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WSF Cafe FSM

 invitation  wsfcafefsm ottawa  | invitation  wsfcafefsm ottawa fr   | participant profile in skype conversation room 

list of livestreams  |  topics- sujets in café    |   pad with participants comments on videos  |  narrative

chatlog2 détails (wip)


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Active outline - Plan actif 

Wsf cafe Ottawa room  10-30 august – Salle du Café FSM  10-30 aout

10/08. 8

11/08. 8

12/08. 11

13/08. 11

14/08. 12

15/08. 13

16/08. 14

17/08. 15

18/08. 17

19/08. 20

20/08. 24

21/08___PSF/FSP_____________________________________________________________. 35

1 -Twitter. 35

2 -Eric  & topics  -  Eric et sujets. 35

3 – 3rd account  - 3eme compte. 35

4 – arrival of Sylvie – arrivée de sylvie. 35

5 - Julie. 36

6 -Ceremonie ouverture et Naomi klein – eric chris lopsiwa. 36

7 –what does ottawa say ? que dit ottawa ?. 37

8 - Livestreams 21 aout. 37

9 -  Alternate media  assembly on/sur facebook – eric lopsiwa. 38

10 - Uddhab. 38

11 – in PSF 17 themes au FSP. 39

12 - Atelier de Julie. 39

13 – opening sessio - Séance d’ouverture rabble/ca – television FSP. 39

14 - Miloud Morroco. 40

15 - Martin – Présentation  julie. 40

16 –Roger RD Congo. 40

17  Hassan Morroco. 41

18- How to enter the skype room - Comment entrer dans la salle skype ?. 41

19 – sites web et le calendrier FSM... 41

20 - Chris- Hassan - Roger. 41

21 -Atelier tunis le 22 a 16h Ottawa. 42

22 - Infos de Gustavo. 43

23 - Atelier de Gustavo. 43

22/08_____PSF/FSP________________________________________________________________. 43

1 - Infos de Sylvie. 43

2 - Sylvie – Toussaint Togo. 43

3 - Julie  Atelier Gustavo. 44

4 – Abdazez jordan. 45

5 -Sophie benevole. 45

6 - Questions to Paul canadop. 45

7 - Chat log page. 45

8 - Janneth Colombia – Chris- Julie. 46

9 - Eric Sylvie Julie. 46

10 - Martin  invite alexandre. 47

11 – suggesion to have one room per language - Suggestions de  specialiser des salles par langues ?  47

12 - Abdazez. 47

13 - Eric Sylvie  janneth on/sur l’education. 47

14 - Gustavo – chris – Sylvie ( report on Gustavo workshop). 49

15 - Chris asking Gustavo about advice from his workshop experience. 50

16 - Now focusing on Sylvie’s next workshop. 50

16 -Meeting Sylvie Gustavo in ottawa. 51

17 Adresse of Sylvie to participants. 51

18 -Toussaint – Sylvie – atelier tunis 2015 dans 30mn. 51

19 -Atelier de Sylvie demain  sur la gouvernance mondiale. 52

20 – Gustavo goes to livestream on  mines  -  part livestreamer sur les mines. 52

21 -From worksop on tunis /Depuis l’atelier sur tunis 2015. 53

22 - Pierre arrive a ottawa. 53

23 - Chris gives info to Mohamed Egypt. 53

24- issue of topics in the café – sujets dans le café  Chris Eric Mohamed- Mohamed. 54

25 - Sylvie – Chris – Gustavo  while at a restaurant in ottawa – au restaurant. 55

23/08_____PSF/FSP________________________________________________________________. 56

1 - Start. 56

2 – proposal to start pads around some issues  - Proposition de faire des pads autour des sujets  - Joseph Haiti 56

3 – Find links to organisations presetn in ottawa - trouver des liens avec les organisations présentes a Ottawa  57

4 - Gustavo  chris about wsf 2016. 58

5 - Heather assembly?. 58

6 - Julie –invitation  Sylvie. 58

7 - What about those participants in wsf café who said they will be in Ottawa? Que se passé til avec les participants qui ont dit qu’ils seraient a ottawa. 59

8 - Said- egypt Call  Said Egypt – Saida Ottawa - Sylvie. 59

9 - Who is available for calls from Ottawa ? qui peut prendre les appels venant de Ottawa?. 60

10 - Abadzez - Sylvie. 60

11 - Sylvie – Juan Carlos( call). 61

12 - Louis – eric  ( call ). 62

13 - Update of narrative page- mise  ajour de la narration. 62

14 - Anyone in the room? Qui est dans la sale?. 62

15 - Sylvie assembly US social forum.. 63

16 - Maher looking for streams – pad for commenting streams- maher cherche des streams – des pads pour commenter les videos. 63

17 – Continue after PSF -Continuer après le FSP - Eric. 64

18 - Themes of today ?  list of streams?. 64

19 - Hassan Sylvie Maher USSF. 65

18 - Link to indigenous assembly. 66

19 - Gabrielle workshop streamed ?. 66

20 – Streams by media  undocumented ?. 66

21 - Info fromIraq. 66

22 - Sylvie streaming Ussf forum assembly – Sylvie stream l’assemblée ussf. 66

23 - Joining the livestream? Requires subscribing to livestream.. 67

24 - Pierre With Sylvie inn ussf assemblie. 67

25 - Proposing input to Maher in the ussf assembly- propose a maher d’intervenir dans l’assemblée ussf  68

26 - Moving to next assembly on social forums- en route vers assemble sur forums sociaux. 69

27 - Nommer la salle skype dans son ordinateur. 70

28 – on translation Maher suggesting spiders- pour la traduction. 70

29 - Eric et Toussaint- geeting to watch - s’installent pour regarder. 70

30 - Lopsiwa basse connectivité. 71

31 - Protocols pour accede au livestream.. 71

32 - Commentaries  en anglais par Sylvie pour maher. 73

33 - Sujet des visas  in canada– issue of visas. 74

34 -Partenaires pour organiser les forums. 75

35  combined participation –centered/local  Participation combine-centrée locale- Pierre. 75

36 - Visas 2. 75

37 - Mohieddine de/from tunis  organizing committee. 76

38 - English translation by sylvie. 76

39 - Comments Eric –toussaint. 77

40 - Gabrielle workhsop. 78

41 - Sylvie et Dakar. 78

42 - Evenement G20 australie en novembre. 79

43 – leaving – on se quitte. 79

44 -Tomorrow assemblies report – le rapport des assemblées demain. 80

45 - Skype logs of the day – le contenu de la sale skype. 80

24/08_____PSF/FSP__________________________________________________________. 80

1 - Eric maher chris. 80

2 - Starting assembly with two livestreams – inviting questions -. 81

3 - Future of wsf café. 81

4 - Paul 82

5 - Location of wsf café?. 82

6 - Comment on assembly. 82

7 - Toussaint accède au livestream.. 83

8  - Ordre des 17 assemblées. 83

9 - Sylvie au micro. 85

10 - Caucus peoples indigènes. 85

11 - Haiti 86

12 - Assembly again. 86

13 -Appel de certains mouvements. 87

14 - Commentaries sur le texte lu. 87

15 - Mail de contact. 88

16 – Future of wsf café  Futur du café FSM – rencontre skype a venir  - ecrire sur la liste. 89

25/08. 90

26/08. 90

27/08. 90

29:08. 90

30 /08. 96

 

 

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Wsf cafe Ottawa room  10-30 august – Salle du Café FSM  10-30 aout

Participation Traffic by day 11 to 30 august   - traffic par jour

11 > 59  - 12 > 4  13 > 11 – 14 > 32 - 15> 62 - 16 > 31  - 17 > 34 - 18 > 78- 19> 148 - 20 > 179 - 21> 243- 22> 259- 23 > 606- 24 > 304- 25> 6 – 27> 6 –-29 >  63- 30> 91

Participation 30+ people:  number of inputs – nombre d’entrées par 30° personnes

Also  audio conversation  by participants – many input means comment during livestreams ( example  : eric – Toussaint- joseph  lopsiwa …)   By order of appearance

Aussi les conversations audios – beaucoup d’entré veut dire des commentaries pendant les video en direct– par ordre d’arrivée dans le café

