• Tunis Group 2 - CI futur Consult & +

  • Aspects of caringness

    from chris on Dec 02, 2013 12:23 AM
    Dear friends
    
    The list of 106 possible 'aspects of IC caringness' appears daunting, but I am familiar with iterative techniques that reduce the complexity, and highlight priorities within such a list.  No doubt others have similar experience ...
    
    To commence a process, I am content with the following seven aspects.
    3  Group to discuss criteria for getting in a "consensus decision perimeter "  eg IC  ( 2004)
    
    8 maintain a space for exchange on practices between convergence assemblies organizers.  e.g. The Asian Discussion Forum addresses this need
    
    9 sustain & design websites to give views and infos such as openfsm.net ( from 2008).  Facebook pages and Wordpress blogs are also being used, but pose collective memory challenges
    
    20 sustain working group for systematization  of solidarity economy around an sf event.  In preparation for the era when wsf can expand beyond post- globalisation, anti- corporate campaigns
    
    34 ad hoc groups to tackle legitimately tricky issues (presence of head of state,   compatibility of some organizations ideology with wsf charter)
    
    40 group  to organize shared communication by alternative media
    
    50 stimulate and organize debates on key contentious issues mapped  in order to accelerate debate
    
    There are four aspects among the 106 that do not sit comfortably with my view of a caring body; mostly due to my ignorance that can be resolved in discussion with likeminded others.
    
    6 comcom seminar in florence 2007.  No reference provided, and I don't understand Florence's significance
    
    12 develop trans-event communication  between organizers and participants to stay connected.  I feel this is an Event Organiser task; if necessary, a responsibility can be placed on event organisers to follow-up with IC, say 3 months after collating final report
     
    16 group on balancing in a wsf event; organizing  overall openspace services and thematic  space initiatives. I feel this is an Event Organiser task; if necessary, a responsibility can be placed on event organisers to liaise with IC at key preparation milestones
    
    84 group to assess the option of collective participation  vs indiviudal participation.  This discussion is occuring elsewhere within civil society too, and may arrive at similar/different assessments.  I support collective participation, but would like to hear the individual participation argument.
    
    I wish to convey sustenance to the G2 workgroup for your capacity to keep nourishing this project.  In solidarity
    
    chris
    
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  • RE: Aspects of caringness

    from mestrum on Dec 02, 2013 03:59 PM
    Dear Chris,
    Wondering what you are referring to with this 'caringness'...???
    Francine
    
    -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
    Van: chris williams [mailto:will0447@...] 
    Verzonden: 02 December 2013 01:24
    Aan: cifutur-consultations@...
    Onderwerp: [Tunis Group 2 - CI futur Consult & +] Aspects of caringness
    
    Dear friends
    
    The list of 106 possible 'aspects of IC caringness' appears daunting, but I am familiar with iterative techniques that reduce the complexity, and highlight priorities within such a list.  No doubt others have similar experience ...
    
    To commence a process, I am content with the following seven aspects.
    3  Group to discuss criteria for getting in a "consensus decision perimeter "  eg IC  ( 2004)
    
    8 maintain a space for exchange on practices between convergence assemblies organizers.  e.g. The Asian Discussion Forum addresses this need
    
    9 sustain & design websites to give views and infos such as openfsm.net ( from 2008).  Facebook pages and Wordpress blogs are also being used, but pose collective memory challenges
    
    20 sustain working group for systematization  of solidarity economy around an sf event.  In preparation for the era when wsf can expand beyond post- globalisation, anti- corporate campaigns
    
    34 ad hoc groups to tackle legitimately tricky issues (presence of head of state,   compatibility of some organizations ideology with wsf charter)
    
    40 group  to organize shared communication by alternative media
    
    50 stimulate and organize debates on key contentious issues mapped  in order to accelerate debate
    
    There are four aspects among the 106 that do not sit comfortably with my view of a caring body; mostly due to my ignorance that can be resolved in discussion with likeminded others.
    
