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comcom meeting parisreportinput 3
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see a proposal for comcom ic report
A Com Com se reuniu por um dia inteiro antes do início dos trabalhos do CI, com transmissão online e participação aberta.
http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/comcom-meeting-parisextension-video
Também houve transmissão online das reuniões do Conselho Internacional :
http://openfsm.net/projects/ic-extended/icextended-parisvideos
PROPOSAL FOR A COMCOM PARIS WORKING REPORT
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introduction 1: two part in the working report
outcome1: validating way to input about comcom working plan
outcome 2 : a first list of issues to be discsussed
working report - input parts 4
Support to wsf in arab world 6
Dimensions of action in comcom 7
Dakar communicaiton assembly10
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Structure of comcom working report
COMCOM REPORT DRAFT
Hello everyone in comcom
Here is a draft report proposal for our week in paris
It echoes the page here that contains links to the consensed outcomes put in blue
http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/comcom-meeting-pariswhatwedid
It is structured in two parts : a basic report with consensed outcome and a wider report - with inputs not explicitly consensed
The criteria proposed for a topic to be in "basic report" is to have been object of sustained discussion and with an explicit consensus
in green with points 1 and 2 is a proposed BASIC REPORT text for our week in paris.
on point 1 and 2 : we agreed on using a tuneup method and putting on our agenda a list of discussion items
method for the basic report ; we finalize a wording we see how to proceed concretely with them
Please check the TWO FORMAL OUTCOMES and express if you see more points that where object of focused discussion and explicit consensus.
In the case of our paris meeting the basic report is a minority part of the report , Indeed There was a lot of time dedicated to informal or side meetings but it seems no other points where object of explicit collective discussion and consensus.
The wider report is made with items that either
-may have not been object of focused collective discussion , can be inputs in a round of discussion ,appeared in our conversations or meetings, without further discussion
-or may have been discussed and not be object of consensus or
-or maybe report from bilateral discussion
-or maybe report of activites of some comcom project/initiative
-or maybe inputs in a mention of a personal declaration in plenary
etc
method for drafting the wider report
we can be combining items proposed by comcom participants in a common plan, collecting things that have been said, even if not discussed , and we mention authors of inputs (one or more persons ) to account for diversity and absence of focused discussion in paris
Working report - outcome1 : a consensed way to make inputs on working plan-
1/OUTCOME 1 of paris meeting- invitation to input in the tune up document extended to comcom participants
On may 24th we practiced and validated , a methodology whereby all participants in comcom can express their vision and mode of participation about comcom while reviwing our draft working plan ( the first step is not to update the document but to identify issues to be discussed)
see video of the meeting on afternoon 24 ( transcription in progress)
http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/comcom-meeting-parisextension-videos
On 25th meeting we extended an invitation to comcom participants to make written inputs before june 15th
based on draft working plan
http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/comcom-2011-12-working-plan-updating/version?version_id=6
under form of a document to download and edit ,and send
http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/comcom-meeting-preparation-sheets
Suggestion : participants on 24th discussion have a paper copy with their inputs on part A and just can edit and complete it and send it as joined document or and publish it in their personal space in openfsm , these copies will give concrete stimulus for other comcom participants
Note from Pierre / a translation of the working plan draft in Spanish is underway - time dedicated to “ Spanish revolution” has slowed down the work!
http://openfsm.net/projects/acampadas-y-fsm/project-home
working report outcome 2: a first list of items to be discussed
2/ OUTCOME 2 of paris meeting - FIRST DISCUSSION TOPICS AGREED after using tuneup method on part A of document
on 24th we( antonio dan jason mallory pepe pierre sonia ) reviewed part A1 to A8 and expressed our views by written and then shared them and indentified some topics to be discussed more in depth in the coming future
http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/comcom-meeting-parisdiscussionitems ( this is was was written on the paperboards sheets)
Note1: this list regarding items A1 to A8 is not final and mght be completed with inputs coming before june 15th
Note2 : we need to agree on how we can proceed to discuss these points, this was not commented : – it can be specialized mailing list by focus – or mail threads inside common list
regarding chat and audio meetings there has been very little discussion and no agreement on how to proceed in periodic meetings
Note3: discussions that started before the meeting such as dialogues 1 and 2 on policies and culture see documents J and K http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/comcom-meeting-some-refdocuments , will probably be continued with the new material gathered by the collection of inputs from other comcom members
Review of sfex intiative ( point 1-1 of document) during 25th meeting was limited and tune up method was not used :
(pierre) there was a quick round of open inputs on this issue without further elaboration. One practical observation: the FSM extended project is now being presented by its facilitators as a “ facilitation initiative” gathering people from various events of the wsf calendar past and future
(rita) 2b. A Comissão aprofundou o debate sobre a importância do projeto FSM Extendido, considerando necessário avançar nesses laboratórios para facilitar a participação à distância e intercâmbio entre eventos do FSM em regiões distantes entre si.
