsStorageSustainable Development GoalsSystemsTechnical activitiesTechnologyTerritorial developmentTourismTradeTrade UnionTrainingTransition TownsTransportUnemployed peopleUpcycleUtilitiesVolunteeringWaste treatmentWaterWater cycleWellbeingWellnessWomenWorkYoung PeopleYouthOther/s

General Info

Type of organization
@@O-8 you can select only one in this long list

* AcademicAssociationCharityCo-operativeCo-operative Members (Secondary Co-op)CollectiveCommunity groupCompanyConsumer MembersEmployee TrustEnterprise MembersInformal Group – CollectiveLocal AuthorityMulti-stakeholder MembersNGO (Non Governmental Organisation)Not-For-ProfitProducer MembersPublic entitySelf-employed MembersSocial EnterpriseSocietyTenants MembersTrade UnionUnincorporatedUnionVolunteer MembersWorker MembersOther

@if you select "other" you can add a new type

Scope *

Mapping
Is the organisation „mapped“ in an online mapping platform? Introduce the URL
Are you interested in being contacted and collaborating with mapping projects participating in the forum?

No
Participation in the FSMET (Organization)
Does the organisation adhere to the WSF Charter? andconsider itself participant in the process as participant and process are described in the charter

@@O-9 change the wording as per above
Yes ( obliged )

Is the org. part of a social movement / transformative economies movement ?

@@O-10 you can select only one in this list should be 2

Social Solidarity EconomyAgroecologyCommonsFeminist economicsTransition townsDegrowthOther/s
Will you have a delegation at the forum (how many people)?

Do you need a stall / space for the organisation at the FSMET?

No
Can your organisation contribute financially / support the Forum‘s organisation in any way?
Authorization to publish this information on FSMET online platforms under a CC 4.0 licence *
Yes


@ al final vez este mensaje y te permite editar

Thank you, your submission has been received.

Sorry, due to an error, we are unable to fulfill your request at the moment. You may want to contact your administrator or service provider with more details about what action you were performing when this occurred.
@ despite this message about Test Org2 pierre the object seems to have been created and as i have been able with user "qfospa to declare myself as responsible for Test2 org ,in WSFTE registration - i have erased the content put by user "'pierre" - now i can create a new version of Test2Org Pierre


DB Error: unknown error

Return to home page.

@i have also created the same Test Org2 pierre with user "facil" - it seems the last edit orverrides other and if a field is not filled the earlier version field is maintained - However whenever a new use reclaim the orgname the common form is reset to zero

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5/ Activity registration + update A-x tickets 14 tickets

Inscripción de una Actividad
Submitted by geneos on Thu, 01/23/2020 - 21:28
Existing Contact
Existing Contact

this part should go AFTER THE ACTIVITY NAME IS CONFIRMED
Pierre George
@how to edit?@

@A-3 who can edit? should be the same as for organizations : the first person to edit the activity from gives a list of organization collaborating on this activitythis list can be dynamically updated along the way by coeditors

@A-4 this first person also selects a list of those coeditors of the various orgs he mentionned - this list can be dynamically updated along the way by coeditors

Activity
Name of the activity *

  • @@A-1 RESTRICT THE DISPLAY of the name this activity TO the people listed as co organizers in the activity form if it exists ACTIVIVITES WHERE AM AWAITED IN AS CO EDITOR THROUGH
  • @@A-2 if you are co-edting an ACTIVITY - click "here" to access the current status of the description ( this is to avoid erasing what the others have already written - there should be no reseting of the form

@A-2 this first person to edit and co editors select a list of those coeditors of the various orgs he mentionned

  • @@A-3 WHO ARE THE COorganizing entities for this activity change to a addfield system - where the first and co editor of the org select up to 5 orgafnization from the O directory @@M-3 ticket
  • @@A-4 WHO ARE THE persons co responsible for this activity change to a addfield system coeditors of the org - where the first editor of the org select up to 5 people from the P directory@@M-2 ticketthat are known to be coeditors of the organizations selected in O-3

Brief Description *
Expected Duration
min.
Contact (Email) *
Methodology and expected results *

@-Observing that the description and methodolgu are different fields in activity, while it is sooo difficult to have some more fields for initaitives( check issues @@@@


Activity format

@@A-5 here is no "other" feature in the format why?
Activity Area
@@A-6 should be possible select up to 2 fields

