sasfbd august videos (history) - SASF Bangladesh Extended

Another Friend from India is speaking now about Hundreds of people participated in the meeting. He is speaking about terrorists attack in people in south asia. He said, terroriest are common enemy of the people of South Asia

[11:25:01] Pierre: i still do not see your inputs in the chat room musfik, but i know there are here ! : … now they arrived to me and i see them !!

(there has been a lag in the skype chat- inputs made in blangadesh were stuck for a long time)

[11:25:39] sasf bd extension: Mr. Vijay Protap from India is speaking He hoped, South Asia Social Forum will initiate to create soverign south asia

Now, Ms. Dev Kumari Gurung from Nepal is speaking .She said, We have to have a strategy solution of regional problem

Dr. Professor Rashid e Mahbub from Bangladesh is now speaking : Within the region of South Asia have some common problem, so we need a common platform to solution these problems, he said

[Mr. Hilal, the Moderator talked about the Freedom Figtheer Measuam.

[11:32:27] Pierre: with your help Musfik the meeting it easy to follow , thanks

[11:32:45] sasf bd extension: He is asking Tarek Ali, Freedom Fighter of Bangladesh is now speaking

He said, subcontinent divided in two part in 1947, and later another part in 1971. But we have the common culture.He said about Rabindrath Tagor

[11:36:38] sasf bd extension: According to tagor, we need to explore the self-realisation produced from this region, which is really solution.Please do the social forum with the essense of self realisation

[11:38:39] sasf bd extension: Now Ms. Farah Kabir, Country Representative of ActionAid Bangladesh is speaking. She said, we are searching something.South Asia divided and we made some problems. So, we are searching some solutions: We are all separate from our own integrity.So, iife and livelihood became difficult of south asia region

[11:42:56] sasf bd extension: The ingural session is now end. Now it is break for 45 minutes

Pause

[11:38:12] Pierre: hello taofiq!

[11:38:35] taufiq: yes pierre, Silently i am flowing the program - pierre

[11:40:34] Pierre: great.. musfik is helping a great dealthanks

[11:43:26] sasf bd extension We will come again in another session at 12.30 pm

[11:46:30] Pierre: thanks for the good following ..it helps a log and keeps a summarized memory that can be copy pasted in a document along with the video so it is quite valuable

musfik can you accept adama, from Senegal , he has asked for contact wit sasfbd.extension, please usher him in the chat room .adama says he has contacted you...: ok i invite adama

[11:48:50] *** Pierre added Adama ***

[11:50:02] Pierre: hello adama the video link is http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sasf-bd-extention

Presentation of concept note

[12:06:43] sasf bd extension: We back again after tea break

now Mr Asad will present concept note of SASF

SASF Preparation... August 5, 2011 8:10 AM 63 mn concept note of sasf

[12:11:44] Pierre: the sound is better because you are filming closer !

[12:14:39] sasf bd extension: This papers contents 1. Background 2. Charter and principles 3. South Asia Social Forum 4. Objective of SASF 2011 at Dhaka 5. Sub theme(Key issues) to address in Forum 2011 6. Date and vanue 7. Targeted participants 8. Expected outcome 8. Program structure 9. Program schedule 11. Organizing process of SASF 12.Role and mandate of working group 13. communication 15. Follow up & Future cooperation

Recently we will send you the soft copy of concept note

[12:30:45] sasf bd extension: Mr, Asad has finished his presentation .Now moderation Mr, Hilal is talking . Mr. Hilal call audiance for their own contribution

[12:33:22] sasf bd extension: Mr. Asad thanks for the paper, and also suggest for include the fundamental isssue of this region, and emphasis on cross cutting issues of the region . Asad suggest for include a paragraph for on how we are define the role of Market , stateand civil society.

[12:34:41] Asad conclude his speech.

Comments on concept note

[12:36:38] Another participants suggest for communal hegemony in this discussion

[12:39:32] Vijay pratap reply- the conception of SASF is bring people to a one boat,so technically we cant response like a radical organization as we have a open space to invite all

[12:40:44] Shafi from Amar Adhikar champaign from Dhaka reply- suggest for a sub theme incorporating education and health issue

[12:44:39] Mr. Mahbub hasan, thanks asad for presentation. suggest for 1. in cope 30 SASF was attained so we can include the cope issue here

[12:46:27] Shamima Nasrin, suggest for include trade union issue, specially trade union rights and its role

[12:51:20] Mr. Awal from Dhaka- suggest for include a paragraph for livelihood issue of this region and causes of poverty of this region.