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working reports : inputs
WIDER REPORT - CONTRIBUTIONS OF COMCOM PARTICIPANTS
See paragraph on wider report on top of the document
Personal notes related to inputs made in formal or informal meeting during this week, or to personal declaration in ci plenary are welcome to be added as such (i-e inputs of comcom participants ) to the core report and are good material for further dialogue-
Numbering of items is random
Dakar evaluation
DAKAR EVALUATION in comcom(pierre) >> a avaliacao de dakar nao foi objeto de discussao aprofundizada durante nossos encontros . A sintesis esperada para é0 de marzo nao chegou pelo momento. O grupo avaliacao segue activo em comissao metodologia
(rita) 1d - A avaliação de Dakar foi objeto de vários relatos encaminhados à Com Com (colocar o link para os documentos) e também de manifestações durante a atividade aberta no CI proposta para esse fim, onde foram reforçados:
1d1 - A importância de interação entre a organização da comunicação local dos eventos e a organização da comunicação internacional, lembrando que em Dakar atividades de igual natureza (cobertura e difusão do evento) estiveram separadas tanto na preparação quanto no local
1d2 - A importância de comunicação prévia com a comunidade local, lembrando que em Dakar os estudantes se ressentiram da presença do FSM, por falta de informação e tb pq se viram obrigados a compartilhar recursos escassos, como espaço físico, água, energia elétrica, internet, etc
1d3 - A infraestrutura para a comunicação deve ser condição prévia para a realização de um evento, a não ser em locais de dificuldades extremas. Neste caso, as condições para a comunicação devem ser previamente detalhadas e conhecidas para que as debilidades sejam superadas ou compensadas com outros recursos. Em Dakar, uma melhor conexão de internet teria permitido maior difusão das atividades e visões de participantes do FSM, especialmente sua capacidade de superação das dificuldades logísticas conhecidas.
(comentario de Pierre) >> sempre se pode afirmar « necesidades » de criterios operativos como aqueles lembrada acima. Agora tendo vivenciado as situacoes concretas, se pode perguntar como e quando se pode actuar anticipadamente para evitar problemas. A resposta nao e simple.
Support to WSF in arab world
ABOUT SUPPORT TO WSF IN ARAB WORLD
(pierre) On 25th there was a mere round of inputs on social forum extended initaive and on SUPPORT TO WSF IN ARAB WORLD, without prior written expression of each participant and sustained discussion , no outcomes there –we had no time for more - see the link to those inputs here
http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/comcom-meeting-parismeeting25
see video of the meeting
http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/comcom-meeting-parisextension-videos
(rita) A Comissão dedicou parte de sua reunião no CI ao acompanhamento dos temas relacionados aos acontecimentos no mundo árabe e perspectivas de expansão mais acenturada do processo FSM para a região.
2a. A Comissão convidou para suas atividades um ativista tunisiano que trouxe depoimento sobre as ações não visíveis feitas pela internet, confirmando a importância do vínculo da comunicação do FSM com o universo de desenvolvedores de software e canais de comunicação livres de controle corporativo.
(pierre) >> thanks to whoever invited Aala !
2c. TUNÍSIA/CARAVANAS - Houve relato das atividades da Comissão de Comunicação em duas caravanas solidárias à Tunísia e Campo de refugiados na Líbia
2c1 - Na primeira, de 1 a 5 de Abril de 2011, foi feita proposta de comunicação compartilhada aos participantes, envolvendo a produção, troca e publicação conjunta dos conteúdos produzidos, que resultaram em mais de 10 reportagens, além de vídeos e fotos, gerando conteúdos divulgados em pelo menos 3 edições do boletim FSM. As tividades não foram transmitidas (não houve articulação do FSM Extendido) Os conteúdos estão reunidos no link http://www.ciranda.net/mot/tunisia
2c2- Na segunda,no final de Abril, não houve proposta de comunicação compartilhada,e não há textos sobre a caravana enviados à comissão, mas desta vez houve articulação do projeto FSM Extendido. O resultado foi a transmissão online dos debates realizados durante a missão, divulgada tb em redes sociais, através dos links http://www.ustream.tv/channel/csfstunis-4-2011 e http://openfsm.net/projects/maghreb-mashrek/video-csfstuniselargi
As duas experiências apontam para a incidência dos projetos comunicação da Com Com nas atividades do WSF, e devem servir de referência para futuras atividades que mereçam maior difusão
( Pierre) >> it is interesting to exchange about the mode of operation of comcom participants –facilitation initiatives or projects that are included in comcom working plan , act autonomously along general lines defined and approved in comcom plan .