    6 comcom seminar in florence 2007.  No reference provided, and I don't understand Florence's significance
    
    12 develop trans-event communication  between organizers and participants to stay connected.  I feel this is an Event Organiser task; if necessary, a responsibility can be placed on event organisers to follow-up with IC, say 3 months after collating final report
     
    16 group on balancing in a wsf event; organizing  overall openspace services and thematic  space initiatives. I feel this is an Event Organiser task; if necessary, a responsibility can be placed on event organisers to liaise with IC at key preparation milestones
    
    84 group to assess the option of collective participation  vs indiviudal participation.  This discussion is occuring elsewhere within civil society too, and may arrive at similar/different assessments.  I support collective participation, but would like to hear the individual participation argument.
    
    I wish to convey sustenance to the G2 workgroup for your capacity to keep nourishing this project.  In solidarity
    
    chris
    
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    • RE: List 106

      from chris on Dec 03, 2013 09:36 PM
      Dear Pierre and fellow G2 workers
      
      I appreciate Pierre's full-and-frank response to my 'aspects of caringness'
      with the List106 wiki.
      
      It is an opportunity for fellow G2 workers to also edit the wiki, both on the
      numbered items already commented, and the remaining List106 items which are
      also worthy of consideration/ comment.
      
      I have used Club of Rome methodologies to reduce complexities, and to manage
      multiple streams of simultaneous dialogue on multiple tasks; it can be done,
      here http://www.clubofrome.org/.
      
      In the meantime, I will set about full consideration of Pierre's thoughtful
      responses, to take the discussion forward on the topics that we have already
      found traction.  Please join us.
      
      chris
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      On Dec 02, 2013 03:59 PM, Francine Mestrum wrote:
      > Dear Chris,
      > Wondering what you are referring to with this 'caringness'...???
      > Francine
      > 
      > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
      > Van: chris williams [mailto:will0447@...] 
      > Verzonden: 02 December 2013 01:24
      > Aan: cifutur-consultations@...
      > Onderwerp: [Tunis Group 2 - CI futur Consult & +] Aspects of caringness
      > 
      > Dear friends
      > 
      > The list of 106 possible 'aspects of IC caringness' appears daunting, but I
      > am familiar with iterative techniques that reduce the complexity, and
      > highlight priorities within such a list.  No doubt others have similar
      > experience ...
      
      > To commence a process, I am content with the following seven aspects.
      > 3  Group to discuss criteria for getting in a "consensus decision perimeter
      > "  eg IC  ( 2004)
      
      > 8 maintain a space for exchange on practices between convergence assemblies
      > organizers.  e.g. The Asian Discussion Forum addresses this need
      
      > 9 sustain & design websites to give views and infos such as openfsm.net (
      > from 2008).  Facebook pages and Wordpress blogs are also being used, but
      > pose collective memory challenges
      
      > 20 sustain working group for systematization  of solidarity economy around
      > an sf event.  In preparation for the era when wsf can expand beyond post-
      > globalisation, anti- corporate campaigns
      
      > 34 ad hoc groups to tackle legitimately tricky issues (presence of head of
      > state,   compatibility of some organizations ideology with wsf charter)
      
      > 40 group  to organize shared communication by alternative media
      > 
      > 50 stimulate and organize debates on key contentious issues mapped  in order
      > to accelerate debate
      
      > There are four aspects among the 106 that do not sit comfortably with my
      > view of a caring body; mostly due to my ignorance that can be resolved in
      > discussion with likeminded others.
      
      > 6 comcom seminar in florence 2007.  No reference provided, and I don't
      > understand Florence's significance
      
      > 12 develop trans-event communication  between organizers and participants to
      > stay connected.  I feel this is an Event Organiser task; if necessary, a
      > responsibility can be placed on event organisers to follow-up with IC, say 3
      > months after collating final report
       
      > 16 group on balancing in a wsf event; organizing  overall openspace services
      > and thematic  space initiatives. I feel this is an Event Organiser task; if
      > necessary, a responsibility can be placed on event organisers to liaise with
      > IC at key preparation milestones
      
      > 84 group to assess the option of collective participation  vs indiviudal
      > participation.  This discussion is occuring elsewhere within civil society
      > too, and may arrive at similar/different assessments.  I support collective
      > participation, but would like to hear the individual participation
      > argument.
      