Café Ottawa 606 ( organizing) - Chris Australia 356 (editing and night shift) -Ghassen  Tunisia 4 Janneth  Colombia 16 - Pierre  France 23 – Luciano Brasil  4 – Uddhab  Nepal 6 -  Eric  Bénin 231 (1 audio conversation with ottawa) ( next café in dakar?)  – Imran Afghanistan  7 – Zarel mexicol 13 – Lopsiwa  cameroun 57 -   Catherine Maroc  2 (1 audio conversation with ottawa)  - Toussaint togo  104  - Gustavo  Canada 115  ( 5 livestreams!) -  Said  Egypt19  and 1 audio conversation with ottawa – Abdazez  syria/Jordan 32 – Joseph Haiti  35   Roger  RD congo 14 – Julie  Canada 20 – Muhanna  Iraq 18  - Ethel  Canada 6  Soufiane Maroc  14 – Miloud  Maroc 4 –Mohamed Egypt 22 – café Ottawa 2  canada  91 – Sylvie  Canada 253 ( 2 livestreams and chat room welcoming) – Hassan maroc  43 – Juan Carlos Espana  3 (1 call)  – Maher Egypt 108 ( 1  audio conversation with ottawa)   - Martin  Canada 1  Daryl Cameroun 4  Fomum cameroun  1- mad  ? 2 Ahmed  mauritanie 12 Kashif paksitan 2

13 people No skype participation – pas de participation skype

although registered  or ‘invited by third party in chat room  pas de participation skype bien que present dans la sale inscrit ou invite

Raphael  Canada  Danny  RD congo ( registered)   Jenny  Mexico  Olfa Tunisia ( registered)   Carminda Canada Alexandre  Canada  Mustapha maroc ( excused)  Abdul Canada (registered)   Ali  Iraq  Jason italia , 2907? ; Nouhed Tunisia (excused) ,  Okito ( registered n’a pas trouvé la salle)

15 people Not accepting skype contact yet   - n’accepte pas encore  le contact skype

Registered or contacted as participants but did not accept skype contact – isncrit ou propose comme participans mais n’a pas accepté le contact skype avec café ottawa

: admiral (Philippines)  – shbeb  (?)-  barka ( senegal) – Carmen  (??) -  cheima ( tunisia)  – Julian  ( germany)-  Gabrielle  (canada) – hello  (??) – Maryce (nicarague) – Mikael ( finland) – Mwadhini tanzania ( wrote on the list)  -ahlem tunisia  -  tara  canada– Mohamed (Mauritania)  Fred (no skype)  - imtiaz (Pakistan)

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people's social forum in ottawa university campus -  le forum social des peuples sur le campus de l'université d'ottawa

plus de 5000 participants et 400 activités voir le programme

 

10/08

[10/08/2014 07:46:31] *** cafe ottawa a invité Chris Australia, Ghassen Tunisia, Janneth Colombia, Pierre ***

11/08

1-Chris – Pierre

[07:29:59] cafe ottawa: hello, bonjour, this is the first steps in the general conversation room of  wsf café ottawa

[07:30:43] Chris Australia: Hello, bonjour.  Chris in Adelaide. Australia

[07:30:45] cafe ottawa: ceci sont les premiers pas dans la salle de conversation générale du café FSM ottawa, ghassen is from tunisia   janeth is from colombia, there is some way to go still... il y a encore du chemin a faire

[07:32:14] Chris Australia: I have been in WSF conversation rooms before; Baghdad, Sarajevo ...

[07:32:48] cafe ottawa: welcome chris, next step will be to open the maling list of participants : http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/lists/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants

[07:33:46] Chris Australia: Hello Ottawa.  Or is this Pierre enroute?  Last time I encountered Pierre in Belgrade at midnight

2-Mailing List of participants_- la liste mail des participants

[07:34:05] cafe ottawa: la prochaine étape c'est ouvrir la liste des participants ici http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/lists/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants

[07:34:26] Chris Australia: Sounds great.

[07:34:32] cafe ottawa: you can send messages to wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants@lists.openfsm.net- vous pouvez envoyer des messags a  wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants@lists.openfsm.net

[07:35:05] Chris Australia: Will ghassen and janeth be there?

3 - Circulate info around you  - faites circuler l’info autour de vous

[07:35:46] cafe ottawa: another step would be that YOU circulate invitation around you : http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa    and that people fill the form and  gve their skype account

une autre étape c'est de circuler l'invitation autour de vous http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-fr etque les gens remplissent la fiche et donnent leur compte skype- you also can invite them directly from skype in this conversation room - in this case plase introduce them and give their email - vous pouvez aussi les inviter directeement via skype dans cette salle de conversation  dans ce cas donner leur email et présentez les un peu

[07:37:24] Chris Australia: I have noted seven activities that want extended, some Skype, some Google Hangouts

 [07:38:58] cafe ottawa: chirs you are mentionning  extension of some workshop in PSF program - visible here : http://openfsm.net/projects/canada-etand-fsmwsf/psfextension-list-extended-psf-fsp-activities

there is still some way to go here ; so far only the last workshop is really in a position to be extended

[07:39:45] cafe ottawa: you can as of now contact their skype account  adn say you want to participate also they have given the video link

[07:40:12] Chris Australia: I'm happy to 'linger' in this conversation space and pass on their details. Until the 21st?  Adelaide is Ottawa time plus 13:30 so I can pick up Europe, Asia, Africa.

[07:40:57] cafe ottawa: you are welcome Chris to be an active member of café team

4 -Invitation by Gustavo- invitation par Gustavo

[07:41:12] Chris Australia: I'm happy to do that for Skype extensions; starting with one ...

286   gcsfred+psf (en) gmail.com       Gustavo Canada ( public) Gustavo Frederico. No affiliation.     tools.    2. Communication    English / Anglais    Workshop / Atelier    August 22ndMorning / Matin Contact as of now our public skype account"live :gcsfredpsf "and be included in the workshop conversation room

[07:41:37] cafe ottawa: this the workshop which is fully ready for extension

[07:41:53] Chris Australia: I feel welcome already :)

[07:41:55] cafe ottawa: although it does not seem "gcsfredpsf@outlook.com" is a skype account

[07:42:54] cafe ottawa: so chris you are doubly welcome to contact them  they have also given a  public mail  gcfredpsf@outlook.com

[07:43:38] Chris Australia: I will do that, and get back to you via this space.

5 -Rename conversation room in your skype – renommer la sale de conversation dans votre skype

[07:43:43] cafe ottawa: thanks, we also advise that participants in this convesationn rename this conversation ( on top of the window) as ottawa wsf café general participation  and register it in their contacts

nous conseilons aussi que les participants a cette conversation la renomment ( en haut d ela fenetre)  " ottawa café fsm participation générale " et l'enregistrent dans leur contacts skype

[07:46:11] Chris Australia: Will look much more elegant than my page header is.: I can also update our Journal page http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-narrative

[07:47:58] cafe ottawa: that is the narrative for sarajevo , there is one starting for Ottawa http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-narrative

[07:48:35] Chris Australia: OK. I'll keep my eyes open for it

[07:48:44] cafe ottawa: ah er you are fast :) you already started editing it ..

[07:49:18] Chris Australia: Zarel from Mexico used to say that too ;): I can always slow down.  Quality is better than quantity.  How do you say in French, 'Less haste, less waste'?

[07:52:45] cafe ottawa: hmm i do not see any close equivalent at the moment

6- An old version of skype to be updated -Une vieille version de skype a mettre a jour -

[07:53:33] *** Pierre a invité Danny.RD Congo, Raphael Canada ***

[07:53:33] *** Danny.RD Congo doit mettre à jour Skype pour pouvoir participer à cette discussion. Aidez-le en le renvoyant à l'adresse skype.com/updateme. En savoir plus sur les nouveaux groupes de discussion. ***

[07:53:34] Pierre France: hello there

[07:53:44] Chris Australia: OK. I'm sure I'll stumble with French in next 2+ weeks hello pierre

 [07:54:29] Pierre France: hello chris

[07:54:56] *** Pierre a invité Sylvie Canada***

[07:55:14] Chris Australia: Already have a job to to, to contact gcsfred (above)

[07:57:09] Pierre France: yes that is a step by step build up , also do not hesitate to bring in interested people among your skype acquaintances

[07:57:33] Pierre France: ah btw

[07:58:26] Chris Australia: Will the coffee be as good as Sarajevo?

