Caros estarei voando do Rio para Sp e n˜åo sei se conseguirei participar da reunião.
Dear allI will probably not be able to attend the comcom and memory group chat todayi am ready to co animate a space called soñthing like [ stimulqting memory documentation of 2010 activities[ which has been mentionned in the page hilde mentionnedand in the comcom summary document sent by jasonI know this is only a part of memory effort oriented towards the future , and i guess this group /space will need a minimal budget let us say 10% of the budget alloted to memoryhave a good chatPierre
2009/8/2, Hilde C Stephansen <so703hs@gold.ac.uk>:Dear all
ENGLISH (portugues abaixo)
Thank you for your comments Bettina. I also think we need to arrive at a
clearer understanding, as a group, about our objectives.
So, the suggestion is therefore to have a Memory and Documentation WG chat
straight after the main ComCom chat on Wednesday 5th August, from 19.00
GMT. There is a separate chat room already set up. Anyone who is not
already in it please send me your skype name and I will add you to the
chat.
Could everyone please respond to the list to say whether you can make this
time?
So that we can have a constructive discussion, it would be good if people
could prepare by reading:
- Norma's document (can you circulate this again Norma?)
- Bettina's draft budget proposal
- The various proposals to date, available at
http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/draft-project-proposal-here
PORTUGUES
Obrigada pelos seus comentarios Bettina. Concordo que precisamos chegar ao
entendimento mais claro, como grupo, sobre os nossos objetivos.
Então, a proposta é ter um chat do GT Memoria e Documentação depois do
chat semanal do ComCom na quarta-feira, dia 5 de augusto, as 1900 GMT.
Temos já um espaço do chat. Quem não já está dentro, me mande seu nome
skype e eu vou te adicionar.
Por favor, podem responder á lista para dizer se esta hora está bom?
Para ter uma conversa construtiva, sugero que tentamos ler os seguintes
documentos:
- o documento que a Norma mandou (pode mandar de novo, Norma?)
- a proposta do orçamento da Bettina
- as propostas que temos até agora:
http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/draft-project-proposal-here
In solidarity
hugs,
Hilde
On Fri, July 31, 2009 8:42 pm, bettina gozzano wrote:
> dear all memory wg,
>
> since i will not attend the next chat this group have scheduled, il will
> here write my considerations, (which actually in part i have already wrote
> to the group) about the projects and the process behind.
>
> over all, it seems to me that in terms of process, we have to be more
> carefull.
>
> i think we all need to understand what do we want to accomplish, and how.
> perhaps we must question what we mean when we speak about wsf memory. I
> have suggested to read the document norma has recently send to us, but
> have seen no reply to this suggestion as almost none to other ones.
> aren't wg also discussion groups or not? also, making a collective project
> has to go through a collective work, discussing and coming to a common
> product that is agreeable to all. It seems to me there may be the need to
> share thoughts and practice before coming out with proposals that seem to
> me a little "out of target" and perhaps not exctly matching the objectives
> of a wsf memory, a collaborative project should be reviewed and
> discussed by all who are involved. It should be a work of a group, not in
> a group!
>
> I think it may be a good idea for all of us discussing norma's document
> as one point of the agenda, and another might be the budget form, this
> way we may come to analize and summarize things and come to a common idea;
>
>
> attached i send a budget draft proposal for memory group discussion... it
> can be a starting point also.
>
> another effort we should all do regards lanquage; many write in mother
> tongue and make no effort to translate for those who don't understand...
> you know, i also could write only in italian and expect that everybody
> transltate for themself! as i make the effort of using a second language,
> so could others!!!! google translate is very helpfull, though, of course,
> it still needs correction.
>
> please hilde and norma, send a mail to the group for the scheduled chat
> meeting, as a reminder ( perhaps not everybody has read the past chat
> yet), it makes it more official! I will come back on the 9th and stay
> around only a couple of days... then i'm back by the end of august.
>
> i hope to see more involvement and replies from all of you! a solidarity
> big hug ciao bettina
>
>
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