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  • Invitation for the Iraqi National water policies conference of the ISF

    from Iraqi social forum on Mar 16, 2014 08:31 AM
    *Under the slogan*
    [image: صورة مضمّنة 5]
    
    The Iraqi Social Forum is holding a conference to discuss Iraq’s national
    water policies, in corporation with Save Tigris and the Iraqi Marshes
    Campaign, and with the support of Baghdad Provincial Council, as the
    TurkishRepublic continue it’s dam’s building policies. The conference
    will be held
    in Al Aquass hall- Baghdad International Hotel on the 22nd of March 2014 at
    10.00 am Baghdad Time.
    
    
    *The main themes:*
    
    1.      Introduction about the ISF and STIMC.
    
    2.      The current Iraqi water national policies and the horizons for
    developing future policies.
    
    3.      The Environmental impacts of the law water levels resulting from
    dams on the Headwaters of the rivers.
    
    4.      The anticipated agricultural, economic, and environmental status
    when the Iliso reservoir filling operation begins.
    
    5.      Legal options available in front of the Iraqi authorities to ensure
    a equitable share in the waters of the Tigris and Euphrates in the light of
    large-scale projects built on the headwaters of the river in Turkey and
    Iran without consulting with Iraq.
    
    For all our friends and colleagues out there who want to join us in saving
    our natural and cultural heritage on the Tigris banks, you can join us via
    Skype.
    
    ·(Please note the timing mentioned in this invitation is the Iraqi Time
    (GMT+3).
    
    . Confirm your participation with us no later than Wed. 19th March 2014.
    
    . Send Skype add requests to the account Ali_ros87
    
    
    
    *The Iraqi Social Forum*
    
    
    Ali Saheb
    
    Iraqi Social Forum Coordinator
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  • Re: Invitation for the Iraqi National water policies conference of the ISF

    from ToonB on Mar 16, 2014 08:49 AM
    Dear Ali,
    
    I'd like to participate via Skype. My skype name is Toon_11.
    
    Thanks.
    
    Best regards,
    
    
    2014-03-16 9:25 GMT+01:00 Iraqi social forum <info@...>:
    
    >
    > *Under the slogan *
    > [image: صورة مضمّنة 5]
    >
    > The Iraqi Social Forum is holding a conference to discuss Iraq’s national
    > water policies, in corporation with Save Tigris and the Iraqi Marshes
    > Campaign, and with the support of Baghdad Provincial Council, as the TurkishRepublic continue it’s dam’s building policies. The conference will be held
    > in Al Aquass hall- Baghdad International Hotel on the 22nd of March 2014
    > at 10.00 am Baghdad Time.
    >
    >
    > *The main themes:*
    >
    > 1.      Introduction about the ISF and STIMC.
    >
    > 2.      The current Iraqi water national policies and the horizons for
    > developing future policies.
    >
    > 3.      The Environmental impacts of the law water levels resulting from
    > dams on the Headwaters of the rivers.
    >
    > 4.      The anticipated agricultural, economic, and environmental status
    > when the Iliso reservoir filling operation begins.
    >
    > 5.      Legal options available in front of the Iraqi authorities to
    > ensure a equitable share in the waters of the Tigris and Euphrates in the
    > light of large-scale projects built on the headwaters of the river in
    > Turkey and Iran without consulting with Iraq.
    >
    > For all our friends and colleagues out there who want to join us in saving
    > our natural and cultural heritage on the Tigris banks, you can join us via
    > Skype.
    >
    > ·(Please note the timing mentioned in this invitation is the Iraqi Time
    > (GMT+3).
    >
    > . Confirm your participation with us no later than Wed. 19th March 2014.
    >
    > . Send Skype add requests to the account Ali_ros87
    >
    >
    >
    > *The Iraqi Social Forum*
    >
    >
    > Ali Saheb
    > Iraqi Social Forum Coordinator
    > ـــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــ
    > isf.iraq@...
    > info@...
    > www.iraqsf.org
    > skype: ali_ros87
    > 009647717642238
    > 009647702685201
    >
    >
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    • RE: Invitation for the Iraqi National water policies conference of the ISF

      from laura silvia battaglia on Mar 16, 2014 10:06 AM
      Me too. Skype @battgirl74
      Thanks,Best regards.
      Laura
      
      Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 09:43:38 +0100
      Subject: Re: [Iraq Social Forum] Invitation for the Iraqi National water	policies conference of the ISF
      From: bijnens.toon@...
      To: iraq-social-forum-english@...
      