[07:59:44] Pierre France: well let us see...  in the priority list where coffee quality stands

7 -Event in Brisbane – evenement G20 a Brisbane australie

[07:59:46] Pierre France: http://openfsm.net/projects/espacios-oe/event2014-g99-assembly-brisbane

[07:59:58] Pierre France: this is something you may inquire about

it is coming from a report about natgat visible in the same pages

[08:00:25] Chris Australia: Raphael can return some of your European hospitality :D

 [08:01:12] Chris Australia: I have spotted Katharine's event in the calendar, G99%

[08:02:09] Pierre France: i have no clear idea of how many groups are involved in these events you may have more info

[08:03:05] Chris Australia: Her webpage is v. informative, and I may/may not have met her in June in Melbourne

[08:03:57] Pierre France: well more exhcange on this later, now i go off line .. :)

[08:04:12] Chris Australia: Sure.  Seen ou soon ...

[19:56:01] Pierre France: hello

[23:05:32] Chris Australia: hello Ottawa

12/08

[08:32:58] *** Pierre a invité Luciano Brasil , Jason Italy, Jenny Mexico, uddhab Nepal, Zarel ***

[08:48:36] cafe ottawa: a message was sent yesterday in the mailing ist  http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/lists/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants

[08:48:36] cafe ottawa: //

[08:50:10] Chris Australia: Thank you. Received & understood

13/08

1 -A Nepal sf this autumn – un forum social népalais cet automne

 [03:02:37] Uddhab Nepal: thanks

[03:03:51] Chris Australia: Hello uddhab

[03:05:55] Uddhab Nepal: hi how are u there?

[03:06:57] Chris Australia: I'm in Australia, and it's almost time for a morning coffee.  How about you?

[03:08:41] Chris Australia: Will you be attending psf in Ottawa?

[03:40:20] Uddhab Nepal: I wish sopls go ahead

[07:41:04] cafe ottawa: thank you for the confirmation uddhab -

[08:03:33] cafe ottawa: we look forward to your participation as you are  actively involved in Nepal social forum process  http://openfsm.net/projects/nepal-and-wsf

[12:59:19] Uddhab Nepal: yes

14/08

 1 - Imran – maher – eric  benin - zarel  mexico

 [00:22:24] *** cafe ottawa a invité Maher Egypt ***

[00:22:34] cafe ottawa: welcome Maher from egypt

[06:49:48] Pierre France: welcome maher

[14:40:59] Mahed Egypt: Thank you

[19:52:34] *** cafe ottawa a invité Imran Afghanistan***

[19:52:45] cafe ottawa: welcome Imran from afghanistan in wsf café http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/lists/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants/archive

 and  profile : http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants-list

[20:32:34] Imran Afghanistan: Thank you ( only one input ? why ?)

 [20:18:19] *** cafe ottawa a invité  Eric, Bénin ***

[20:18:26] cafe ottawa: bonjour eric du bénin bienvenu dans la salle de participation générale http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants-list

[20:19:23]  Eric, Bénin: Je suis heureux de participerà cet événement moins connu des zones très reculées de ma planète, Qui subissent contre vents et Marées des affres des multinationales De l'hégémonie des colons. Très heureux aussi de partager l'info autour de moi

[20:20:42] cafe ottawa: et nous de vous accueillir http://openfsm.net/projects/caravanes-fsm2011/project-home

 [20:35:54] Zarel Mexico: salut

[20:35:56]  Eric, Bénin: J'ai participé à la caravane bénin- Dakar sur les 3377km

[20:36:15]  Eric, Bénin: Salut zarel

[20:44:30] cafe ottawa: salut zarel du mexique

http://openfsm.net/projects/fsmmexx/fotos-comentadas-de-mexx

[20:47:37] Zarel Mexico: salut, hehehehe tu as vu les photos

[20:52:51] cafe ottawa: http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants-list

[20:53:00] cafe ottawa: qui est dans le café

[21:04:55]  Eric, Bénin: Je suis là Les photos mexicaines  sont magnifiques Bravo ! à la technique

2- PSF program -  Le programme FSP

[04:46:15] Chris Australia: PSF Official Programme released. http://static.squarespace.com/static/52faa83fe4b00ea56bbb527a/t/53ebd477e4b0a18f3ae26a60/1407964279213/Programme_FSP_French_web2.pdf  (49 pages) FR

http://static.squarespace.com/static/52faa83fe4b00ea56bbb527a/t/53eba18ee4b058ba6379706d/1407951246247/Program_psf_web_5.pdf   (48 pages) EN

Workshop listing commences p13

15/08

1 - Eric – chris – caravan Dakar 2011

[10:27:16]  Eric, Bénin: bonjour

[10:30:12] Chris Australia: bonjour ... hello  Eric from Benin .. this is Chris from Australia

[10:34:16]  Eric, Bénin: Thk Please can you write un french ?

[10:38:48] Chris Australia: Mal, mais je peux essayer :(

[10:40:06]  Eric, Bénin: Super

[10:43:56] Chris Australia: Vous étiez dans une caravane au Sénégal?( pour le forum dakar 2011)  J'ai rejoint ce forum FSM, étendu de l'Australie.

[10:45:57]  Eric, Bénin: Ah oui Je suis parti du bénin jusqu'au Sénégal

[10:47:11] Chris Australia: Senegal. Je me souviens que la connexion Internet était pauvre, mais j'ai quand même réussi à parler à des bénévoles. Et nous avons une connexion FSM-Extended avec le Zimbabwe en Afrique. Avez-vous fait le voyage sur la route pleine ... plus de 3700 kilomètres? Sensationnel ... Sont-ils de bons souvenirs de Bénin-Sénégal-Bénin?

[10:53:23]  Eric, Bénin: oui en bus

[10:53:24] Chris Australia: Mon français ... il est mauvais, pas compréhensible?

[10:54:30]  Eric, Bénin: ça va

[10:55:07] ***  Eric, Bénin envoie IMG_0131.JPG ***

[10:55:51] ***  Eric, Bénin envoie IMG_0209.JPG ***

[10:56:20] ***  Eric, Bénin envoie IMG_0276.JPG ***

[10:56:55] ***  Eric, Bénin envoie IMG_0296.JPG ***

 [11:01:45] Chris Australia: Sont ces photos de voyage en bus?

 [11:06:42]  Eric, Bénin: oui les moments forts

 [14:21:24]  Eric, Bénin: il y a quelqu'un?

 [14:25:05] Chris Australia: Hello, you can tell if any tokens (above) are green

[14:25:45]  Eric, Bénin: ok

[14:26:46] Chris Australia: D'autres pourraient arriver plus tard.

[14:27:44]  Eric, Bénin: j'ai pris bonne note

2 - Lopsiwa

[18:13:14] *** cafe ottawa a invité Juan Carlos Espana , Lopsiwa Cameroun ***

[18:13:45] cafe ottawa: bienvenue juan carlos de valencia y maraima du cameroun

[18:51:48] Lopsiwa Cameroun: merci a vous c'est gentil

[19:30:43] cafe ottawa: voici la liste des profil des participants mise a jour

http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants-list

vous pouvez voir qui est dans la salle ici  et faire des échanges avec certaines des personnes ou des échanges généraux sur la liste

here is the list of profile of participants  udapted

http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants-list 

you are welcome to see who is in the room and make exchange on a personal basis or with the general room

16/08

[01:46:31] uddhab pyakurel: English please

[16:18:03] *** cafe ottawa a invité Abdul  Canada , Joseph RD Congo***

[16:18:25] cafe ottawa: welcome abdul from canada, bienvenue joseph du congo

http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants-list

1-Indications to Imran

[16:54:33] cafe ottawa: hello Imran, can you see me writing  this ?

