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Notes of the Meeting:Work meeting between the groups organizing the WSF 2018. 19th october

 balance of seminar  - mobilization -  communication  -  culture  -  infrastructure - solidarity economy  - methodology - finances

First round: balance of 17-18  international seminar

 

Eduardo Zanata (Filhos do mundo): we have been preparing this event for a long time. In operational matters we have been in contact with the university’s crew and we are going to produce a report. Somethings need to improve, for instance, the fair of solidary economy. We need to get to know better de structure of the university. With regards to communication, it ensured a very good frequency.

 

Cajá/ escola quilombo dos palmares:  The other fórum in Brazil happened in a very different and much more hostil environment than this one. I leave this one with a very good impression, that this will be much better. We need more unity, because the right e united against us. We have to convince our companions who doubt the Forum. We need to ensure the presence of the social movements, especially the ones less likely to participate, like the movements of traditional peoples.

 

Islandia costa/ vida brasil: Very good representativity of people who came here. It was very good because it was a work made essentially by volunteers. The relationship with the university was also very good. I have witnessed people complimenting the quality of the roundtables, even outside the university. People talking about the forum all over the city.

 

Liete União Brasileira de Mulheres/Comite Internacional do Forum: the event surpassed our expectations. The partnership with UFBA was excelente and i think the fórum in 2018 is going to be a success. I remember when I got to montreal nobody even knew the forum was happening. And here people are talking about it months before the actual forum. We should write a letter to thank the Dean of the University. Our objective should to always respect diversity of religion and of political vew.

 

Rita: I was surprised with people’s interest in the event, the willingness to debate politically and to bring their agenda’s to the forum. The relationship with UFBA is having a very important political role in the country because most managements of public universities are not in the left like the dean of ufba is.

 

Edson: The seminar has been very successful because it proved doubters wrong, by showing that the forum has conditions of happening. Our organization wants to help in the actions inside the states, in a local sphere. Important to take into consideration the process of the sacred..

 

Pierre/Caritas Internacional: the first thing is we feel here a very good “baiana” energy. Also, UFBA gives a structural safety very strong. The logistic help offered by UFBA was very impressive. Internationally, the occasion was not sufficiently used to integrate people from other countries in the GT’s. Now it is too late, but after each GT is formed, we should  reach people to see where they want to go. Methodology: most decisions will be taken alongside CI, both in the construction and in participation, to ensure that the event is actually international.

 

 

Sinistro: I would like to congratulate people involved in the organization. We have to value the opportunity to give visibility to struggles not commonly visible. I’m involved with the fight against incarceration. It is important to break the methodology to allow the periphery to participate.

 

Soraia/Reggae:  I was very pleased to witness the diversity in the seminar. I already felt like I was in the forum. It is important to involve the rastafari community and the reggae community. I will, thus, mobilize my people, my community to take part in the forum. WSF is a reality and it’s very well located here in bahia, due to its inherent diversity.

 

Claudio Mascarenha/ GERM: I want to congratulate half a dozen people who were  heroes in making this event happen. We are making a trade: we don’t own anything to the university. UFBA knows how strategic we are to the university. It needs, now more than ever, the support of the society.

 

Felipe/Brazil:  This was my first experience with forum, and the diversity with young people, teenagers, the elderly. It is important to leave theory, capitalism, socialism aside, when talking about economy. Because we need those issues to be accessible to the population.

 

Salete/CLACSO: Its been a long time since the northeast region has been involved in the construction of the forum. That’s why we have so much respect by the region as an actor. Even in Belém: we discussed back in 2009 the possibility of doing it in northeast, but the region itself supported belem as a host city, because it had to do with the agenda at the time. Now we discuss the humanities, so no other city could contemplate it better than Salvador. Important to remember the Letter of Principles. We need to take care of our activities so it is respectful of the principles elected for the Forum.

 

Thaíres/UNE:  This was the first space of the forum I was present. I want to reinforce that the forum is a space to report the coup we are living under. The forum is an important space to ensure youth’s participation in the forum.  It is impotant for us to bring the spirit of last years occupations to the construction of forum.