      Dear Ali,
      
      I'd like to participate via Skype. My skype name is Toon_11.
      
      Thanks.
      
      Best regards,
      
      
      2014-03-16 9:25 GMT+01:00 Iraqi social forum <info@...>:
      
      
      Under the slogan
      
      
      
      The Iraqi Social Forum is holding
      a conference to discuss Iraq’s national water policies, in corporation with
      Save Tigris and the Iraqi Marshes Campaign, and with the support of Baghdad
      Provincial Council, as the Turkish Republic continue it’s dam’s
      building policies. The conference will be held in Al Aquass hall- Baghdad
      International Hotel on the 22nd of March 2014 at 10.00 am Baghdad
      Time.
      
      
      The main
      themes:
      
      1.     
      Introduction about the ISF and STIMC.
      
      2.     
      The current Iraqi water national policies and the horizons
      for developing future policies.
      
      3.     
      The Environmental impacts of the law water levels resulting
      from dams on the Headwaters of the rivers.
      
      
      
      4.      The anticipated agricultural, economic,
      and environmental status when the Iliso reservoir filling operation begins.
      
      
      
      5.     
      Legal options available
      in front of the Iraqi authorities to ensure a equitable share in the waters of the
      Tigris and Euphrates in the light of large-scale projects built on the headwaters
      of the river in Turkey and Iran without consulting with Iraq.
      
      For all our friends and colleagues out there who want to join
      us in saving our natural and cultural heritage on the Tigris banks, you can
      join us via Skype.
      
      ·(Please note the timing mentioned in this invitation is
      the Iraqi Time (GMT+3). 
      
      . Confirm your participation with us no later than Wed.
      19th March 2014.
      
      . Send Skype add requests to the account Ali_ros87
      
      
      
       
      
      The Iraqi Social Forum
      
      
      
      Ali Saheb
      
      Iraqi Social Forum Coordinatorـــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــisf.iraq@...
      
      info@...
      
      skype: ali_ros87009647717642238009647702685201
      
      
      
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      • Re: Invitation for the Iraqi National water policies conference of the ISF

        from pierre on Mar 18, 2014 11:25 AM
        Dear  Ali
        Count me in on skype for part of the morning
        
        Pierre
        
        
        2014-03-16 11:00 GMT+01:00 laura silvia battaglia <
        lausi.battaglia@...>:
        