[16:54:51] Imran Afghanistan: Hello Yes

[16:55:09] cafe ottawa: ok this is the general participation room -you are welcome to rename it and register it as a contact in skype

[16:55:33] Imran Afghanistan: Thank you

[16:55:35] cafe ottawa: so you can find it easly : in the coming days

[16:56:15] Imran Afghanistan: Ok

[16:56:19] cafe ottawa: and you can contact individually some of the people here  - you see their profile in the particpant list cafe ottawa: http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants-list

so you can send them a message and propose to chat casually, also you can send a message in the participants mailing list :

[16:57:16] Imran Afghanistan: Ok

[16:57:25] cafe ottawa: wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants@lists.openfsm.net all the participants will receive it and can answer either to you or to the whole list

http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/lists/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants/membership also you can read the general invitation here : and explore the extended workshop possiblitieis

http://openfsm.net/projects/canada-etand-fsmwsf/psfextension-international-invitation-message

imran as participant you mainly connect on skype on evenings in afghanistan on days 21 24thaugust    the time difference with canada is maybe 9hours

[17:06:06] Imran Afghanistan: Ok thanx

2 - Invite skype friends in the room  -inviter des amis skype dans la salle

[17:07:46] cafe ottawa: also you can invite a few  people you know who are interested in world social forum to participte on skype  ( click on the + button above here and select them from your list of contacts)

[17:28:41] cafe ottawa  a invité Mustapha Marco , tafaoul13 Ali Iraq ***

17/08

[14:59:21] cafe ottawa a invité Fomum  Cameroun, DARYL CAMEROUN, Café ottawa, CATHERINE, MAROC, Roger RD Congo, Said, Egypt ***

[14:59:30] cafe ottawa: hello everyone bonjour a tous

[14:59:47] Chris Australia: hello Pensez-vous que beaucoup de gens ont commencé leurs voyages à Ottawa?

[14:59:53] cafe ottawa: bienvenue dans la salle de conversation du café ottawa

1 - Extended activity page  - la page des activités étendues depuis ottawa

[15:05:00] cafe ottawa: hello chrisyou are welcome to correct the dats and places in the extended activity page

http://openfsm.net/projects/canada-etand-fsmwsf/psfextension-list-extended-psf-fsp-activities  you have pointed out inconsistencies with the public shedule program, so you can edit the final slots and room there in the yellow underline on the right

[15:06:09] Chris Australia: Sure. I only checked the EN-Program, a bit limited to scan the FR-Programme I will change those I sent to you.  Also, many thanks for the Time Zone comparisons ... check this too am not sure of the time differences  :) where you have rostered Australia for the midnight-dawn shift!

[15:08:13] cafe ottawa: well ..yes

[15:08:30] Chris Australia: I can check this. but a good reckoner.  In Adelaide, we are Ottawa +13.5hrs Anyway, enjoy your Sunday ...

[15:18:29] Pierre France: hello Sylvie if you are on line please tell http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants-list this is the list of people having answered the invitation it is constantly updated

[15:19:58] *** Pierre a invité Toussaint Togo  ***

[15:24:13] Pierre France: (*)

[15:26:34] Chris Australia: Self-congratulation can lead to narcisism (*)

[15:27:36] cafe ottawa: to whom is this directed chris?

[15:27:48] Chris Australia: Hello Sylvie You missed Pierre by a whisker see above Monday is less than an hour away, so this is Australia signing off

[15:58:55] cafe ottawa: ok chris good night

[23:21:08]  Eric, Bénin: hello

[23:32:50] Chris Australia: hello eric

2 – PSF Official programme – le programme official FSP

[01:27:24] Chris Australia: The official PSF Program/Programme has been released; http://static.squarespace.com/static/52faa83fe4b00ea56bbb527a/t/53ebd477e4b0a18f3ae26a60/1407964279213/Programme_FSP_French_web2.pdf   (49 pages) FR

[01:28:00] Chris Australia: http://static.squarespace.com/static/52faa83fe4b00ea56bbb527a/t/53eba18ee4b058ba6379706d/1407951246247/Program_psf_web_5.pdf   (48 pages) EN

18/08

1 -Chris- Pierre

[14:39:24] cafe ottawa: hello everyone

[14:40:22] Chris Australia: good morning ottawa

[14:41:17] cafe ottawa: hello chris

[14:42:28] Chris Australia: Imran has been here for a while (silently) and I 'spoke' to Gustavo earlier on

[14:43:10] cafe ottawa: :) iwe have seen hour edits in http://openfsm.net/projects/canada-etand-fsmwsf/psfextension-list-extended-psf-fsp-activities

[14:44:59] cafe ottawa: anything wrong wiith last line 154 (15) ? I changed it to 454; otherwise OK

[14:46:46] cafe ottawa: ok

2 –Trying to help Ethel – essayant d’aider Ethel

[14:50:01] Chris Australia: Also exchange of emails with Ethel Canada(#70).  She has 2 Skype addresses.

[14:50:15] cafe ottawa: which is the public one ?

[14:50:48] Chris Australia: qdm.extension

[14:50:59] cafe ottawa: ok

[14:51:29] Chris Australia: I may have misled her, because she is a 1-person operation seeking assistance Could she use the other Skype link for video-streaming?  Will have no permanent record but ... ... but she hasn't got ustream, YouTube, etc

[14:53:21] cafe ottawa: not really this is not streaming  this will be video viewig by one person: first person wil be in video contact and others will not have access

[14:54:21] Chris Australia: The email exhange is on OpenFSM

[14:54:26] cafe ottawa: what you can do to help her is set up from scratch a video channel and hand it over to her :) tutorials are here : http://openfsm.net/projects/canada-etand-fsmwsf/psfextension-technical-info

[14:55:36] Chris Australia: That'll be a challenge - never done it b4 - but will give it a go (:|

[14:55:51] cafe ottawa: (clap)

3 –about Media in PSF – sur les medias au FSP

[15:01:25] Chris Australia: I have put in a Skype call to Tara & Paul (#454) from Council of Canadians.  They should have technical depth, except are out-of-towners from Toronto & Guelph(?)I have worked with CoC on water issues in the past, and Maude Barlow is an old (oops!) and good friend from Istanbul days. You may hear from AMARC people who will arrive on Wednesday.  They are mainly involved in Free Media assembly (Francesco) and would be good to get onto psf-Extended, if not too late?

[15:06:46] cafe ottawa: you may explain to them .. we shoul be neighbouring them in UCU301 on 23rd

[15:07:11] Chris Australia: Good.

[15:08:54] cafe ottawa: (shall make an input in your conversation with ethel ? announcing a possible channel coming from australia?)

[15:10:05] Chris Australia: Sure.  After I sleep  |-) (hug)

[15:10:16] cafe ottawa: ok any other contacts you can make are welcome!

[15:11:39] Chris Australia: OK.  Tomorrow will be a brand new day.  Although some may already be in transit? Do you have anything more for me, or I might call it a night?

4 -First two days of café  relying on chance and goodwill- s’en remettre au hasard et aux bonnes intentions pour les deux premiers jours du café

[15:14:31] cafe ottawa: sylvie is in ottawa but busy till 22 noon  - pierre arrives on 22 evening so first two days in the cafe will be relying on goodwill to come and  stimulation from afar  ( including australia and paris

[15:15:43] Chris Australia: I have faith in goodwill of others to help out, but I won't make 'Grand Opening" promises for WSF Cafe

[15:15:43] cafe ottawa: location of cafe will be toggling between UCU and people square depending skype accessiblilty from the square http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-plan of course we do not either :) but the current participant list is promising

[15:16:43] Chris Australia: If you get video from Square, it will have international appeal.

[15:16:54] cafe ottawa: http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants-list

[15:17:57] cafe ottawa: we will try but that might come late , so inner communication in this partciaption skype romm will be a concrete possiblity in any case

[15:18:08] Chris Australia: I'm a Naomi Klein fan :)

[15:18:21] cafe ottawa: she is on thurzday 1pm : but maybe she whill be broadcasted by rabble.ca check this webiste for television

[15:18:40] Chris Australia: already in the diary Will do.  Have to whet the general Aussie appetite somehow.  They take a bit of effort to get them started ..... once started, sometimes have to tone down their enthusiasm.  We've got a G20 on soon, like you had in Toronto a while back.