[12:51:53] Mr. Ratan reply-- missing

[12:56:32] sasf bd extension: Mr, Amit from India said, we facilated the process to come together to face the neo-liberal economics. It is not an organization . It is a open space of people, organisations, institutions. Where people share the thoughts

[12:52:10] Adama diallo: this is the summury of the meeting ?

[12:53:23] sasf bd extension: Ya

[12:54:09] Adama diallo: okk good because i ghave some problem with the audio

Invitation to inputs from remote participants

[12:58:13] sasf bd extension: If you have any opinion about the South Asia Social Forum Preparatory Meeting, Please convey us, we will try to convey your message to the participants.

[13:00:46] sasf bd extension: Abul Hossain from Bangladesh is speaking! He said about the public services of urban people. He suggested to include this issue in the agenda of South Asian Social Forum

[13:02:00] sasf bd extension: Mr. Asad from Bangladesh will now make a summary of the discussion

Somebody is asking about the activity about sub-committee

[13:03:08] sasf bd extension: Dev Kumari Ghurung is now speaking .She said about migration, forced migration.She said also about post migration situation .She also said about women migration and their situation at abroad .She said that it is a radical problem about south asia

[13:07:22] Pierre: Musfik now your recent inputs in the chat room reach us in paris ! yoshihide is also following from Osaka, and Francine from Brussels , they may also receive them with some delay

[13:07:40] sasf bd extension: Now Mr. Asad is speaking He said, we will include the all suggessions and recommendations at Concept Note

Acceptation of concept note

[13:08:52] sasf bd extension: Everybody is accepting the concept note with big hand

[13:09:03] Pierre: we too !

[13:09:14] sasf bd extension: thanks!

Pause

[13:09:39] sasf bd extension: this is the month of Fasting in Bangladesh called Ramadan .So, people are asking to continue the programme without break. But somebody want a 10 minutes breaks for refreshing. 10 minutes break is allowed.

Suggested inputs about sasf extension – and a quick verbal input in the meeting

[13:11:35] sasf bd extension: This is the break time. Hello, Pierre, if you have any comments, please pass it to us. We will try to convey your message

[13:13:25] Pierre: just may be to suggest that hilal or aamanconvey verbally the invitation that was circulated , about sasf being an extended event http://openfsm.net/projects/sasf-bangladesh-extended/sasfbd-august-invitation

i guess it would be also good that hilal indicate that people interested get in touch with you and masha- so we put them into a mailing list and start interacting with them

this meeting is a rare occasion to make contact with organizations that will send delegate to dhaka for sure , but also may want to develop "local" activities outside dhaka in south asia, and "connect" to dhaka venue

so the extension team can promote this idea in casual meeting with participants based on the ivnitation circulated by hilal

meeting resumes

[13:31:38] Pierre: now resuming the meeting-

SASF BD Extention... August 5, 2011 9:32 AM 8mn

(this is what can be grasped in absence of notes and with poor sound)

(reading a paper) ( sound difficult to understand ) carry on a signpost . concept note of sasf initial concept - international council in paris may 2011 after what founding group? - group - meeting in july discussing progress made so far - accepted at university - progress on program - ....... - university - 1 preparation of program is in progress, events communication 5-participant 19 to 21 november - applause

3mn now on behalf of finance working group - strategy - plan A optimized expectations and plan B minimal expectations - i hope by next week we finalize ... international NGO we should form a subcomittee .hurry . very positive response , we want to have another meeting in the next one or two week and have some ... international secretariat .... we have prepared a letter for the secretariat - a one website man and one communication man full time , we will continue the jamboree - we this proposal already .... complement what i said ( laughter)

6mn we are in the processmainly funded by the participant - 80% of .. everyone . possible smaller i think this is called - how much people and movement joining us - minimal organize to organize .. thank you (applausee)

7mn - request worldwide request .... NGO -

8mn another working groups we know that .has made. good progress on manageent on foreign ministry ( interruption of video)

[13:46:05] Pierre: is this the presentation by committees?