In that concrete case of Tunisia, participants to “ciranda” decided to go to Tunisia when there was a IC visit , and produce material on that occasion and ,
participants in “ sfex initiative” prioritized working with local social forum organizers to enlarge and memorize their meeting in tunis two weeks later, as a stepping stone to creating an active team around extension issues in magrebmashrek social fourm process, and paris was the occasion to include one person from Tunisia and one from Egypt in that starting team . These two concrete actions can be commented inside comcom
http://openfsm.net/projects/maghreb-mashrek/tunis-avril-2011
2c. PALESTINA/NAKBA - Houve informe sobre a comunicação no caso da Nakba (15 de Maio)
(pierre) this looks like an information brought to attention of comcom participants, may be in relation with actions from people participating in ciranda project/initiative/entity
2ca - Foi feito um alerta quanto à intervenção do Facebook no processo de convocação da Nakba, uma vez que a corporação retirou do ar a página que chamava para essas celebrações com o título de III Intifada Palestina para o dia 15 de maio, que contava com cerca de 350 mil seguidores. Esse fato indica que é preciso ocupar os espaços existentes nas redes sociais (caso exemplar da Tunísia), mas não confundir espaço grátis com espaço livre, considerando que as redes sociais são espaços passíveis de controle e de difusão compulsória de propagandas corporativas
(comment from Pierre) >> this observations reminds us that investment in an autonomous wiki space such as openfsm with 465 spaces and 2300 registered users and more not registered but included in mailing lists is a mid term commitment.
Even if it is modest there is no currently an equivalent in the WSF universe. Among those spaces there are now on space used by comcom , one by ressource com, and now one by strategy com and one by meth com –– However we need to renew maintenance contract and there is no budget available for this at the moment
2cb - Houve mensagem de uma colaboradora da comunicação do FSM no Brasil, que foi detida junto com 3 brasileiros na fronteira da Jordânia com a Palestina, enquanto acompanhava as celebrações da Nakba e tentava visitar sua família na Palestina e manifestações de solidariedade
Dimensions of action in comcom
DIMENSIONS OF ACTION OF COMCOM
(text from pierre) informal discussion on 26th
on 26th at night there was a sustained informal exchange about the MODES OF OPERATION OF COMCOM : general view, but not consensus, being that comcom has both to promote importance of communication in ic and to stimulate good practices with event organizers -Jason voiced echo of this discussion in a verbal short presentation on 27th plenary
Suggestion : A short text can be drafted to reflect the views expressed there . it remains to be done (and this wording part of the working plan drafting which will come after discussing issues idenfied in 1y 2, /! )
Note : if we agree that comcom has a duty to “sensitize ic about communication” , even if with little chance of success -, then As comcom we need to discuss a series of issues to share a more common vision and vocabulary and feed some dialogues when views among us are significantly differing
we need to be actively dialoguing between us on some issues before /while going to outreach, and listing issues is precisely outcome 1 and 2
At the same time we agree that cooperating with event organizers in the frame of permanent focused initiative/project is a way to go concretely .
Our Practice here is offering us some material for elaboration : There is some differences to describe between comcom, and the projects/initiatives that it is fostering and promoting in its working plan , that increasingly have to manage to operate without significant wsf funding.
Here again, the review proposed in outcome 1 and 2 will help raise practical issues and refine vocabulary - A change proposed from “ comcom projecté to facilitation inititive linked to comcom “ is a significant one http://openfsm.net/projects/ic-methodology/wsf11-evalreco-stimulate-wsf-facilitation-initiatives
VIEWS ABOUT COMCOM
During the whole week There were informal progress such as a better understanding of how certain participants in comcom had DIFFERING VIEWS AND VOCABULARY about the same things ,and WHY some announced initiative ( languages, culture, ) had not taken ( yet? ) a VISIBLE OPERATIVE FORM INSIDE COMCOM - but this has not led yet to “expressable” outcomes
Suggestions : some of this discussion may be echoed in the inputs made by comcom participants answering invitation point 1 above, and other may surface in the discussion held according to agenda on point 2
( text from rita) apresentação ao ci on 27th
- A Comissão reportou ao CI a existência de duas dimensões em que atua.