5 -Café wsf Brisbane in november? Un café fsm a Brisbane en novembre

[15:23:11] cafe ottawa: well they might want to rally people from row on line  during this G20

[15:24:37] Chris Australia: If WSF had to, sure we could organise an impromptu meet ...... although Katherine from NatGat has an event in the WSF calendar for November.

[15:25:38] cafe ottawa: yes that is part of the loose linkage inside wsf process calendar

[15:26:13] Chris Australia: Works very well, and we're only starting to learn how well.I see we have Nadia in our group, she was a mainstay at the Iraq Social Forum

[15:27:49] cafe ottawa: thanks for the positive feedback , if a group wants to prepare this creating /using a space in openfsm.. welcome

[15:28:08] cafe ottawa: she s been invited as she has experience of sarejvo ..

[15:30:11] Chris Australia: She is really great in smoothing out 'behind the scenes' issues.  Hope she doesn't mind me saying so. I've noted to 'hold the fort' during your/Pierre's absence on 21st. Is there anything else?

[15:31:48] cafe ottawa: so far nothing thanks for holding : fresher news will be forward on the lmailing list forwarded

[15:32:33] Chris Australia: No problems.  Signing off from 'DownUnder' Australia (wave)

[15:33:01] cafe ottawa: (wave)

6 -Gustvao arrival- Arrivée de Gustavo Ottawa

[16:46:50] *** cafe ottawa a invité Gustavo Canada ***

[16:47:07] cafe ottawa: welcome gustavo in the cafe general participation room

[16:47:55] Gustavo Canada: Thank you

[16:47:57] cafe ottawa: http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants-list

[16:48:44] Gustavo Canada: Yes - you are all welcome to attend my workshop on Internet Security for Activists - Friday 22nd 9 AM Ottawa time - Gustavo here

[16:48:58] cafe ottawa: Gutavo is an extensionner in ottawa  see his workshop here  line  6  http://openfsm.net/projects/canada-etand-fsmwsf/psfextension-list-extended-psf-fsp-activities  : wiht a contact skype and a video channel

[18:27:57] Said, Egypt: hello

[18:31:51] uddhab pyakurel: yes

[00:46:02] Chris Australia: Telecast of PSF Opening proceedings announced, http://rabble.ca/rabbletv/program-guide/2014/08/features/watch-live-thurdsay-aug-21-psf2014-opening-ceremony-naomi-kl

19/08

1 -INdications to Abdazez

[10:34:04] *** cafe ottawa a invité Abdazez Syria, Joseph,  Haiti ***

[11:58:29] cafe ottawa: hello everone updated list of participants here :

[11:59:40] Abdazez Syria: hello wellcom m.r

[12:00:31] Chris Australia: Hello abdazez, this is Chris from Australia

 [12:01:55] cafe ottawa: extension of PSF : http://openfsm.net/projects/canada-etand-fsmwsf/psfextension-list-extended-psf-fsp-activities

[12:02:34] Abdazez Syria: i am sorry i need to know mor what i can hellp in jordon

[12:02:35] Chris Australia: Sylvie, this list of participants didn't come through

[12:03:11] cafe ottawa: what do you mean?

[12:03:13] Chris Australia: It is great to have Jordan as part of this week's events

[12:03:14] cafe ottawa: http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants-list

[12:03:30] Chris Australia: thanks

[12:04:02] cafe ottawa: well abdazaez you are here to participate :Basically wsf cafe is a place for informal encounters between people in Ottawa and people abroad through skype. encounters are not by appointment but based on mutual availability, in ottawa, and around the word,  within a group of preregistered participants

[12:04:27] Chris Australia: Have you participated before on World Social Forum events from Jordan?

[12:05:08] cafe ottawa: so if you stay connected in skype on days 21 24 august you have a good chance to talk with people in ottawa and also talk with other intenational participants from the list

that is what particiaption in the cafe makes possible not more and not less, the number of talks depends on your presence on line during those days also you can follow some livestreams or participate in extended worskhops

[12:06:22] Chris Australia: I am pleased that Gustavo will be in WSFCafe on 21st

[12:06:31] cafe ottawa: so are we :)

2 -Alternate media and wsf café idea – les medias alternatives et l’idée du café fsm

[12:07:41] Chris Australia: I learned that Imane from e-joussour will be at the Media Centre from 20th, and could visit WSF Cafe

[12:08:23] Chris Australia: Involved with Alternative Media Movement Assembly on 24th

[12:08:41] cafe ottawa: she is welcome ,  assmebly is extended as line 9 in the table here  http://openfsm.net/projects/canada-etand-fsmwsf/psfextension-list-extended-psf-fsp-activities  which is also updated with live stream media info (yellow table)

[12:09:37] Chris Australia: Great.  Did you see the rabble.ca info above?

[12:11:02] cafe ottawa: it is in the yellow table i suppose

[12:14:56] Chris Australia: When you rang, I was about to xreference the 8 workshops + 3 assemblies that 99% Media are streaming, against our Jul25 list of activities.  Would their Activity# and Program page# be useful?

[12:16:50] cafe ottawa: they could be added in a compact way adding lines in the yellow table, keeping them separate as they are a  diffeent process less ocused on allowing participation. we have no indication that they provide participation channel and do not know about how the organizers of those workshops are involved  in the live streaming

[12:18:21] Chris Australia: Sure. I'll think about it (wait) I set up the streaming channel I mentioned 'day for activity #70 ... If you hear from Ethel, can you let her know?  I have her p/word, when needed

[12:21:08] cafe ottawa: have seen your message to extensioners list, :-)you can also make a persnal message

[12:22:03] Chris Australia: OK.  I've also put a call to her personal skype, if she encounters uncertainties in the next few days

[12:26:17] cafe ottawa: so now you are a self taiught  livestreamer http://openfsm.net/projects/canada-etand-fsmwsf/psfextension-technical-info

[12:28:18] Chris Australia: subject to customer approval rating, (y)

3 –Roger Congo – Eric Benin  - Lopsiwa Cameroun

[14:53:50] Roger RD Congo: Bonjour Heureux de vous retrouver

[15:26:43]  Eric, Bénin: Bonjour Eh ben là je retrouve un francophone  (handshake)

[15:30:05] Lopsiwa Cameroun: bonjour je suis tout de meme heureuse de partager avec un francophone

[15:30:30]  Eric, Bénin: Bonjour mairama Skype dans  skype

[15:30:51] Lopsiwa Cameroun: alors commenttu vas eric

[15:31:00]  Eric, Bénin: Francophone anglophone

[15:31:02] Lopsiwa Cameroun: eh oui

[15:31:07]  Eric, Bénin: Je vais super bien

[15:31:10] Lopsiwa Cameroun: hahahahaha

[15:31:25]  Eric, Bénin: Et de ton côté ? Ça roule?

[15:31:32] Lopsiwa Cameroun: moi c'est franco anglo hispanophone jene me plainspas ppur l'instant tu es a Ottawa en ce moment?

[15:33:42] Roger RD Congo: Francophone que je suis , je m'estime heureux de rencontrer d'autres francophones avec qui je suis heureux d'échanger

[15:34:11]  Eric, Bénin: Non au bénin J'espère bien tu sais bien à quoi ressemble mon pays Je suis béninois et je réside au bénin

[15:40:49]  Eric, Bénin: Slt Roger

[15:42:12] Roger RD Congo: salut cher ami Eric

[15:43:03]  Eric, Bénin: Waooh le français commence par prendre le dessus  (flex)

[15:43:51] Roger RD Congo: c'est vrai mais que le forum  social surplante tout !

