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Querid@s del grupo de trabajo # 2,

 Hoy finalmente me di el tiempo para llenar el cuestionario y realmente renuncie, luego de hacer el esfuerzo de seguir las preguntas. Creo que el primer esfuerzo, hecho por Sergio,, estaba mas claro, con las clarificaciones posteriores que hizo a los diversos comentarios recibidos. El actual formato creo que no solo es muy complicado y largo, sino también creo que es conductista. Hay  además preguntas en las que no puedo opinar sino tenemos previamente  una discusión o reflexión colectiva.

Creo que tenemos que buscar una forma más simple y menos rígida de ir construyendo opinión.   Quisiera saber si es que se recibido respuestas o más opiniones. Si no, es momento de hacer una propuesta más ágil que nos permita llegar al siguiente CI con un intercambio de ideas que permitan una mejor discusión y decisión.

 

    

Dear friends  of the Working Group # 2,

  Today I finally found time to complete the questionnaire but I decided not to do it, after making the effort to follow the questions and the possible answers. ?). I think the first effort made ​​by Sergio, was lighter, with the subsequent clarifications made ​​to the various comments received. I think that the actual version not only is very complicated and long, but I think it is behavioral (conductist. There are also questions that will be important to answer after having previously a discussion or collective reflection.

I think we have to look for a simpler and less rigid way for building opinion. I wonder if you have received more answers to the questionnaire. If not, it's time to make a more streamlined approach that allows us to get to the next IC with an exchange of ideas for a better discussion and decision.



2013/6/29 Francine Mestrum <mestrum@skynet.be>

Thank you very much Shawn.

Your comments are very relevant and useful and surely will have to be taken into account when finalizing the questionnaire.

In the meantime it would be good to have also other members opinion, so I would like to ask members to also give their opinion on this specific point.

Does the presentation of the questionnaire stimulate you to answer the questions?

 

Shawn fait la Remarque comme quoi la presentation du questionnaire n’est pas vraiment stimulant, trop peu Claire et n’invite pas à répondre auw questions.

Cette remarque importante devra être prise en compte au moment où le questionnaire sera finalisé. Entretemps, nous aimerions vous inviter à aussi vous exprimer sur cette question. Etes-vous d’accord ou non?

 

 

Shawn nos dice que la presentacion del cuestionario no es realmente estimulante, no invita a contestar a las preguntas. Es un comentario muy util y pertinente que tendremos que tomar en cuenta al momento de finalizar el cuestionario.

Mientras tanto, les invitamos a pronunciarse tambièn sobre esta cuestion. Estan de acuerdo o no?

 

Muchas gracias por su atencion

Many thanks/ Merci beaucoup.

 

Van: Shawn Carrié [mailto:shawn@occupywallst.org]
Verzonden: 29 June 2013 00:48
Aan: cifutur-consultations@lists.openfsm.net
Onderwerp: [G2 - CI futur Consult Carto Eval Strategy Synth] Re: [IC-G2] questionnaire réform CI/cuestionario reforma CI/ questionnaire IC reform

 

I'm glad to see something is moving on this topic. I imagine that creating this survey took a lot of careful thought and work, and I thank those who worked on it.

 

However, I am going to be very critical – not for political or ideological reasons, but simply for objective, empirical reasons which I hope will be taken into account and implemented in order to strengthen this phase of the work and move us forward. I will make two points:

 

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• There are many critical flaws with the survey, from a data architecture standpoint, and from a design and user experience standpoint. 

 

               • The survey as it stands now uses some very poor data practices, such as asking multiple questions in a single field.

                    (for example, question 1B asks for Name, Email, Skype, and Telephone.)

          • This will make it very difficult to make any sort of statistical evaluation of the data because it is not segregated and machine-readable. 

          • This can be remedied by separating each discrete data point into its own field, but there are many problems with the architecture of this survey.

           In short, a Data Analyst is badly needed.

 

• The design & layout of the survey is working against the content within it.

 

               • The layout of the questions is not visually conducive to ease of reading and understanding the prompts.

          • The questions themselves are not bad, but the poor visual presentation of the text makes the survey confusing and tedious.

          • The text is excessively cluttered and not formatted in a way that makes it easy to parse, or visually pleasing.

                    - For example, take a look at the way I've formatted this email - using larger text, indenting, and bullet point, this makes the outline of my

                    points easier to read and understand. 

          In short, a Design Editor is badly needed. 

 

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I can already predict that others may be encountering similar issues with the survey, and I'm certain that those evaluating the results will have a very difficult time analyzing the results and effectively reporting on them. 

 

This issue had already come up when the attendance data was published to this list, and I personally took the initiative to clean up and re-publish a report on IC organization's attendance, which no one replied to or acknowledged. I have offered, and continue to offer my services to this group.

 

In summary, I observe that there is a vast need for improvement in the way that the WSF and IC are utilizing technological resources to support its work.

This was the main position that I pushed in the G2 meeting in Tunis, and I firmly retain this position. I do look forward to working within this process, and hope that this sincere concern will be acknowledged and addressed.

 

 

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Shawn Carrié

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On Friday, June 28, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Francine Mestrum wrote:

 

 

Dear members of working group 2,

Chers membres du groupe de travail n° 2

Estimados miembros del grupo de trabajo 2

 

You will find herewith (see url above) a questionnaire concerning the restructuring of the WSF/IC. It has been prepared by Sergio, Pierre and Francine. You may remember this was decided in Tunis.

 

This is a test, before sending the questionnaire to all IC members and to others. We would like to ask you to seriously answer it and give us your evaluation. Since there are still many questions about it, there may be a need to further amend it.

 

This is a very important step in the preparation process of the IC restructuring. We therefore hope to receive your answer as soon as possible. We thank you very warmly in advance.

 

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Vous trouverez ci-joint (voir url ci-dessus) un questionnaire sur la restructuration du FSM/CI. Il a été préparé par Sergio, Pierre et Francine. Vous vous rappellerez sans doute qu'il s'agit d'une décision prise à Tunis.

 

Ceci est un test, avant d'envoyer le questionnaire à tous les membres du CI et à d'autres. Nous aimerions vous demander de bien vouloir y répondre et de nous donner votre évaluation. Nous avons encore beaucoup de doutes et il sera peut-être nécessaire d'amender le questionnaire.

 

Ceci est une étape importante dans le processus de préparation de la restructuration du CI. Nous espérons dès lors de recevoir votre réponse dans les plus brefs délais. Nous vous en remercions très chaleureusement.

 

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En anexo (url abajo) encontraran un cuestionario sobre la nueva estructura del FSM/CI. Fue preparado por Sergio, Pierre y Francine. Asi lo decidimos en Tunez.

 

Eso es un 'test', antes de mandar el cuestionario a todos los miembrois del CI y a otros. Por favor, traten de responder a las cuestiones y de darnos su evaluacion. Nosotros tenemos algunas dudas y podria ser necesario de enmendar el cuestionario.

 

Eso es una etapa importante en el proceso de la reforma del FSM/CI. Por lo tanto, esperamos recibir sus respuestas lo mas antes posible. Muchisimas gracias de antemano.

 

 

 

 

 

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