* AcademicAccessAccess to knowledgeAccommodationActivismAdministrationAdvocacyAgricultural productsAgricultureAgriculture servicesAgroecologyAgroextrativismAlternative communicationAnimal welfareAnti-racismArtArtsBankingBiodiversityBuen vivirBusinessCampaigningCareCare workCharityChildrenCircular economyClimateClimate actionCollaborative economyCommerceCommonsCommunicationCommunity & collective spacesCommunity developmentConservationConstructionCraftmanshipCreative commonsCultural inclusivenessCultureCurrenciesCurriculumCyclingDecent workDecision makingDegrowthDemocracyDevelopment aidDifferently AbledDigitalDisabilityDistributionDiversityDomestic workEcological packingEcological restorationEcologyEducationEmploymentEnergyEntertainmentEnvironmentEnvironmentally sustainableEqual opportunityEqualityFair TradeFaithFaith-based communityFamiliesFeminismFight against povertyFinanceFinancialFoodFood sovereigntyFree culture and knowledgeFree libre & open source softwareGenderGender equityGlobal relationsGoods & servicesGovernanceHabitatHandicraftHealthHealthcareHerbal medicinesHeritageHospitalityHousehold activitiesHousingHousing rightsHuman rightsIndigenous peoplesIndustryInformationInfrastructureInsuranceInternationalInternational cooperationInternational diplomacyIrish travellerJobsLabourLawLBGTQI+LearningLegalLegal structuresLeisureLocal economyLogisticsManagementManufacturingMarketsMaterialsMediaMedicinalMembership activitiesMigrantMiningMobilityMoneyMovement organizingNatural cosmeticsNatural environmentNatural resourcesNatureNetworkingNetworksOlder peopleOrganicOwnership structuresPeasant's farmingPermaculturePhilanthropyPopular educationPovertyProcessingProductionProfessionalPropertyPublic administrationPublic policiespublic worksPubsQuarryingRecreationRecyclingReduceRefugeeRegulationReligionRentalsRepairReproductive labourResearchResourcesRetailReuseRight to the CityRightsRefurbishingRenewable energyScienceSecuritySelf-managementSharing economySkillsSocialSocial and solidarity financesSocial careSocial clubSocial economySocial financeSocial InclusionSocial justiceSocial movementsocial securitySocial servicesSocial solidarity economySolidarity economySpiritualSportsStorageSustainable Development GoalsSystemsTechnical activitiesTechnologyTerritorial developmentTourismTradeTrade UnionTrainingTransition TownsTransportUnemployed peopleUpcycleUtilitiesVolunteeringWaste treatmentWaterWater cycleWellbeingWellnessWomenWorkYoung PeopleYouthOther/s

@"other" is working here - while not working in initiative ? see issue @@@

@@A- 7 ISSUE 5 Categorizar la actividadsegún las 3 dimensiones temática - retos - necesidades- momentos en el eventohttp://openfsm.net/projects/bcnet19/bcnet19-comisiones-input14/#F5

@this implies setting up some select item fields with the relevant categories challenges necessities moments

Estimated number of participants *
Type of space required for the activity *
Will you need / bring equipment (eg. Projector, posters…)

Language(s) of the Activity
@@A-7 Allow selection of 2 languages? and add a text field " how will the translation issues be handled? "

* CatalanSpanishEnglishFrenchGermanPortugueseItalianOther/s

Blended activity: are you planning online interaction during the activity (streaming, video/audio meeting, use of social media, etc.)?
@@A-8 finalize a wording of the field titleISSUE 6es no - comment - can we announce it in the program ? how online participants can get in touch with you beore the event? : favor explicar si y cómo ustedes se organizaran sin apoyo del comité organizador para acoger la participación en línea de personas que no se encuentren físicamente en la sala

@@A-9 the field is too short !!!


Proponent Organization
Existing Organization 1 *

Proponent Organization

Existing Organization 1 *
@ this is the multiple add fild system ok but so far i can only select among my object this should be putthis is @@A-3 to be place above just after the activity name selection

TestOrg2 pierre×

Existing Organization 2

TestOrg1×

Existing Organization 3

@this is the multiple add fild system ok but so far ii can select only organizations am responsible forl - this is way too restrictive - also if we compare to the highjacking of organizations taht is possible in the register organizations fieldthis is @@A-4 above just after the activity name selection

Is the activity linked to an initiative ?

Existing Initiative 1

Test inititiative Pierre×

Existing Initiative 2

Is the activity linked to an initiative ?
@@A-10 i currently can select only organizations am responsible forl - should be open to all iniciatives this is way too restrictive - also if we compare to the highjacking of all organizations taht is possible in the register organizations field - the mutiple add field system as visible just above should be implemented

@@A-11 change the wording of the question - "which initiatives will be discussed in this activity?" - select from list

@@ A-12 ISSUE 4 Uso foro Online -give a link to online space related to this activity en relación con esta actividad( max 400 signas 5 líneas)

@ this can be minimally a one link field

@@A-13 ISSUE 7 url aboutDocumentación de la actividad donde y como a(max 400 signas= 5 líneas ) give links to documentation - to be edited after the eventthe mutiple add link field system as visible just above could be implemented

Submission #22

https://join.transformadora.org/?q=node/17/done&sid=112

Thank you, your submission has been received.