 [15:45:37] Lopsiwa Cameroun: ah ok enchantée moi je suis camerounaise je n'ai jamais étéau bénin mais je pense y faire un tour

[15:47:08]  Eric, Bénin: Crois moi tu seras pas deçue

[15:47:58] Lopsiwa Cameroun: ok,merci d'avance,c'est gentil de ta part

[15:48:47]  Eric, Bénin: Igigigig Quoi de neuf sur les luttes dans ton pays Moi je t'apprends que je suis le représentant du mouvement des sans voix (No-vox) au benin Qui mène des luttes sociales no-vox.org

[15:52:34] Lopsiwa Cameroun: waouh c'est magnifique sa

[15:54:54]  Eric, Bénin: Oui beaucoup de peuple ignore leur droit et systématiquement ça profite aux dirigeants, multinationaux, partisans de moindres Il est temps que le peuple soit informé et réclame son droit Plusieurs accords internationaux son signés sans leur consentement, ratifiés sans qu'ils en profitent Le peuple ne peut plus payer à leur placeDes gens soient disant dirigeants se maintiennent au pouvoir sous la pression. Des colonisateurs et on nous défend de ne pas en parler.Le peuple est brisé sur son propre droit sans force il recule. Mon peuple périt faute de connaissances et il en a le droit

[17:34:42] uddhab pyakurel: (y)

[18:33:26] Joseph,  Haiti: hello i am Joe Mercilus from Haiti work in the social i need other oganization to work togerther ith me

[19:20:21] cafe ottawa: bonjour a tous  - hello everybody

[19:21:38] *** cafe ottawa a invité Julie Canada, Muhanna Iraq K***

[19:22:08] cafe ottawa: it is good to see you chatting  - c'est bon de vous voir clavarder http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants-list

4 –Contact with Julie who wants to extend her workshop  - Contact avec Julie qui veut étendre son atelier

now 27 people in the gneeral participation room, also julie who is extending her workshop in Ottawa http://openfsm.net/projects/canada-etand-fsmwsf/psfextension-list-extended-psf-fsp-activities  line 2

[19:35:35] cafe ottawa: hello Julie :)

[19:36:12] Julie Canada: Boozhoo! Hope to meet you on Saturday !

[19:36:44] cafe ottawa: so do we ... you may meet gustavo on thursday and friday if you drop by media center,gustavo is also extedning line 6 workshop

[19:37:30] Julie Canada: Nice! And I am still looking for a chat/video volunteer

[19:38:54] cafe ottawa: well Gustavo will be in the registration booth on thursday and he MIGHT be instrumental in finding someone to help you

[19:42:17] Julie Canada: Meegwetch for the cue :)

[19:42:42] cafe ottawa: you are welcome maybe you can fill the wsf café participation form : http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants-list see top of the page

5 – possible Local activity in Jordan ?- une possible activité locale en Jordanie

[19:46:08] Abdazez Syria: I need a chat room connected with the Forum Video from Jordan will be representatives from the civil society organizations were present with us to manage the dialogue on our role in the protection of racial and ethnic minorities in the wars and the rejection of religious extremism and ethnic

[19:48:30] cafe ottawa: well abulzaez  you can extend this activity from jordan if you want  please give a public skype contact and also a video channel and a short presentation  of the activity in jordan  and it will be displayed in the list  here : http://openfsm.net/projects/canada-etand-fsmwsf/psfextension-list-extended-psf-fsp-activities   so please fill the form here : https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1qS4GG7naeX9mGkcYyuh8A9PrUs6ET5sSmav9Ys6B06M/viewform

[19:51:40] Abdazez Syria: This is very good, I would be ready on Thursday, I hope that you set me timing and duration granted me Yours Sincerely

[19:52:04] cafe ottawa: what you are doing can be  called a local activity in jordan  on occasion of social forum in Canada, we are not granting anything except visiblity in the list then people can make contact with you on skype and particiapte in your activity

[19:57:25] Abdazez Syria: This is enough to convey an image of reality and cooperate together to change for the better I'm sorry to prolong

[19:58:34] cafe ottawa: please fill the form  extending our activity

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1qS4GG7naeX9mGkcYyuh8A9PrUs6ET5sSmav9Ys6B06M/viewform

 [20:00:51] Abdazez Syria: ok

6 – Indicaiton for Haiti – fill participation form - Indications pour Joseph Haiti – remplir le formulaire de participation

[21:11:37] cafe ottawa: bonjour Joseph,  Haiti vous etes la ?

[21:12:51] Joseph,  Haiti: oui je suis la en direct depuis en haiti

[21:12:57] cafe ottawa: parfait !voila maintenant je vous conseille de cliquer sur le nom de la salle en haut de cete fentre et de lui redonner le nom  ottawa café fsm  et de l'enreigtrer dans vos contacts de façon a pouvoir la retrouver facilement. dans cette salle se trouvent la plupart des personnees dont vous voyez le profil ici http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants-list  mais vous meme avez vous rempli le formulaire de participaiton  https://docs.google.com/forms/d/16CWRrCsnjC_ugftEoHfDItaQB0vdaP-ZUJA94hf02GQ/viewform  si vous ne l'avez pas fait c'est le moment

[21:15:12] Joseph,  Haiti: ah ok Haiti: je ne pas encore remplir le formulaire

[21:15:53] cafe ottawa: eh bien allez y :)

[22:53:48] Joseph,  Haiti: ok je vu le formulaire je vais le remplir mais j'aimerais vous poser une petite question est ce que si j'aimerais aller pour participer dans le forum a ottawa

 

7 – Gustavo for Julie

[21:33:38] Gustavo Canada: Hi / Bonjour - it's Gustavo here from Ottawa, Canada.

[21:33:57] cafe ottawa: hello Giustavo http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants-list  27 international participants and more to come

[21:35:51] Gustavo Canada: fnmipedago, if you are looking for volunteers to help with chat and/or streaming here in Ottawa,  I suggest that you email volunteer.psf2014@gmail.com which is the central email of volunteers and say that you are a workshop presenter, that you are looking for one or 2 volunteers to help with the video streaming + Skype chat for WSF extension.As Pierre said, I'll be at the registration tables Thursday morning and I'll be in and out at the Media Centre English ,Frençais, Español or Português

 [23:54:47] Gustavo Canada: Gustavo here from PSF in Ottawa - I'm testing livestream feel free to join: https://new.livestream.com/accounts/9527600/events/3257381

[22:45:04] Muhanna Iraq K: hi every one

20/08

[00:01:45] Luciano Brasil : Working on an Android device -  4g connection. Best of luck Too much background noise tho

1-     Question skype  and powerpoint

[05:43:25] Chris Australia: I was asked this question by the presenter of Workshop #70, line 10 of Activity List ... 'Can i Project ppt and at thé same Time be connected on skype?'  They have a Mac, to make life interesting.  I gave an answer, hopefully not the wrong one (yn)

[05:48:02] Gustavo Canada: Thanks for the feedback, Luciano Brasil . We were testing in another location - it will be much better Friday morning at the Forum. Obrigado

2 -Round of invitations to wsf café on international lists- tour ‘invitation au café sur listes internationales

[11:17:15] cafe ottawa: salut a last round of inviation has been just sent accross mailing lists

3 -Alternate media and wsf café

[11:27:13] Chris Australia: hello Great.  I have a question ... the alternative media people plan to visit WSF Cafe right on opening tomorrow, 10am 21st.  Have you heard?

[11:31:34] *** cafe ottawa a invité Ethel Canada***

[11:31:35] cafe ottawa: yes i have, seems a bit early .. need time to set things up , and i all relies on gustavo's shoulder who is also at the registartion desk

[11:32:08] Chris Australia: AMARC hascalled the meeting, and I see they have their own workshop #307. Not sure when scheduled, and they probably have own means to video record workshop events.  Has AMARC approach WSF people about running as a PSF-Extended event?

[11:33:30] cafe ottawa: no i guess proximity between media center and wsf cafe will help understanding, i have seen you communication effort on the fmml-tunis list

[11:34:41] Chris Australia: It won't be too late to run as an Extended event, though, if they ask? Great, about being across fmml-tunis.

[11:35:51] cafe ottawa: what can be done is updating the page

4 - Chris – ethel

[11:36:01] Chris Australia: I'm pleased to see Ethel in the Cafe space.  I had a chat with her late last night, before she went to sleep.

http://openfsm.net/projects/canada-etand-fsmwsf/psfextension-list-extended-psf-fsp-activities

[11:36:38] Chris Australia: Sure

5 -Explain where the skype conversation room is  ! expliquer ou trouver la sale de conversation dans skype

[11:37:09] cafe ottawa: chirs  what you can very usefully do is  call each person individually and explain where the covnersation room is. some participants have not spotted the conversation room, so they are in the blue

yesterday i spoke with Joseph,  Haiti from haiti who found the room, and okito from camerou who did not find it

[11:38:29] Chris Australia: I saw that with Joseph,  Haiti. Good

[11:39:00] cafe ottawa: so any person who has not made an input in the general conversation room can be approached, also the participant maiiling list is very calm ... (maybe people are more on facebook than mailing lists...)