 

I liked the energy, and how we won the skepticals who doubted the possibility of the execution of the forum. I liked that the disagreements were put and respected. The energy, the astral, in this event will repercute in the forum. There were tensions of course, but its expected. In order for us to achieve a forum which is anticapitalist, antiracist, antisexist we need to deepen our relations among ourselves. I missed the indigenous peoples participation. In their case we have to go with them. I would like that the people participating in the round tables had actually proposed  practical

 

Leia:  I congratulate everybody involved. It really felt like a launch. We are very honored to participated.

 

Hilton/hip hop: There was a great deal of difficulty to bring the suburban communities to the forum and we have to bring them. I missed the participation of the youth in the roundtables and not just attending it. Because youth will be in our places lately. So I propose that the younger activists can also be present in the roundtables during the forum.

 

Neila/Movimento de Luta por Moradia (Fight for Habitation/Indigenista: I missed the indigenous peoples’ participation and we need to address this matter.

 

Thaís/GAJOP:  I bring something that disturbed me – the access to justice. We have a great problem with incarceration in the social educational system, with racial and social repercussions, and those topics cannot be left behind. I think that the event being in the university pushes people from the suburbs away, so I suggest bringin it to downtown.

 

Lela/ Dance Professor: We should have an articulation in the city during the summer until we reach a critical mass. I think the moment might be difficult for the students to attend, because they will be on vacation. Forum has a local challenge which is to reach people where they are. 

 

Milena/Brasil: Because of our know-how I offer myself to help in the topics related to the the fight against intolerance. I agree with Cinistro in the sense that the University is not our place and being there is a resistence for people who come from the suburbs. We have to take care of the accessibility because it was not good and generated embarrassing and shameful situations.  

 

Rogério/CUT: We don’t have to think alike, but we have to be aware of our role to ensure diversity. Forum is not just an event, this is a political construction. I think the partnership with the university is important and including the suburbs in the space of the university is our challenge. The university has been very supportive, with actual modular courses integrated with the spaces of the forum. Evaluating what happened here this week, I believe it was very positive. We need to be very objective in choosing how we build the forum from now on.

 

Amauri/RS: Reads motion lamenting the death of the Dean of UFSC.  Its going to be shared in the name of the International Council  and the Brazilian Collective of Organizations.

 

GT of Mobilization –

Liége/Brasil –

The group gathered and decided for a series of initiatives. Example: promotion on the Congress of UBM, by TB, in the Panamazonic Forum. It is important that others who are ahead to the initiatives send news of the mobilizations. On the webpage http://fsm2018.org/pb/ is the document of call for action so that everybody can print and make mobilizations in their  movements and organizations.  

Pierre: says its necessary to inform how the members of the CI and others can participate of the whatsapp group.

Liége – Answered that Edson Franco is the administrator and the other participants are: Liege, Flora, Leonardo, Rogério, Tiago, Rafael, Julia, Eduardo, Carlos Rodrigues, Nágila, Anne.  People Interested in participating should send an email to Edson or to infor@fsm2018.org ;

 

Tangi: There are segments that need differentiated strategies and we have to build them. For instance: elderly population, its possible for them to come to the event for free and we didn’t take advantage. Its important to position ourselves along side “Marcha da Maconha”, we need to reach Marcha das Vadias, through connectin the GT of Women and the GT of mobilization. We need to ensure the participation of LGBT movements. We have Lgbt groups inside the racial movements.

 

Damião: The collective from Bahia seems to have been dissolved in the Brazilian collective.  The meeting of the collective Bahia should be transformed in a plenary.  Some indigenous people who were going to participate and lgbt people were invited but couldn’t attend.  We need to talk more the matters of the suburbs. I agree that UNE needs to be present. Internationally: some segments still don’t have units and the tensions might generate difficulties ahead. We are ensuring the preparatory event for the Migration Forum inside the WSF 2018.  There will be a dialogue with FAMA. We had a huge effort to mobilize Africa, mocaçambique, coni sul and Europa.