Submission updated.

Test Activ Pierre version 2@if the name of the activiity is changed it follows

Edit

@@A-14 HOWEVER AFTER THIS NAME CHANGE THE EDIT BUTTON IS NOT WORKINGwhile it seemed to work initiallyTO BE CHECKED

https://join.transformadora.org/?q=my-activities#
@@it is possible to edit going to this linkhttps://join.transformadora.org/?q=node/17/submission/112

now qfospa highjacking the test activ pierre activity

https://join.transformadora.org/?q=node/17/done&sid=113

@ this is incoherent i can highjack a activity that has been created by somebody else, but i cannot declare that organizations created by others are co promoting this activity

i have created another activity proper by user qfospa

@i see that user qfospa can relate the activity with" test intiative pierre" that he highjacked

https://join.transformadora.org/?q=node/17/done&sid=115

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Formulario inscripción Iniciativa
Submitted by geneos on Sun, 01/26/2020 - 14:22
Responsable
Existing Contact *
Pierre G
@how to edit?@who can edit?Initiative
Initiative
+ Create new +
Name of your initiative *

@@I-1 RESTRICT THE DISPLAY of the name this activity TO the people listed as co organizers in the activity form if it exists ACTIVIVITES WHERE AM AWAITED IN AS CO EDITOR THROUGH

@@I-2 if you are co-edting an ACTIVITY - click "here" to access the current status of the description ( this is to avoid erasing what the others have already written - there should be no reseting of the form

@@ this first person to edit selects a list of those coeditors of the various orgs he mentionned

@@I-3 WHO ARE THE COorganizing entities for this activity change to a addfield system - where the first and co editor of the org select up to 5 orgafnization from the O directory @@M-3 ticket

@@I-4 WHO ARE THE persons co responsible for this activity change to a addfield system coeditors of the org - where the first editor of the org select up to 5 people from the P directory@@M-2 ticketthat are known to be coeditors of the organizations selected in O-3

@@I-5 ISSUE 10 initiagive is existing of launched in wsfte?

Existing Initiative 1@ this is relevant because the situation is very different although they are both initiatives

http://openfsm.net/projects/bcnet19/bcnet19-comisiones-input14/#F10
Street Address
City
Postal Code
Country *
State/Province
Phone Number
Correo electrónico
Homepage of your initiative if any

@ok - it is a bit bizarre to have so many fields to record the adress of an iniative which is not such a clear notion - and negotiate harshly on the fields that carry "elements of description of an intiative- THERE IS CURRENTLY ONLY ONE FIELD WHERE TO DESCRIBE THE INITIATIVE

Initiative information
Brief description (Purpose or mission of your initiative, what it wants to transform, etc.) *


@@i-5 ISSUE 12 Summary of work plan with 1 to 3 public action dates to be included in the wsfte self organized calendar - civicrm <> communecter
check give link -https://cloud.transformadora.org/s/Ta7m7F3TA2a5i2k@explaining the importance of this field

Scope *

@ok


@@I-6 ISSUE11 geographical area of development of the iniTative
@ area of development and postal adress are a quite different thing !!!

Type of initiative *

@@I-7 Public Campaign Direct Action@struggle @Struggle for Innovative practice @ Online initiative Boycott Demonstration Other @ Add categories STRUGGLE , TRANSFORMATIVE PROJECT,take out the categories direct action & boycott ( these are form of action used by initiatives, not form of initiative - eg boycott is a type of campaign

@@I-8 select here the type of public action you envision on the public action dates
have a specific list selecting other is not triggering a field as in registering organization" - reflaction- manifestaction- involvaction- argumentaction- exposaction and all that will be brought by "others"