[11:40:10] Chris Australia: I have a log of all these Skype chats, so should be each to highlight those who haven't yet fronted. I could call them individually, yes?

[11:40:38] cafe ottawa: sure there is the mailiing list log http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/lists/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants

[11:41:04] cafe ottawa: no comments :)

6 -Local event from jordan- une activité locale en jordanie

[11:42:23] Chris Australia: Sure.  I had a chat with Abas today, wasn't sure whether he's in Cayman Is or Syria.  Pretty convinced his local event will be from Jordan, probably with other refugees

[11:42:48] cafe ottawa: that is also what i understand ...

[11:43:45] Chris Australia: Great.  Many of the quit ones are on Africa, Asia, Middle East time.  So it's easier for me than for Ottawa :) quiet ones Many are Francophiles, so will be encouraged to practice on Canadians ...

[11:45:34] cafe ottawa: yes ... that is why you can do some teaching about finding the conversation room and about naming the conversation room and registering it as a contact

ton francais est très bon

[11:46:31] Chris Australia: I need to consult my Google Translate assistant ... (wait) Sans avertissement, mon français est très lent

7 – welcoming soufiane who went directly to skype  - Accueil de Soufiane venu directement dans skype

[11:47:16] *** cafe ottawa a invité Soufiane Maroc ***

[11:47:21] cafe ottawa: bonjour soufiane! bienvenue dans la salle générale du café fsm ottawa d'ou etes vous ?

[11:47:42] Soufiane Maroc: Bonjour du Maroc

[11:47:59] cafe ottawa: très bien avez vous rempli le formulaire de participation ?

[11:48:35] Soufiane Maroc: je suis entrain de le remplir

 [11:49:18] cafe ottawa: ici c'estt la salle générale ou se trouvent les 30 participants il y a aussi une liste courriel http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/lists/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants/membership

[11:50:03] Soufiane Maroc: j'arrive pas à acceder au formulaire https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1H9CQo_W4-DMsGGOzSPtX8QlifN%20-FNvxZJsAzrkGEFk8/viewform

[11:50:26] cafe ottawa: ah? Voice le bon lien

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/16CWRrCsnjC_ugftEoHfDItaQB0vdaP-ZUJA94hf02GQ/viewform  essayez celui-ci  (sur quelle page avez vous trouvé ce lien qui ne marche pas? )

[11:51:59] Soufiane Maroc: sur le mail que j'ai reçu ok parfait

[11:52:16] cafe ottawa: ah... c'est ennuyeux.. ce mail vous l'avez reçu aujourd'hui ?? http://openfsm.net/projects/maghreb-fsm/lists/maghreb-fsm-discussion/archive

[12:03:00] Soufiane Maroc: oui tout à fait

[12:03:32] cafe ottawa: ah .. en fait c'est l'avant dernier message qui est le bon le code correct pour la participation est celui ci : https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1H9CQo_W4-DMsGGOzSPtX8QlifN-FNvxZJsAzrkGEFk8/viewform

[12:06:30] cafe ottawa: il y a un blanc %20 dans l'url

[12:09:45] Soufiane Maroc: ok c'est bon

[12:11:15] cafe ottawa: c'est pour vous rajouter ici :

[12:11:30] cafe ottawa: http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants-list

[12:11:56] Soufiane Maroc: c'est quoi votre prenom dejà ?

[12:12:42] cafe ottawa: ici c'est le groupe extension canada  sylvie pierre

[12:12:57] Soufiane Maroc: enchanté

[12:13:13] Pierre France: bonjour soufiane

[12:13:22] Soufiane Maroc: bonjour pierre

[12:13:55] cafe ottawa: soufiane onne voit pas arriver votre formulaire ... :|

8 - Muhana iraq  proposing a skype encounter as done in Egypt – Mushanna propse une tele conference collective comme fait en égypte

[12:13:54] Muhanna Iraq K: hi anyone speak arabic ?

[12:14:34] cafe ottawa: la

[12:14:52] Muhanna Iraq K: mmm

[12:15:05] cafe ottawa: hello muhanna from iraq

[12:15:17] Muhanna Iraq K: hello yea

[12:15:54] cafe ottawa: muhanna could you fill the participation form :

[12:16:03] Muhanna Iraq K: no because i cant understand it

[12:16:34] cafe ottawa: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/16CWRrCsnjC_ugftEoHfDItaQB0vdaP-ZUJA94hf02GQ/viewform

[12:16:36] cafe ottawa: ah !

[12:18:07] Muhanna Iraq K: in  Alexandria Forum, we made direct contact via Skype Alexandria between youth and the youth of Kirkuk in Iraq and it was very wonderful, cultural exchange in several topics

[12:18:46] cafe ottawa: which alexandria forum ( if i may ask...)  yes skype tele encounters can be very nice

[12:19:07] Muhanna Iraq K: Can we do that between Canada's youth and the youth of Iraq? Direct encounter via Skype

[12:19:44] Muhanna Iraq K: mr. piere made it

[12:20:15] cafe ottawa: we may not have video projector  so  it can be done but in a causal way and in small group

[12:20:29] cafe ottawa: are you talking ismailia forum in egypt?

[12:20:39] cafe ottawa: or baghdad forum in iraq?

[12:20:43] Muhanna Iraq K: ooooo yes yes  Ismailia :) : Mr. Pierre was the coordinator in ismailia forum, and we had a video call via Skype

[12:23:31] cafe ottawa: http://openfsm.net/projects/egyptian-social-forum-for-youth-2013/project-home  And : http://openfsm.net/projects/egyptian-social-forum-for-youth-2013/esfy-extension-telemeeting-activities-schedule

this time there is no percise schedule in the café, it will be upon mutual availabiity

[12:27:22] Muhanna Iraq K: ok

[12:28:31] cafe ottawa: so if you are often connected during 21 24 late at night and with some 2 /3 people with you you may have converstaion with young canadians participating in ottawa forum

[12:29:26] Muhanna Iraq K: ok if i can

9 -Task of Checking skype inclusion  of participants– la tache de verifier l’inclusion skype des particpants

[12:59:53] Chris Australia: Checking I have assessed the xcheck task correctly.26 participants listed on OpenFSM.  35 Skype participants in WSF Cafe General participatio (here) ...

[13:02:49] cafe ottawa: 26 have filled the form

[13:02:49] Chris Australia: ... and 5 of the 13 PSF-Extended workshop organisers already listed here. I wouldn't expect them all, as some will have only their public Skype name when their workshop convenes.  OK so far?

[13:02:58] Chris Australia: yes

[13:03:03] cafe ottawa: yes

[13:03:55] Chris Australia: I'm on the correct track.  I will report progress from time-to-time.

[13:06:45] cafe ottawa: (cool)

[13:20:44]  Eric, Bénin: Bsr

[14:02:38] Fomum  Cameroun: hello

[14:04:49] Chris Australia: hello bishonda.  This is Chris in Australia

10 - Ethel – Chris (2)

[14:05:26] Ethel Canada: Hi Ethel from Canada

[14:06:04] Chris Australia: Hello Ethel.  Recovered after the late night?

[14:06:56] Ethel Canada: Yes préparing my workshop and you you did ont stop Working? Hope you have a great Day

[14:07:29] Chris Australia: It was productive.  Is it far from your home to PSF site? Are you in transit today?

[14:08:24] Ethel Canada: No i am at 1:30 drivons distance si i am leaving tomorrow But i registeted on livestream

[14:09:18] Chris Australia: I saw the registration.  Did it go smoothly? Wishing safe and speedy travels tomoz

[14:09:45] Ethel Canada: Thanks where are you? Un ittawa already

[14:10:40] Chris Australia: No.  I'm providing midnight-dawn coverage from Australia.  Is it dawn yet?

[14:12:21] Chris Australia: ntw. I saw Sylvie log on a moment ago, and I have some 'work' to do yet

[14:12:57] Chris Australia: Is Bishonda still there?