 

Carminda/Peru:  I was involved in 2016 WSF. Congratulations by the event. We are invested in helping to divulge the WSF 2018, along with the Communication Team. If you want to work closely with us we are open to that and also to exchange experiences regarding the execution of the event. We are going to Peoples Forum in Argentina and we will be speaking about WSF there.  In our collective we had a very important GT of “harboring”  that is very important to integrate people.

 

Lincoln:  Many people talked about the difficulty to integrate traditional people in the event. There were the regional meetings and national one during Dilma’s government. But after the coup there was a demobilization of the groups. I volunteer to serve as communication channel, especially the ones who are not present in a national level and have a more local expression.

 

Gilberto/Brazil:  regarding communication and mobilization, all institutions in the forum have the duty to do that. The other thing is to comprehend the GT just as an incentive, not as an executor of the activities. Each group must enroll their own activities. A proposal: I reviewed  somethings related to the Forum and I realized something. We should make a homage to the Kenyan activist recently deceased and who died complimenting the Forum. We should have moments with victims testimonials, because they are concrete examples and generate impact.

 

Debora: It is important to realize that the GT of Mobilization is merely a coordinator, but each one of us has to be a mobilizer.  We have been using events in local levels to call people to participate in the WSF.

 

Leo: Talking about spaces as collectives, one of the de emblematic figures of the wsf, François … There is an structural matter: in Europe we are putting together thematic assemblies  which have been used as a mobilization tool for Forum here. Forum could be a politically important space to generate a public dialogue between government, critical chavistas and moderated opposition in Venezuela, and also to generate a dialogue about Siria.

 

Pierre: all those ideas can be self-organized.    

 

Luta antinuclear: We should make an effort to bring to WSF the NGO that won the Nobel Peace Prize. It has a huge symbolic impact.

 

Inside the mobilization, we should have a person in charge of contacting those key people. Chico Buarque, for instance. We mobilized yesterday in the meeting of Deans and we are preparing to send invitations to all Universities.

 

GT COMMUNICATION:

 

Rita/ Brazil: Our work group started collectively and I was invited to bring the experience of other forums and other GT’s, as well as other movements of communication like the Free Media World Forum, which was born from WSF. We defined the strategies to be used at WSF. We decided not to make any communications action without passing it through this space and that is not devoted to the construction of WSF. Some independent initiatives: the webradio group and the technology group. Those initiatives generate microorganizations that are later shared. We thought it was strategic to start communication work through oral communication. We have to transform those actions in materials for media, website, social networks, etc. Another strategy is focused on the website that will be developed and no make it possible to subscribe and pay the fees online. There are discussions about new proposals that came up during the seminar, such as interactive online spaces.

Communications group needs to be very connected to the other groups. We need to identify how to establish dialogues with specific segments that need more investment for enganging. Its importante for mobilization GT and Communications GT work together in that front.

We also need to help the GT’s so that conditions and criteria are created for those who want to take part in the GT’s work.

One of the criteria we have: the formation of the GT  needs to be involved in responsibility by the group. It is the group that needs to ensure that those actions is actually accomplished.  This is a calling to whoever wants to come. But who wants to propose good ideas needs to be prepare to make it happen.

Our goal is to make a work of mobilization in this area, so we need to dialogue with the free media sectors.

We are also investigating how to make space for us along side more progressive publications.

 

Dina Lopes: we made the first channel of citizenship, who has a team dedicated to the WSF. Channel of citizenship and WSF have a recording studio at Barra that is at disposal to record material. We already have journalist and structures, we only need  editors. We will be making a seminar regarding, community communication; Tv KIRIMURE  is fully available and whoever wants to help is welcome. The girls TV KIRIMURE are helping  Channel 10.2. http://tvk.