(Pierre) the verbal short intervention in IC echo an informal discussion held in Italian restaurant
3a - Uma delas é de mobilização e intercâmbio, contribuindo para a participação de comunicadores, mídias alternativas e setores interessados/as na comunicação e para a compreensão de que se trata de uma área estratégica para o FSM e os movimentos, além de um direito a ser fortemente defendido em sua agenda. Para este objetivo, deve buscar dinamizar sua relação com as organizações integrantes do CI, para fortalecer esses intercâmbios
3b - A outra dimensão é operacional, em que a Comissao contribui para que o FSM mantenha plataformas e sites colaborativos e ofereça um modus operandi aos organizadores de eventos, para reunir coberturas de sites, radios, videos e outras mídias, com base no conceito de comunicação compartilhada. A falta de recursos próprios é considerada um sério impecilho para adequada execução das tarefas, o que leva a Comissão de Comunicação a buscar recursos
( comment from Pierre) during the meeting a proposal was made to adjust presentation of comcom projects into “facilitation intiatives for WSF focused on some scopes and with orientation from comcom – this is one topic where further discussion was agreed in point
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Intercommission activity
ABOUT INTERCOMISSION
Intercommission was discussed , and comcom participants voiced their concern in plenary on 25th about the fact that intercommission was put in the evening of 26th and not in the real meeting time, as a matter of fact it was immediately superseded by a call about a rio + 2 info meeting done by Brazilians
Finally comcom participants still present on 27th afternoon decided to attend methodology commission meeting and got involved in some working groups there
Language action line in comcom
LANGUAGE ACTION LINE IN COMCOM
1b - Foi acentuada a importância do apoio de uma rede tradutores para as atividades da Com Com. Atividades conjuntas entre Babels e Escritório, apoio da Babels ao grupo de tradutores da Ciranda são exemplos positivos.
(pierre) It was suggested to babels to start a permanent “facilitation initiative” followed by comcom around interpretation issues In social forum event, an initiative where other entities than babels would be welcome– this means building a mid term collective frame independent of babels, with wiki mailing list etc.. for fostering cooperation and interchange around issues faced by any social forum event regarding interpretation.
This might somehow different than just having a succession of “ babel projects” addressing one event , the goal being to have is a continuity group fostering exchanges between interpretation projects in babels and elsewhere and between people in organizing committees involved in those issues
Also based on this some other issues can be added such as making Arabic a visible language in some websites etc…
Follow up on Dakar communication assembly
RELATIONSHIP WITH DAKAR COMMUNICATION ASSEMBLY
(rita) 1c - Houve informe do processo de construção do Fórum Mundial de Midia Livre, resultante da Assembléia de Comunicação no FSM de Dakar, com eventos programados para o Rio de Janeiro (no período do Rio+20) e para o Marrocos. Também existe possibilidade de um evento inicial em Porto Alegre. A Com Com se dispoe a acolher e difundir resultados, uma vez que o evento é independente da Comissão, porém vinculado ao processo FSM e com participação de suas organizações.
(pierre) aqui precisa recordar que existe um espaço internet em openfsm.net proposto para visibilizar a dinamica da assambleia post dakar articulando uma lista criada em google com o wiki de openfsm e lista de grupos de trabalho especializados se tiver. Nao chegamos a intercambiar nesse asunto, mais seria bom se apropiar desse
Pergunts abertas sao : que se faz para conferir o nivel de participaçao de entidades nao brasileiras que participaram em dakar ? Até agora o nivel de atividades na lista criada apos dakar e zero. A iniciativa de criaçao tecnica de um wiki para a
Ressources
(rita) 4) RECURSOS A MOBILIZAR
4a. FINANCEIROS - para manutenção e atualização de plataformas colaborativas, alimentação e difusão de conteúdos, assessoria de imprensa
4b. HUMANOS E TECNOLÓGICOS - para desenvolvimento de alternativas livres frente ao advento das redes soicias e serviços grátis de comunicação sob controlete direto das corporações
(Pierre) : there is an expectation of 20000 euros ? – then nothing ? - each facilitation intiative/project is invited to look for funds – it would be good to maintain some guidelines about funding – this is one reason for having terms of reference for facilitation initiatives
Salutes
(rita) 5) SAUDAÇÕES5a. A Comissão agradeceu à juventude do mundo árabe por ter demonstrado na prática a importância estratégica da comunicação para a transformação social e apelou para que o Conselho Internacional passe a considera-lá desse modo
5b. Comissão saudou o anúncio de acordos internacionais para resgatar e preservar a memória do FSM e a disposição de integrar, através de seu GT de Memória, esse esforço coletivo
(comment from pierre) here there is a practical formal problem that will need further discussion - the GT memoria of comcom has not been operative and another working group has been started in Methcom
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