On Mon, July 20, 2009 8:29 pm, bettina gozzano wrote:
> dear Hilde, dear all, I've tried to link up with wsflibrary but it seems
> it is not online anymore.?. through google I found out that on
open.net you
> have allready raised wsf text memory/documentation issue.:
>
>
http://openesf.net/projects/documentation-esf-2008/lists/documentation-es
> f-2008-discussion/archive/2008/07/1217341813240/forum_view
>
>
> I'd like to know more about the 21 actionable themes ( i'll try to find
> something on
www.open.net, but as you said about
process.net,
opent.net
> has the same problem). I will not partecipte to comcom wendsday chat as
> usual, and on july 30 my holidays begin. good summer to everyone! ciao
> bettina
>
>
>
>
>
> 2009/7/17 Hilde C Stephansen <
so703hs@gold.ac.uk>
>
>
>> Dear Bettina, dear all
>>
>>
>> First of all, apologies for my absence in the last few days, as I said
>> in my previous email I was away for a few days, I got back too late on
>> Wednesday to participate in the chat. Then I have been overwhelmed with
>> work in the last couple of days.
>>
>> This is just a very quick reply for now. Regarding the point Bettina
>> raises about cataloguing of material, I agree that it is important to
>> have a coherent and shared system for classification. I don't know if
>> any of you know about or have been in contact with the wsf library - a
>> project run by NIGD and a group of Kenyan librarians? They adoped a
>> classification system based on the 'actionable themes' for the 2007
>> forum. You can see it here:
>>
http://www.wsflibrary.org/index.php/Actionable_themes. Maybe this
>> can form a basis for discussion?
>>
>> I also think the project of gathering together in one place of past WSF
>> memory is very important. Bettina - are you suggesting developing a
>> dedicated site for this?
>>
>> I think both a 'future' and 'past' memory based on documents of all
>> sorts is important, and yes, we do need to somehow systematize and bring
>> together the different proposals. It seems there wasn't really a
>> deadline on the 15th after all so we do have some more time...
>>
>> Bye for now,
>> in solidarity, Hilde
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, July 15, 2009 7:56 pm, bettina gozzano wrote:
>>
>>> PROPOSAL FOR MEMORY ARCHIVE
>>> Hallo to everybody,
>>> I know earlier today there was supposed to be the weekly chat...!
>>> reading the last mails around wsf memory, and the very long project
>>> proposed by sergio ( sorry, i could not read it all, also becouse of
>>> the language!) I am a little worried to see that a lot of enphasis is
>>> given to memory of the future, but almost no concern about memory of
>>> the past! Our group coordinator (Hilde ) is missing and no body pushed
>>> us to produce a coordinated, partecipated and inclusive memory project
>>> that has sense and that follows the given guidelines. I think we
>>> should all give a look again at Norma's document about Memory of WSF
>>> she has sent some time ago, wich I think is the basis for a memory
>>> archive project we
>> should
>>> consider. Today is supposed to be the deadline for presenting all
>>> groups projects+budgets; so far the memoryGT has not presented
>>> something organic and inclusive work. I have sent some thoughts and
>>> ideas through the mail but i do not know if anyone has read it.
>>>
>>> The only things I have seen is about the future memory; sergio's
>>> memory project wich is , in a way, for me not exactly a wsf memory
>>> recording, but more an idea for monitoring what people feel wsf
>>> process is...?The idea is good, but doesn't seem to me a wsf memory
>>> thing; I am skepticale about asking such big financing request for
>>> something that is really good as a museum activity that could, at the
>>> end, bedonated to wsf process, and not viceversa.
>>>
>>> I think we need to consider 2 aspects of memory:
>>> tha past and the future:
>>>
>>> the PAST, which is to be mapped, collected, and possible edited. How
>>> much time and eventually money is needed is difficult to say, since it
>>> depends on the amount of material. Most of it will need to be copied
>>> and sent to who will catalouge and edit it. It may even be possible
>>> that
>> some
>>> material has to be joined fisically, wich may mean travel expences.
>>> All
>>> groups that produce video ( but all sorts of wsf documentation can be
>>> included) should start mapping and share their lists of available
>>> memory material , and also start loading their material in one and
>>> only wsf database ( for video is supposed to be
wsftv.net), this way
>>> all material are collected in one container and is available to all at
>>> once ( also for a possible consultation space on pc of all memory
>>> material at future sf)
>>>
>>>
>>> For the FUTURE, I think it is quite easy to say that for each forum
>>> event ,
>>> together with the forum organization commitee, should have a number of
>>> people working at collecting the memory; the number of people
>>> depends on the type of event. For this, a number of crews also with
>>> local people involved ( for video each crew should be of 2 people)
>>> have to make sure that the sf is covered (video, radio, text) as much
>>> as possible,
>> following
>>> key plenaries, some thematic working groups, interviewing key and
>>> common people.
>>>
>>>
>>> Meantime a catalogation strategy should be studied in order to be
>>> able to easely pick out from the common database what one is
>>> searching. I think we have to find/decide few main macro areas of
>>> contents (max 10?) which are words that together with date+place+event
>>> where the material has been taken+ kind of material (video, txt,
>>> audio, still image) + language of transaltion, are going to be the
>>> tags for extracting the contents of interest. Each of these elements
>>> are to be catalogued with a specific rule that has to be given, like
>>> to fill in all its parts in a pre ordinated form ( the wsftv one has
>>> to be worked on).
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you for your attention
>>> another world is possible! besos Bettina
>>>
>>>
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