 

Fatima: During forum we will have  boat with women in charge of a radio.  I’m also thinking about a container in the subuerbs so we can make a session of community communication. I would also like to make a workshop of video for cellphone with my phones. And a Law Professor will talk about Image Law. About Carnival: Bahia’s carnival in tv is a lie. The popular parties are extremely political, we could use the Bonfim Fest and Iemanjá’s fest. In carnival: the exit of Ilê. In carnival we want to promote political action.

 

Chico Tiburcio: More important than executing the forum is ensuring that it has impact in brazil and worldwide. For that, communication has a central role. Proposals: !1) every institution has the responsibility to have a structure of communication dedicated to the WSF. We are producing content. We have a webradio show and social networks 24h available.  And now parts of the shows will be translated in English and French.

Carta capital and other media: we were able to call CC’s attention for the WSF. This suggestions was given to Lula. We also suggested that boaventura wrote an article, which is gaining great repercussion.

I would also like to compliment what she said about to carnival! Let’s use a “bloco de carnival” to sell WSF and to

 

Z:

We participated in an event with community radio. In the suburbs we have “coletivo cutucar”. We have a formation in audiovisual techniques for the youth.

We are also in talks with the academic community at ufba,  but they also have difficulties

Also the journalist from The Guardian from Portugal.

 

Cinistro: In order to make it viral we all need to like the page, and share. To increase the access and the reach. Accessibility is also very fragile.  We need transmission in libras. We have discussed the need to focus on youth and on the suburbs and we need to decide how to do it.

I believe people have to see themselves in the material produced by the forum. It needs to be more interactive, funnier, specially focused on suburban youth.

 

Felipe: I haven’t yet seen the publication, but I also think we need more music, more creativity and things that pop out. We can integrate the programation of the WSF in the web with the entities and organizations.

 

Eneas/Movimento nacional de DH: We have to focus on the spaces where the WSF still is not.  Methodology should be central, especially for communication, because many networks that are not part of the forum will also mobilize themselves because of it. So the sooner we have this figured out the better. For instance, there’s a event we are promoting

Pierre/ Caritas internacional: communicate that caritas brasileira will join the GT  of communication. About the extension dynamic, if someone is interested we have some frequent questions that I can distribute. Lucas and Joseanair can come to Salvador no auxiliate in this process.  It is a proposal of a group that can be involved with the communications group during WSF. This way, people all over the world can be reenergized by the remote contact with the report.

 

Ana Paula De La ordem:  We have a gt with at least 48 group, but less than 10 people effectively help. We have structural problems, lack of devices. Its easy to criticize, but we need people to actually do the work they want to see. Communication is not only facebook but also orally.

 

Amauri: regarding the beginning of the subscriptions: participants with the payment of the fee in November 1^st  and in November 15^th the activities.

 

GT DE CULTURA:

 

Ametista: the Culture GT has the perspective of transcending the forum. We want to become an international movement of artists.  We already have representatives of some states, we had opportunities to meet people. We are asking to add only the mediators of each locality in the group, so that things don’t become hard to manage. The “Cortejo Cultural” initiative: every wsf BEGINS with a march, in which we want to create the cortejo cultural, similarly to a parade by a samba schools. We want to elaborate a chronogram and a pool to involve a lot o people in the process. Workshops: for example, production of turbants, we are going to produced customized pieces.  Workshop  of spoken poetry, magic, and illusionism. “Brincar de cenas”:  small interventions all through the cities. Free stage: promotion of the programation and exposition of arts. Recital of poetry and music: march 14 is national day o poetry. March from pIedade square until castro alves square. We provide sponsors and the make the cake. Two local poets will organize this initiative. Resistance culture: suggestion by Jussara Koni regarding peace in the world. Carlos Tablada: Cuban culture. Expostion of culture and resistence. Sarau do Jaca, Sarau da Onça. Meeting with communities.  We have the support of 23 tribes for the WSF. Meeting with cultural categories.  Also a closing Ball.

 

Gina: The closing ball would be a Resistance Ball. Culture is everything. Considering that the students will be on vacation, we should invite the students not only to attend but to make interventions and activities and to propose their demands.

