• Communication commission discussion

Re: Commission's budget proposal2011-2012 - deadline this week!

from salete valesan on Sep 22, 2010 01:02 AM
2010/9/21 Jason Nardi <jason.nardi@...>

> Querida Salete y tod@s,
>
> Thanks for indicating some key points (I was hoping they would emerge)
> in the budget proposal.
>
> I think we need to discuss further in order to take a good - and
> shared - decision.
>
> Can we have one last online meeting on this, during this week?
> Salete, please suggest a date and time.
>
> I think we need to address the following:
>
> 1. The scope of the WSF office and its specific tasks with regards to
> communication -- and where these become strategic or political
> decisions which are the IC's and the Communication's commission's
> responsibility.
>
> Until we resolve this, it is difficult to say where the budget
> allocation should go.  In this specific instance, I think it is the
> WSF Office's responsibility to manage and keep the website and
> database updated (stimulating contributions from and allowing access
> to the IC and wsf organising committees), but not to create/develop
> them - which is more a "political" responsibility involving the
> Communication commission of the IC in particular, especially since we
> agreed that we need to work to have the tools and websites developed
> so far "converge" towards a common portal (so we need to design and
> work on this together).  I personally have been proposing this for a
> long time, but the collaborative efforts have been very low and
> frankly, I fear that instead of a participatory process it might be
> taken as just an operational task, which it is not.
>
> So my proposal is that we set a "project budget" for the website(s)
> and database, dedicated to the technical development, convergence and
> maintenance of the wsf portal, which could be under the responsibility
> of a new group to be formed in the IC comprising people from the
> various commissions who should have input on what kind of
> functionalities the renewed website should have.  This could solve a
> problem of "dispersion" and multiplication of websites, of methodology
> (registration of participants) and strategy (promotion of the debate)
> as well as how to better make the expansion (languages, ways to
> involve different movements) and the resources (online fundraising).
> And someone from the wsfoffice to help with their experience of
> day-to-day management as well as from communication, with all the
> accumulated working groups experience.
>
> This inter-commission group would then decide how to allocate the
> funds after agreeing on the main features requested.
>
>
> 2. About Ciranda. It is not simply a matter of making equal divisions,
> otherwise we would have to divide this budget into small insignificant
> parts that won't allow us to do anything at all.  That said, I
> certainly agree that Ciranda is not just a historical but an important
> part of the wsf process and so is the radio forum and the other
> initiatives that have been put forth.
>
> The proposal from Ciranda sets some important challenges. I think it
> would be very useful if we could discuss these further - in particular
> when it says (from Rita's message):
>
> "We perceive two demands from the Communication Commission in relation
> to alternative media: interconnection between initiatives that produce
> coverage of the WSF and the possibility of access to journalists who
> have already participated in the WSF."
>
> These are not two new demands: they have been the reason by which we
> all decided that a facilitation of alternative media in the wsf
> process was needed. So what has Ciranda been doing until now?  I am
> not saying this in a polemic way -- I support Ciranda since the
> beginning! And I don't want to upset anyone.  But I do think that from
> the discussions had in the IC in Mexico and before, there is still
> some ambiguity on whether Ciranda is a space of the wsf process or an
> independent media itself. There is a difference and it could be
> difficult to continue to justify why Ciranda should receive economic
> support from the Commission's budget and not Terra Viva or other
> historical initiatives that have covered the forums all these years.
> Since I do think Ciranda has made significant efforts, I would like
> this issue to be solved once and for all !
>
>
> 3. An occasion could be the public seminar on communication of the wsf
> in Dakar.  It was proposed by Rita in Mexico but it hasn't been
> discussed after that at all.  If we want to do this as a contribution
> of the Communication commission, we need to decide it now and discuss
> how to approach it, who will organise it, what is needed, how to
> promote it, etc.  It would probably be more efficient if done together