        > Me too. Skype @battgirl74
        >
        > Thanks,
        > Best regards.
        >
        > Laura
        >
        > ------------------------------
        > Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 09:43:38 +0100
        > Subject: Re: [Iraq Social Forum] Invitation for the Iraqi National water
        > policies conference of the ISF
        > From: bijnens.toon@...
        > To: iraq-social-forum-english@...
        >
        >
        > Dear Ali,
        >
        > I'd like to participate via Skype. My skype name is Toon_11.
        >
        > Thanks.
        >
        > Best regards,
        >
        >
        > 2014-03-16 9:25 GMT+01:00 Iraqi social forum <info@...>:
        >
        >
        > *Under the slogan *
        >
        > The Iraqi Social Forum is holding a conference to discuss Iraq’s national
        > water policies, in corporation with Save Tigris and the Iraqi Marshes
        > Campaign, and with the support of Baghdad Provincial Council, as the TurkishRepublic continue it’s dam’s building policies. The conference will be held
        > in Al Aquass hall- Baghdad International Hotel on the 22nd of March 2014
        > at 10.00 am Baghdad Time.
        >
        >
        > *The main themes:*
        >
        > 1.      Introduction about the ISF and STIMC.
        >
        > 2.      The current Iraqi water national policies and the horizons for
        > developing future policies.
        >
        > 3.      The Environmental impacts of the law water levels resulting from
        > dams on the Headwaters of the rivers.
        >
        > 4.      The anticipated agricultural, economic, and environmental status
        > when the Iliso reservoir filling operation begins.
        >
        > 5.      Legal options available in front of the Iraqi authorities to
        > ensure a equitable share in the waters of the Tigris and Euphrates in the
        > light of large-scale projects built on the headwaters of the river in
        > Turkey and Iran without consulting with Iraq.
        >
        > For all our friends and colleagues out there who want to join us in saving
        > our natural and cultural heritage on the Tigris banks, you can join us via
        > Skype.
        >
        > ·(Please note the timing mentioned in this invitation is the Iraqi Time
        > (GMT+3).
        >
        > . Confirm your participation with us no later than Wed. 19th March 2014.
        >
        > . Send Skype add requests to the account Ali_ros87
        >
        >
        >
        > *The Iraqi Social Forum*
        >
        >
        > Ali Saheb
        > Iraqi Social Forum Coordinator
        > ـــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــ
        > isf.iraq@...
        > info@...
        > www.iraqsf.org
        > skype: ali_ros87
        > 009647717642238
        > 009647702685201
        >
        >
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        • RE: Invitation for the Iraqi National water policies conference of the ISF

          from Ben Fredj Nozha on Mar 18, 2014 11:12 PM
          Dear Ali,
          me too
          kind regards
          ben fredj nozha
          skye:princesse rtjt
          
          Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 12:19:08 +0100
          Subject: Re: [Iraq Social Forum] Invitation for the Iraqi National water	policies conference of the ISF
          From: pierregrg@...
          To: iraq-social-forum-english@...
          
          Dear  Ali Count me in on skype for part of the morning
          Pierre
          
          2014-03-16 11:00 GMT+01:00 laura silvia battaglia <lausi.battaglia@...>:
          
          
          
          
          Me too. Skype @battgirl74
          Thanks,Best regards.
          Laura
          
          Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 09:43:38 +0100
          
          Subject: Re: [Iraq Social Forum] Invitation for the Iraqi National water	policies conference of the ISF
          From: bijnens.toon@...
          To: iraq-social-forum-english@...
          
          
          Dear Ali,
          
          I'd like to participate via Skype. My skype name is Toon_11.
          
          Thanks.
          
          Best regards,
          
          
          2014-03-16 9:25 GMT+01:00 Iraqi social forum <info@...>:
          
          
          
          Under the slogan
          
          
          
          The Iraqi Social Forum is holding
          a conference to discuss Iraq’s national water policies, in corporation with
          Save Tigris and the Iraqi Marshes Campaign, and with the support of Baghdad
          Provincial Council, as the Turkish Republic continue it’s dam’s
          building policies. The conference will be held in Al Aquass hall- Baghdad
          International Hotel on the 22nd of March 2014 at 10.00 am Baghdad
          Time.
          
          
          The main
          themes:
          
          1.     
          Introduction about the ISF and STIMC.
          
          2.     
          The current Iraqi water national policies and the horizons
          for developing future policies.
          
          3.     
          The Environmental impacts of the law water levels resulting
          from dams on the Headwaters of the rivers.
          
          
          
          
          4.      The anticipated agricultural, economic,
          and environmental status when the Iliso reservoir filling operation begins.
          
          
          
          
          5.     
          Legal options available
          in front of the Iraqi authorities to ensure a equitable share in the waters of the
          Tigris and Euphrates in the light of large-scale projects built on the headwaters
          of the river in Turkey and Iran without consulting with Iraq.
          