 

Cinistro:  The construction has to contemplate multiple cultures. We have to bring the local actors, the youth, the local movements from the suburbs. We have to contemplate latin music and culture “latinidades”, rap and hip-hop. We have to take advantage of those guests to allow us to contact those communities. We are in one of the richest places in the world in therms of culture and that cannot be wasted.

 

Rita:  Culture is also an amount of activities self managed. So we need to define what are the criteria for groups to submit activities and which conditions we are going to offer: stages,  public spaces, tents, sound, etc. The most important are those criteria  so that the groups can start to subscribe. The way you described, might give the impression that the GT will be executing the activities.

 

Salete: I am very happy that people are interested in promoting culture in the forum. But who has already been in the GT of Culture in other WSF needs to be brought back and we need to use the politics of culture already consolidated by the forum. The GT needs to ensure that the Forum’s policy of culture is respected.

 

Jussara/cebrapaz : Rita and Salete brought strategic question. International movements, the fight of the peoples, this is the context in which we have to situate the cultural activity. We have to use it to forge unity. Its not only Brazilian culture. We will hsve and an enormous diversity of culture that will be strategic for us. The experience of the “Pontos de Cultura” gives me the certainty that we need to do it in the forum. I remembered gil: lets but the finger in the do-in antropológico.

 

Fátima: I miss the articulation with the existing forums regarding culture. They should be brought to the inside of the GT’s and also the university. We could provoke  a meeting of “pontos de cultura”.

 

Debora: We would like to make an event in homage of the women who help to build the World Social Forum, and we would like to make it in cooperation with culture GT and mobilization GT. We would like to do it in the 14^th at night at UFBA. The activity will be subscribed by the website.

 

…: I am part of the community forum to fight violence.  We wanto to integrate it in WSF. Since the black conscience day is important in brazil, so I believe this day should be a day to present WSF for society. The idea e promoting events mobilizing people in the communities.

 

Zanata: the network of pontos de cultura e already promoting WSF. All the pontos de cultura need from us an invitation letter. The fact the university is empty during march is strategic for us because we need the spaces empty. Also march is strategic in terms of public investments.

 

Gilberto: it is important to remember that the activities are self managed and that more than performances we have to ensure the existence of debates of culture policies.

 

Thaíres UNE: I am going to ask CUCA (an entity of communication and

 

Rose: Addresses the lack of debate about the cultural policies. The GT cannot just do the cultural programmation of the forum. 

 

Leo/ Austria: It is not clear to me which is the cultural policy of the culture GT. The self managed activities are discriminatory. Many artists won’t be able to finance their participation. And it would be interesting to create a selection of the ones who are going to be somehow financed by us.

 

Carminda: it is very important to specify before hands what artists will need. Horizontality has to be also taken care of. Everybody needs to be able to present activities. The opening event is also very important. In montreal it was a magnificent moment. It is also very important what you’re doing by using culture as a form of mobilization.

 

Referrals:

 

Amauri: artists will participate through subscription forms on the website. We should make very clear what we will offer and what artists will have to provide.

 

GT OF INFRASTRUCTURE:

 

Gilberto: The transversality of infrastructure is very important. We need more people from other places and not just bahia in the infrastructure gt. We are coming up with the spaces that will be available to us and we want to socialize it virtually. I agree with pierre that all GTS must be open to the world. We need infrastructure from the moment people arrive at the airport, health care, and at the march. Structure to host people: camp for indigenous people, fight for land, youth, etc. We are checking the best spaces and transport to the university. Whoever may contribute we will take that list to send and receive those contributions.

 

Tanja: Is there the possibility to organize solidary hosting?

 

Gilberto: yes.

Tanja: tickets bought in collective purchases by cooperatives, that make it cheaper. There is an agency that makes those types of purchases. Fonsampo.

 

Debora:  There will be a congress at UFBA that will give us a better view of what is going to be actually possible to make with the structure that UFBA actually has to offer. This GT needs help, not only opinions, but actually hardwork.