self tagging
Main activity area

* AcademicAccessAccess to knowledgeAccommodationActivismAdministrationAdvocacyAgricultural productsAgricultureAgriculture servicesAgroecologyAgroextrativismAlternative communicationAnimal welfareAnti-racismArtArtsBankingBiodiversityBuen vivirBusinessCampaigningCareCare workCharityChildrenCircular economyClimateClimate actionCollaborative economyCommerceCommonsCommunicationCommunity & collective spacesCommunity developmentConservationConstructionCraftmanshipCreative commonsCultural inclusivenessCultureCurrenciesCurriculumCyclingDecent workDecision makingDegrowthDemocracyDevelopment aidDifferently AbledDigitalDisabilityDistributionDiversityDomestic workEcological packingEcological restorationEcologyEducationEmploymentEnergyEntertainmentEnvironmentEnvironmentally sustainableEqual opportunityEqualityFair TradeFaithFaith-based communityFamiliesFeminismFight against povertyFinanceFinancialFoodFood sovereigntyFree culture and knowledgeFree libre & open source softwareGenderGender equityGlobal relationsGoods & servicesGovernanceHabitatHandicraftHealthHealthcareHerbal medicinesHeritageHospitalityHousehold activitiesHousingHousing rightsHuman rightsIndigenous peoplesIndustryInformationInfrastructureInsuranceInternationalInternational cooperationInternational diplomacyIrish travellerJobsLabourLawLBGTQI+LearningLegalLegal structuresLeisureLocal economyLogisticsManagementManufacturingMarketsMaterialsMediaMedicinalMembership activitiesMigrantMiningMobilityMoneyMovement organizingNatural cosmeticsNatural environmentNatural resourcesNatureNetworkingNetworksOlder peopleOrganicOwnership structuresPeasant's farmingPermaculturePhilanthropyPopular educationPovertyProcessingProductionProfessionalPropertyPublic administrationPublic policiespublic worksPubsQuarryingRecreationRecyclingReduceRefugeeRegulationReligionRentalsRepairReproductive labourResearchResourcesRetailReuseRight to the CityRightsRefurbishingRenewable energyScienceSecuritySelf-managementSharing economySkillsSocialSocial and solidarity financesSocial careSocial clubSocial economySocial financeSocial InclusionSocial justiceSocial movementsocial securitySocial servicesSocial solidarity economySolidarity economySpiritualSportsStorageSustainable Development GoalsSystemsTechnical activitiesTechnologyTerritorial developmentTourismTradeTrade UnionTrainingTransition TownsTransportUnemployed peopleUpcycleUtilitiesVolunteeringWaste treatmentWaterWater cycleWellbeingWellnessWomenWorkYoung PeopleYouthOther/s

@@I-9 selecting other is not triggering a field as in registering organization" and registering activiteis why ?


@@ I- 10 ISSUE 5 Categorizar la iniciativa según las 3 dimensiones temática - retos - necesidades- momentos en el eventohttp://openfsm.net/projects/bcnet19/bcnet19-comisiones-input14/#F5

@this implies setting up some select item fields with the relevant categories challenges necessities moments same as @@A-7


Location mapping section
Where is the initiative located? *
@ asking for an adress o area ?? see @@I-6 aboveTO BE CHECKED
Are you interested in being contacted and collaborating with mapping projects participating in the forum? *
Yes
No
Longitude and Latitude of initiative
Existing digital map

Linked data published about your initiative URL
@@I-11 lift this up above location section set up the mulitple add field featureshow many URL possible?
it does not seem possible to mix text and url?how visible in the initiative display? @@M-7

@@I-12 ISSUE 7 urlDocumentación de la inicaitivagive links to documentation - to be edited after the event è-http://openfsm.net/projects/bcnet19/bcnet19-comisiones-input14/#F7

@@I-13 lift this up above location section this corresponds to issues @@I-3 and @@I-4

Promoting Organization SEE @@ i-3 above
@why singular - should be possible to select several organizations

Promoting Organization

@@IN FACT the wording is inappropirate

Existing Contact *@@I should be organizations

TestOrg2 pierre×@IBUT I CAN ONLY SELECT MY ORGANISATIONS

Existing Contact

TestOrg1×

Existing Contact

TestOrg1×

Existing Contact


@@I-14 these descriptive fields shoud be included BEFORE ALL THE LOCATION MAPPING FIELDS
@@ I-15 ISSUE 13 expectation of promoting group about how this initaitive will be strengthened and articulated in wsfte process
@@I -16 ISSUE14 how is the promoting group organized and how new organisation can join?

@@I-17 ISSUE 15 use of online forum link to the online space promoting this initiative if any

Existing Contact *
@why singular contact?
should be the same as for activity - several contact persons

@lift this up above location section

@@I

https://join.transformadora.org/?q=node/18/done&sid=111

Thank you, your submission has been received.

Go back to the form

now qfospa highjacking the test initiative pierre initiagve

https://join.transformadora.org/?q=node/16&cid2=111
https://join.transformadora.org/?q=my-initiatives

https://join.transformadora.org/?q=node/18/done&sid=116
@@I-18 see M-8 above an initiative from qfospa but i cannot edit it through the link - equivlante of the submission link for activities ??TO BE CHECKED

My Initiatives

Test inititiative Pierre

Edit

@@I-19 It seems the edit is leading to an empty intative file - at creation by pierre the edit was not workingTO BE CHECKED
@@when i return to user pierre the same test initaitgive pierre is visible as my initiatieve but again led to a void form