          For all our friends and colleagues out there who want to join
          us in saving our natural and cultural heritage on the Tigris banks, you can
          join us via Skype.
          
          ·(Please note the timing mentioned in this invitation is
          the Iraqi Time (GMT+3). 
          
          . Confirm your participation with us no later than Wed.
          19th March 2014.
          
          . Send Skype add requests to the account Ali_ros87
          
          
          
          
           
          
          The Iraqi Social Forum
          
          
          
          Ali Saheb
          
          
          Iraqi Social Forum Coordinatorـــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــisf.iraq@...
          
          
          info@...
          
          
          skype: ali_ros87009647717642238009647702685201
          
          
          
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          • Re: Invitation for the Iraqi National water policies conference of the ISF

            from abdu_abdulkarem on Mar 19, 2014 06:10 AM
            Hello All.
            
            The stream will be on YouTube with 2 links/streams, one for main (Arabic)
            Language, the other for foreign language (English), and the viewer will not
            bother him/herself for signing up and other staff, but all he/she needs is
            their Adobe Flash Player is up to date (for who not using Google Chrome
            Browsers).
            
            And for who wants to interact with us, the session will be on Google
            Hangout, to join with us, you must signing up at *https://plus.google.com/
            <https://plus.google.com/>, *and installing the plugin for Hangout from the
            link bellow:
            https://www.google.com/tools/dlpage/hangoutplugin
            
            The Links will be available before 15 Minutes from starting (10:00 AM
            Baghdad Time, 07:00 GMT).
            
            Viewers can check the page on Facebook for publishing the viewers links,
            but the links for the interact rooms, will be sent by E-Mail.
            https://www.facebook.com/iraqisocialforum.
            
            All the best..
            Abdulkarem A. Abbas.
            Member of Streaming Team of ISF.
            
            
            
            On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 2:06 AM, Ben Fredj Nozha
            <benfredj.nozha@...>wrote:
            
            > *Dear Ali,*
            >
            > *me too*
            >
            > *kind regards*
            >
            > *ben fredj nozha*
            >
            > *skye:princesse rtjt*
            >
            > ------------------------------
            > Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 12:19:08 +0100
            >
            > Subject: Re: [Iraq Social Forum] Invitation for the Iraqi National water
            > policies conference of the ISF
            > From: pierregrg@...
            > To: iraq-social-forum-english@...
            >
            >
            > Dear  Ali
            > Count me in on skype for part of the morning
            >
            > Pierre
            >
            >
            > 2014-03-16 11:00 GMT+01:00 laura silvia battaglia <
            > lausi.battaglia@...>:
            >
            > Me too. Skype @battgirl74
            >
            > Thanks,
            > Best regards.
            >
            > Laura
            >
            > ------------------------------
            > Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 09:43:38 +0100
            > Subject: Re: [Iraq Social Forum] Invitation for the Iraqi National water
            > policies conference of the ISF
            > From: bijnens.toon@...
            > To: iraq-social-forum-english@...
            >
            >
            > Dear Ali,
            >
            > I'd like to participate via Skype. My skype name is Toon_11.
            >
            > Thanks.
            >
            > Best regards,
            >
            >
            > 2014-03-16 9:25 GMT+01:00 Iraqi social forum <info@...>:
            >
            >
            > *Under the slogan *
            >
            > The Iraqi Social Forum is holding a conference to discuss Iraq’s national
            > water policies, in corporation with Save Tigris and the Iraqi Marshes
            > Campaign, and with the support of Baghdad Provincial Council, as the TurkishRepublic continue it’s dam’s building policies. The conference will be held
            > in Al Aquass hall- Baghdad International Hotel on the 22nd of March 2014
            > at 10.00 am Baghdad Time.
            >
            >
            > *The main themes:*
            >
            > 1.      Introduction about the ISF and STIMC.
            >
            > 2.      The current Iraqi water national policies and the horizons for
            > developing future policies.
            >
            > 3.      The Environmental impacts of the law water levels resulting from
            > dams on the Headwaters of the rivers.
            >
            > 4.      The anticipated agricultural, economic, and environmental status
            > when the Iliso reservoir filling operation begins.
            >
            > 5.      Legal options available in front of the Iraqi authorities to
            > ensure a equitable share in the waters of the Tigris and Euphrates in the
            > light of large-scale projects built on the headwaters of the river in
            > Turkey and Iran without consulting with Iraq.
            >
            > For all our friends and colleagues out there who want to join us in saving
            > our natural and cultural heritage on the Tigris banks, you can join us via
            > Skype.
            >
            > ·(Please note the timing mentioned in this invitation is the Iraqi Time
            > (GMT+3).
            >
            > . Confirm your participation with us no later than Wed. 19th March 2014.
            >
            > . Send Skype add requests to the account Ali_ros87
            >
            >
            >
            > *The Iraqi Social Forum*
            >
            >
            > Ali Saheb
            > Iraqi Social Forum Coordinator
            > ـــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــ
            > isf.iraq@...
            > info@...
            > www.iraqsf.org
            > skype: ali_ros87
            > 009647717642238
            > 009647702685201
            >
            >
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      • RE: Invitation for the Iraqi National water policies conference of the ISF