> with the African communication commission - but someone has to
> initiate the debate!
>
>
> 4. Addressing Judith's request about interpreters at IC meetings -
> please Nicolas, correct me if I'm wrong.  That is the responsibility
> of the local organising committee who hosts the meeting and is part of
> a separate budget.  I agree it should be a fixed cost - but it's not
> in the Comcom's scope.  Maybe the liason group should discuss this?
>
> I hope we can advance on all these issues, which are fundamental for
> our present and future work.
>
> In solidarity,
> Jason
>
>
> 2010/9/16 salete valesan <salete.valesan@...>:
>  > Queridos/as da ComCom,
> >
> > Olhei os arquivos do openfsm.net e tenho as seguintes considerações:
> > 1 - Tirar os dois valores que são do escritório (Banco de dados e Site
> > processo)  e colocar no orçamento próprio, enviado para o
> > Ibase/oficina/Brasil.
> >
> > 2 - Separar o valor que está como Rádio e Ciranda pois são dois projetos
> > diferentes de Comunicação Compartilhada (10.000 para cada um deles para
> > ficar igual aos outros). A menos que a Pia e Rita estejam concordando que
> > fiquem juntos.
> > Os projetos de Comunicação Compartilhada (Ciranda, rádio e TV) tem como
> > objetivo o processo e a cobertura dos eventos, por isso, precisa ver o
> que
> > será possível garantir pela ComCom.
> >
> > 3 - Sobre a participação da ComCom com um Seminário em Dakar terá algum
> > recurso?
> > Nicolas, é possível colocar no orçamento do projeto do evento do FSM2011
> de
> > Dakar?
> >
> > 4 - Sobre Memória: estamos conversando aqui no Brasil com algumas pessoas
> do
> > governo e de empresas estatais para ver se é possível fazer um projeto.
> Se
> > tivermos alguma novidade boa, avisamos.
> >
> > 5 - Sobre a participação dos Brasileiros em Dakar, para o FSM 2011: ainda
> > não nos organizamos pois o Brasil está em período de eleições até final
> de
> > outrubro de 2010.
> >
> > Bj
> > Salete
> >
> >
> >
> > 2010/9/15 <hitchman@...>
> >>
> >> Dear all
> >>
> >> In terms of interpreting, please try to include Babel's participation in
> >> meetings, as well as the booths for interpretation and a per diem/hotel
> >> accommodation for interpreters (depending on the IC venue, local teams
> can
> >> cover this work). It should cover 7 people: 6 in the booths + 1 at the
> >> table...
> >>
> >> As always, this is a variable cost, so I have no idea how to budget it.
> >>
> >> In solidarity
> >>
> >> Judith
> >> ---- Envoyé avec BlackBerry® d'Orange ----
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Jason Nardi <jason.nardi@...>
> >> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:19:16
> >> To: wsf com com<communication-commission-discussion@...>
> >> Reply-To: communication-commission-discussion@...
> >> Subject: [Communication commission discussion] Commission's budget
> >> proposal
> >>        2011-2012 - deadline this week!
> >>
> >>
> >> Dear all,
> >>
> >> since after the last online meeting (september 6th) only a few
> >> exchanges have taken place, I want to remind all who are interested
> >> and active in the working groups to contribute with ideas and
> >> proposals by next Friday 17th, which is the extension we were granted.
> >>  Nicolas and the Resources commission need to put all the commissions'
> >> basic budget proposals together in a general "wsf process" one for
> >> 2011-2012.
> >>
> >> I have posted in the Resources part of the Com com space on
> >> openfsm.net what I think could be a first version, based on the past
> >> experiences and with all the limitations of having to deal with a
> >> lower amount of expected resources.
> >>
> >> So please have a look and comment / integrate:
> >> http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/comcomfunding-wiki
> >>
> >> cheers,
> >> Jason
> >>
> >>
> >> [ESP]
> >>
> >> Hola a todos,
> >>
> >> ya que después de la reunión en línea pasado (06 de septiembre), sólo
> >> unos pocos intercambios han tenido lugar, quiero recordar a todos los
> >> que estén interesados y activos en los grupos de trabajo para
> >> contribuir con ideas y propuestas para el viernes 17 sept., que es la
> >> extensión que se les concedió. Nicolás y la Comisión de Recursos
> >> necesidad de poner todas las propuestas de las comisiones en una
> >> general del "proceso del FSM" para 2011-2012.
> >>
> >> He publicado en la parte de recursos del espacio com Com en
> >> openfsm.net, lo que creo que podría ser una primera versión, basada en
> >> las experiencias del pasado y con todas las limitaciones de tener que
> >> lidiar con una menor cantidad de recursos previsto.
> >>
> >> Así que por favor eche un vistazo y comentario / integracion:
> >> http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/comcomfunding-wiki
> >>
> >> saludos,
> >> Jason
> >>
> >>
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