 

Pierre:  Infrastructure will also count with caritas’ participation. Internet wil have a very important role for the dynamic of extension.  Possibly a cable in each room to ensure streaming. We need to clear how the volunteers participation will work. We also need infrastructure for the “Ágora of initiatives”, because it requires a lot of space.

 

Fernando:  I came up with some places where we can host people. Catholic University and UNEB have always been partners of social movements. So I volunteer to talk to those institutions.

 

Rose: the proximity of physical space is important because in WSF 2015 many problems regarding distance. Debora Nunes has experience with calling volunteers;

 

Debora nunes: we should take advantage of an event happening the the city park where many young people who already volunteer will appear.

 

 

GT SOLIDARY ECONOMY:

 

Debora: our gt is finally growing but still has been facing problems regarding physical presence.  We have drafted a initial landscape. We have been gathering every 15 days, on Mondays mornings. We want to dispute in the WSF the products and services: the bags, the food, the hosting, the currency, etc. We don’t want to be the segregated space of solidary economy in the forum, we want to be the economy of the forum.

Solidary Hosting: the camping network wants to take a part of the forum to the peninsula. We realized that it is possible that services spread around the city to offer services of hosting. We are collecting information about prices and possibilities. That is not for free but for fair prices. Although we are also trying to come up with free hosting. We can also articulate with p

 

In each one of the spaces with WSF activities we will have an exposition of products of solidary economy.

I would also like to have food court of experiences: food service using products of solidary economy. Consume as much as possible the products of family agriculture.

 

Solidary finances: will be coordinated by CAMP and CARITAS. A percentage of the subscritions money, will be converted in social currency to use in the forum.

 

Marcelo:

The political dispute:  we want to discuss the possibility of another model of economy along side 

 

Fabrício:  We are discussing the production of souvenir that can generate the commercialization of products related to solidary economy.

 

Felipe: We should check the infrastructure regarding the trash.

 

Sergio/RS: we came up with other ideas – we should capture more ideas and experiences from other states.  We should make an specific link for the subscriptions related to solidary economy.

 

Tangi: Congratulates and gives the contacts of people interested. Also the traditional peoples and indigenous people will have to be differentiated because of their practices.

 

SIDNEY/Aracaju: We have to advance to make the opposition of the traditional economy. We should contact the departments of economy and agronomy and propose debates with the students from these courses so we can combat the misleading view that we want to go back to barter.

 

Lela/UFBA:  The problems with the internet in the campus can be reduced because the university will be empty. We could use student residency.

 

…: The space should be focused on exposing that another economy is possible, in a sense that solidary economy doesn’t have to be disconnected to the fight against democratization of economy. What about the state collectives?

 

Referrals: There will be a subscription forms, for people to enroll their projects.

 

Debora: We are trying the make remote participation available through skype.

 

GT OF METHODOLOGY

 

Damião: What WSF do we want: a text was elaborated through discussions.

 

Convergences processes:  how to articulate the self managed activities.

Two eventos: Ágora of initiatives (a GT needs creation with participation of people from facilitation group) and  the Assembly of the Fighting Movements (it’s a convergence of convergences through a dynamic that doesn’t end with WSF 2018. Gt already created)

 

Proposal: to try to identify the 20 more important movements in world in the past year and ensure their participation in WSF.

 

About the axes: they need to be defined so that subscriptions can start. Axes should be treated through one keyword, a motto, and a bunch of keywords to which people can relate. Some people volunteered such as Ramuda, Carminda, etc.

 

Each day could focus in one of the words in the motto: resitance, creation  and transformation.

Women’s assembly should happen solely so that all women can participate.

 

Leonardo: How to exposed the production of the forum in the culmination ceremonies. This is not clear yet.  Forum should transform entities.

 

 

Lela: all the self managed activities must be aware of the letter of principles, so that the spirit of unity does not limit itself to the moment of WSF 2018.