SASF preparation... August 5, 2011 9:42 AM 42 mn
- farah is this only me .. south asia suggestions given that some of you organized mumbai ;; get from your presence here ...
- pushing issues, how it wil be organized , discussion process,, particiption major portion that . to place in;; form concept for this forum
Part discussion on fundraising
- ( seeing the audience part ....) 2mn could i just share .. (speaking in bangla .) fundraising ...
- 3m30 speaking in bangla .....
- 4m40 action , event management , ... committee,
- general council meeting it is there
- complaint .. some other members, comunication from the secretariat i assume that , improve communication , responded ...
- 7mn woman ..;working group ..;.. thank you
- 8mn in bangla
- 9mn in bangla fundraising .....(person in the audience part same as before)
- 10mn30 let us clarifiy do and dont we should have criteira who are the people that dont qualify , corporate multinational companies who cannot be approached what is the timeline , &8th of novembre
- i seek assistance of gupta into the dos and dont
- amit: finance ..;who as a principle i dont think in terms of actually make it work dont get any raise institutionnal funds in a social forum if 20000 come they come spending their own money that is the social if you include that that is our largest instituationnal funding ...(bangla) ...institutionnal funding .. in india situation differing you will have tomake your own .. priniciple in india no more thatn 30% should come from ...one donor,upt to you to decide, 2/ all multinational companies .. we managed to do ti in mumbay we took no monay and gave no money coke pepsi ... ohter in many social forum coke pepsi this is the real i cannot say ... consensus governement funding we will not more pernicious issues foundations , one social forum in brazil ...; foundations ...in india .. why should we get money .... among ourselves .... finally ...10% bigger one but significant one organiation that were organizeing activtieis - some organization may contribute ..so we say again ;; it should not keep organiation and made it clear that we wuold not exclude anybody that cannot pay , european
- 20mn any comment ?
- comment in bangla by the standing person in audience
- 21mn laugther fix basic principles . i support that could be done these are the general principles wsf in kenya were a lot of criticism ...people attended ,we shold have pricniples when you have the funding of fundation sometimes it is no so visibe if we approach the ... foundation .;i know many progressive are using bill gates these are the debate we ca angree about from th eprivate fundation and they are not into repressive action some .. where we really can tap funds .. maybe we should have some flexibility
- 24m30 amit religious organization may not follow us sectarian.... there is noting in wsf charter preventing religious by sectarian meaning those that exlcude others
- 25mn0 hilal - finance comitte wil make policies
- 26m20 ???sound too loud
- 27mn university strong department ... partners even that relations
- 28mn farah ....
Part discussion on ic meeting in Dhaka 23 to 25th november
- 28mn30 hila wsf ic meeting in dhaka ....bangladesh has been with the last decision in paris next wsf ic meeting will be in dhaka this decision has us about from all of ... some of them but we should create conditions holding of such an event we need special for it , i think ic let us
- 30mn amit : the international council is the only structure every member in the ic has the same level - there is no other hierarchy there are commissions- the membership of commissions is open to ic members and other that are not ic members - absolutely flat structure - everybody in the ic has the same level - all orgnaization abide by the charter of principles - membership of the ic easy - to make sure that we understand - tipically ic meets twice a year - all continent part members - observers even if you are not a formal member you can attend - all ic member - ic member means organization two person - hosting countries - we expect 70 to 80 people usually - the principle on funding the ic is that the hosting organisation takes care of hospitality costs - japan korean they have to take care of all travel costs - but the hosting orgnaization raise money for travale cost of southern countriy .. what is happening there is a lot of ic member from the south - with all this we expect that largely from afirca asia - the exact number you have to with secretariat in sao paulo - ... so we need to raise money for the support of travel and more trnaslation english spanish and french - translation booth - accomodation should be confortable but modest - people coming on their own cost will pay for it - give option that they can stay in the same place and book direct ...it is a political task for us to have ic here - politicla issues discussed this morning place them in the ic and ma.....
- 37mn (distorsion ) hilal thank you - ....to what we can we like to be ... express suppose to but so we
- 39mn (distorsion )thank you i apologize for ....;i would like to ..;social forum
- 40mn can we declare ic will be 23 24 25
  
  40mn(distorsion ) hilal declare successful decision we could decide progrees meeting we could decide on the ic meeting and before that ... space in university spaces all of our energies ; thank you all ( every body standing )

After the meeting

[20:59:25] mahmoud: Hi: welcome to all people from palestinel

[21:15:24] Pierre: back in the room

[00:45:05] Francois: yep

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sasfbd august videos

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2h30mn of live video

Video and chat transcript of Dhaka preparatory meeting august 5th - looking to SASF november 18th in Dhaka