      I wish to convey sustenance to the G2 workgroup for your
      > capacity to keep nourishing this project.  In solidarity
      
      > chris
      > 
      
      
      
    • RE: Aspects of caringness

      from chris on Dec 02, 2013 09:31 PM
      Dear Francine
      
      There's a wiki for G2 titled 'cifuturG2 possible working groups to care about
      wsf process'.  The numbers I have cited are those in column C of the table at
      the bottom of the wiki.
      
      I saw the table's compiler to be grappling with 'caring about wsf'; when to
      institutionalise a rules-basis, and when to develop/highlight the intrinsic
      caring nature of those I have met via OpenFSM over the years.
      
      If experiencing trouble locating the wiki/table, let me know.
      Chris
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      On Dec 02, 2013 03:59 PM, Francine Mestrum wrote:
      > Dear Chris,
      > Wondering what you are referring to with this 'caringness'...???
      > Francine
      > 
      > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
      > Van: chris williams [mailto:will0447@...] 
      > Verzonden: 02 December 2013 01:24
      > Aan: cifutur-consultations@...
      > Onderwerp: [Tunis Group 2 - CI futur Consult & +] Aspects of caringness
      > 
      > Dear friends
      > 
      > The list of 106 possible 'aspects of IC caringness' appears daunting, but I
      > am familiar with iterative techniques that reduce the complexity, and
      > highlight priorities within such a list.  No doubt others have similar
      > experience ...
      
      > To commence a process, I am content with the following seven aspects.
      > 3  Group to discuss criteria for getting in a "consensus decision perimeter
      > "  eg IC  ( 2004)
      
      > 8 maintain a space for exchange on practices between convergence assemblies
      > organizers.  e.g. The Asian Discussion Forum addresses this need
      
      > 9 sustain & design websites to give views and infos such as openfsm.net (
      > from 2008).  Facebook pages and Wordpress blogs are also being used, but
      > pose collective memory challenges
      
      > 20 sustain working group for systematization  of solidarity economy around
      > an sf event.  In preparation for the era when wsf can expand beyond post-
      > globalisation, anti- corporate campaigns
      
      > 34 ad hoc groups to tackle legitimately tricky issues (presence of head of
      > state,   compatibility of some organizations ideology with wsf charter)
      
      > 40 group  to organize shared communication by alternative media
      > 
      > 50 stimulate and organize debates on key contentious issues mapped  in order
      > to accelerate debate
      
      > There are four aspects among the 106 that do not sit comfortably with my
      > view of a caring body; mostly due to my ignorance that can be resolved in
      > discussion with likeminded others.
      
      > 6 comcom seminar in florence 2007.  No reference provided, and I don't
      > understand Florence's significance
      
      > 12 develop trans-event communication  between organizers and participants to
      > stay connected.  I feel this is an Event Organiser task; if necessary, a
      > responsibility can be placed on event organisers to follow-up with IC, say 3
      > months after collating final report
       
      > 16 group on balancing in a wsf event; organizing  overall openspace services
      > and thematic  space initiatives. I feel this is an Event Organiser task; if
      > necessary, a responsibility can be placed on event organisers to liaise with
      > IC at key preparation milestones
      
      > 84 group to assess the option of collective participation  vs indiviudal
      > participation.  This discussion is occuring elsewhere within civil society
      > too, and may arrive at similar/different assessments.  I support collective
      > participation, but would like to hear the individual participation
      > argument.
      
      I wish to convey sustenance to the G2 workgroup for your
      > capacity to keep nourishing this project.  In solidarity
      
      > chris
      >