 

Pierre: Caritas will join in the GT of methodology. Its possible to make other people participate remotely other people in the meetings. We should also make an online document where to put the reports of the meetings.  Suggests making the women’s assembly in the beginning, after the march. Agora of Initiatives can help to give visibility to the production of the forum. It is important to prepare for the work that comes after the forum, the documentation of the forum and the self documentation of the activities.

 

…: Its not good for the women’s forum after the march, because everybody will be tired. The assembly of the fighting movements is different from the assembly of convergence. We need to be very careful with having a group of methodology in a national and another in local level. Its important to integrate.

 

Debora Nunes: I don’t want to talk about methodology in the forum. For me is interested in the process of construction. A meeting of an entire day is impossible. More than 50 minutes is impossible. The meetings have to made in GT’s always and the meeting or coordination only with representatives. 2 hours tops.

 

Felipe: About the march, starting with it might generate attention just for the march and retrieve it from what will be constructed during the WSF 2018.

 

…: Fragmentation is a problem because keep the different groups from  having a notion of the whole of the event. The self management of the groups and activities cannot distance them from the principles and goals of the forum established in the letter of principles.

 

Fatima: Suggests going to the prisons of Salvador, taking advantage of the presence of the anti-encarceration movement in the WSF.

 

Tangi: The participation of children and check with government if students from public schools will be able to participate. We have the Dendê March,  and we could think an activity along with WSF. We should check activities from the UFBA courses that are connected to the axes.

 

Leo Gabriel/Austria: I agree that the assembly of convergence is different from the assembly of fighting movements. The first one is a sum of what was discussed and done in the forum and the other the sum of what has been happening the fights and struggles around the world.

 

Amauri: The fact that we don’t choose  one true position about topics amongst all the opinions given, but instead allow the freedom for everybody to try their view and prove it correct, is precisely the methodological innovation brought by WSF.

 

FINANCES GT:

 

Amauri: We put together a project of 9 million. A lot of it wont be used by the forum but it is structure offered but the university and the government of Bahia. The time and people spent by the organizations is also counted in the budget.

The central question is: The price of the inscriptions.  If the inscriptions of activities will have fees and if we differentiate the fees according to north or south origin.

 

Leo: we should separate north and south but also Brazilians who can and who cant. Suburbans can’t pay. So we should have 3 or 4 different fees.

 

Miege: Inscription by entity, which allow a certain quantity of participants. We should think about this possibility.

 

Leo: People who don’t have means to pay, should pay at least symbolically.

Carminda: We didn’t have differentiation by country, but we had solidary prices, for students, people who can’t contribute.

 

…: Based on the experience in Tunis, I foresee some possible problems. The proportions in Salvador are bigger. Not only people from outside, but people from the countryside of the state will come.

 

Fernando:  A minimum fee should exist for everybody. Kellogs and Ford Foundation could participate financing the forum.

 

CUT: The entities that will need translation during the forum, will pay extra? This is something that needs to be discussed. I don’t think that we can use the same price for everybody nor can we leave it for free for everybody. We should make a financial projection based on an estimation of costs.

 

 Tangi: we should allow the use of the statute of children and of the elderly so we have half of the fee for students and for the elderly from any countries. Regarding the itinerant people we should evaluate the possibility of contribution in the moment they arrive. Also only after the infrastructure we will be able to decide on the possibility of charging the inscription of self managed activities and solidary economy initiatives.

 

Leo Gabriel:  Suggests a partnership with Portuguese government to use tap as a channel for people to come from Lisbon to Salvador.

 

Milena: Its important for the people and organizations responsible by the groups with specificities, that they check the availability to provide resources.

 

Pierre;  The idea of organizations buying spots in advance is a good way to generate soon a lot of income.

 

Marcelo: we should think about enlarging a system of affirmative actions by regions. For example, Africa could pay a different fee.

 

Leo: We should estimulate people who can afford it to pay for other people’s fees, especially If this is done with transparency and you know who is being benefited by the money.

 

Sergio:  Maybe the donation can be rewarded with the T-shirt.