        from OlfaMed on Mar 19, 2014 06:24 AM
        Dear Ali,
        
        Me too. My skype name is lolofti02
        
        Thanks.
        Le 16 mars 2014 11:00, "laura silvia battaglia" <lausi.battaglia@...>
        a écrit :
        
        > Me too. Skype @battgirl74
        >
        > Thanks,
        > Best regards.
        >
        > Laura
        >
        > ------------------------------
        > Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 09:43:38 +0100
        > Subject: Re: [Iraq Social Forum] Invitation for the Iraqi National water
        > policies conference of the ISF
        > From: bijnens.toon@...
        > To: iraq-social-forum-english@...
        >
        > Dear Ali,
        >
        > I'd like to participate via Skype. My skype name is Toon_11.
        >
        > Thanks.
        >
        > Best regards,
        >
        >
        > 2014-03-16 9:25 GMT+01:00 Iraqi social forum <info@...>:
        >
        >
        > *Under the slogan *
        >
        > The Iraqi Social Forum is holding a conference to discuss Iraq’s national
        > water policies, in corporation with Save Tigris and the Iraqi Marshes
        > Campaign, and with the support of Baghdad Provincial Council, as the TurkishRepublic continue it’s dam’s building policies. The conference will be held
        > in Al Aquass hall- Baghdad International Hotel on the 22nd of March 2014
        > at 10.00 am Baghdad Time.
        >
        >
        > *The main themes:*
        >
        > 1.      Introduction about the ISF and STIMC.
        >
        > 2.      The current Iraqi water national policies and the horizons for
        > developing future policies.
        >
        > 3.      The Environmental impacts of the law water levels resulting from
        > dams on the Headwaters of the rivers.
        >
        > 4.      The anticipated agricultural, economic, and environmental status
        > when the Iliso reservoir filling operation begins.
        >
        > 5.      Legal options available in front of the Iraqi authorities to
        > ensure a equitable share in the waters of the Tigris and Euphrates in the
        > light of large-scale projects built on the headwaters of the river in
        > Turkey and Iran without consulting with Iraq.
        >
        > For all our friends and colleagues out there who want to join us in saving
        > our natural and cultural heritage on the Tigris banks, you can join us via
        > Skype.
        >
        > ·(Please note the timing mentioned in this invitation is the Iraqi Time
        > (GMT+3).
        >
        > . Confirm your participation with us no later than Wed. 19th March 2014.
        >
        > . Send Skype add requests to the account Ali_ros87
        >
        >
        >
        > *The Iraqi Social Forum*
        >
        >
        > Ali Saheb
        > Iraqi Social Forum Coordinator
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        > www.iraqsf.org
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        > 009647717642238
        > 009647702685201
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