11 -Checking skype inclusion  (2)

[14:14:22] Chris Australia: Sylvie, do you want the good news?Of the 26 participants, we have not yet heard from Abdul, Maryce, Rachid, Joseph and Fred; all of whom expect to be in Ottawa for the PSF event.

: You have 18 people who have Skype-connected to this General Participation so far, so we/they should be available to assist with PSF-Extended duties over the next 4 days.

There are 10 OpenFSM participants who we haven't heard from on Skype yet, and I will try to contact them to raise a commitment from them.

In addition, there are 9 general participants in WSF Cafe (here) who are not listed in OpenFSM as participants - does that mean we are waiting on their forms?  I can contact them to expedite.

Finally, there are 10 general participants in WSF Cafe that we haven't yet heard from.  I think Pierre added them on strength of past WSFCafe participations.  Since they haven't yet Skyped in, and we haven't got their forms, I'll await Pierre's arrival for advice.  Do you agree?

12 - Gustavo- Chris

[15:52:54] Gustavo Canada: hi, Chris Is there anything I can help with here in Ottawa?Gustavo F. here -

[15:54:08] Chris Australia: Hello Gustavo, nice to hear

[15:54:34] Gustavo Canada: I plan on printing some business cards with the WSF Café info on it and leave them at the Media Centre

I also plan to hand over some of these cards during registration early morning tomorrow so that there will be more participation of the general attendees from here in Ottawa

frankly, the wiki pages with the Café info don't look very intuitive - there is lots of text

[15:56:00] Chris Australia: Around 10am tomoz, you can expect AMARC to convene an impromptu group for the Alternative Media Movement Assembly at the WSF Cafe.

[15:56:09] Gustavo Canada: ok 10am what timezone?

[15:57:00] Chris Australia: I'll operate Ottawa time, if OK by you? They come from the next-door media centre, so will be your neighbours

[15:57:09] Gustavo Canada: ok - good

[15:58:14] Chris Australia: re wili pages. Sylvie has tried to work through with some who encountered Forms difficulties (above)

[15:58:27] Gustavo Canada: ok- be right back -

[15:58:41] Chris Australia: wiki pages. Yup OK

13 -Julie

 [17:07:22] Julie Canada: Hi, just set up my livestream @fnmipedago and Youtube Channel, still looking for 2 volunteers for chat+video on Saturday pm. Thx! (yn) julie vc here

14 - Gustavo simpler invitation to the café  - l’invitation plus simple de gustvao au café

[17:23:13] Gustavo Canada: I created an invitation slide here:

http://tinyurl.com/WSFCafeFSMOttawa  to the WSF Café Ottawa.I think this one is a bit cleanerPlease tweet the URL with hashtag #PSF2014

[01:37:51] cafe ottawa: the slide is nice :)

15 - Abdazez

[19:29:10] Abdazez Syria: hi to anybody

[19:29:59] Abdazez Syria: please what tim in otawa now?

[19:57:35] Gustavo Canada: Hi, it's 1:57pm in Ottawa now

[19:59:16] Abdazez Syria: thank you

[20:25:39] Zarel Mexico: hi, how it goes?

[23:28:24] Chris Australia: Hello Sylvie

[01:42:52] *** cafe ottawa a invité Miloud Maroc, Mohamed Egypt***

[01:51:03] cafe ottawa: http://openfsm.net/projects/canada-etand-fsmwsf/psfextension-list-extended-psf-fsp-activities

bienvenue   miloud mohamed olfa

http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants-list

16 - Tomorrow café is starting – le café commence demain

[02:58:23] cafe ottawa: Hello  Bonjour

 Janneth, Ghassen, Danny , Kashif, Roger, Danny , Imran, Said, Eric, Pauline, Maraima, Maryc , Imtiaz, Charfeddine, Catherine, Rachid, Joseph, Mwadhini, Miloud, Mikael, Abdulazeez , fred, Julian, Hassan , Cheima, Barka, Olfa, Mohamed, Gustavo, Chris Sylvie, Pierre and those who will step in wsf café in ottawa

english

tomorrow the café is starting - Gustavo  and sylvie will be in ottawa , chirs in australia, Pierre in france to facilitate conversation

pllease check the time difference  and be connected more than usual, you can be called by ottawa any time when we have ottawa participants willing to talk with whoever is available

also you can chat talk with someone else from the room, chris showed some of you to find the conversation room  where you can contact other partiicpants

you can bel called by either wsfcafefsm.ottawa  or wsfcafefsm.ottawa2, if necessary wsfcafefsm.ottawa3 or a personal skype of someone in ottawa

francais

demain le café fsm ottawa commence -  Gustavo et sylvie  seront a ottawa, Chris en autralie  Pierre  en france  pour faciliter les  conversation

vérifiez le décalage horaire avec ottawa, et restez connecté plus que d'habitude si possible vous pouvez etre appelés par ottawa quand un participant se présent a ottawa et souhaite parler avec qui est disponible

aussi vous pouvez parler entre vous - chris vous a aidé a trouver la salle de conversation skype ou vous pouvez contacter les autres participants

vous pouvez etre appelés par wsfcafefsm.ottawa ou wsfcafefsm.ottawa2 si nécessaire wsfcafefsm.ottawa3 ou le skype personnel de quelqu'un a ottawa

[03:00:16] Mohamed Egypt: [jeudi 21 août 2014 03:29] cafe ottawa:

 

<<< Hello..every one

17 - Janeth

 [03:04:35] Janneth Colombia: Hola

[03:04:58] cafe ottawa: hola janneth bienvenida manana comienza el café

puedes invitar personas que estan interesadas en el fsm ( nada mas pulsar el + y agregar mas gente y selectarlas desde tus contactos)

[03:06:48] cafe ottawa: acabamos de enviar un mensaje en la lista de correo de participantes en el café

somos mas de 30 en la sala de varios continentes

Janneth, Ghassen, Danny , Kashif, Roger, Danny , Imran, Said, Eric, Pauline, Maraima, Maryc , Imtiaz, Charfeddine, Catherine, Rachid, Joseph, Mwadhini, Miloud, Mikael, Abdulazeez , fred, Julian, Hassan , Cheima, Barka, Olfa, Mohamed, Gustavo, Chris Sylvie, Pierre

and those who will step in wsf café in ottawa

http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants-list

http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/lists/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants/membership

muchos con presencia activa en el proceso

[03:17:31] Janneth Colombia: Gracias voy a estar pendiente, voy a intentar que otras compañeras participen

[03:18:37] cafe ottawa:  seria muy bien  ( has recibido la invitation por correo hoy no es cierto ? que vino por la lista fsm-extendido?)

[03:19:57] Janneth Colombia:  Siiii

 

18 - Mohamed from Egypt about topics- avec Mohamed sur les sujets de discussion

[03:00:33] cafe ottawa: hello mohamed welcome

[03:01:42] Mohamed Egypt: welcom >> iam  happy  to  join  your  conversation

[03:02:51] cafe ottawa: thank you... in the next four days we hope you will be able to talk with several ottwa participants as well as wtih several poeple in htis room

http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants-list

http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/lists/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants/membership

 [03:11:38] Mohamed Egypt: i want to know

What are the main topics that will be discussed in the Community

[03:11:53] cafe ottawa: there is no preselected topic, it depends on the people calling you from ottawa

[03:12:22] cafe ottawa: or the people calling you from this room this is in the frame of small group conversations.. it is also possible to set up a topic in this room if a lot of people agree or to create  a pad to develop a wirtten converstaion  supported by a audio call around it  withouth being intrusive to this general conversation

many possbilities ...

pads are available here : https://pad.riseup.net/

some participants have already listed topics of interest in their profile :

http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants-list

and ottawa participants ( coming physically in the cafe place in ottawa will add theirs

 [03:19:41] Mohamed Egypt: we can suggest some topics that support the economic and social rights

mohamed we can set up a page with the topics you want to talk about

http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-topics

[03:28:30] Mohamed Egypt: i have a question about what is the language that we will talk in voice conversation together, i mean we should talk english or we can talk arabic

the language can be what is understood by the people participating in the voice or written convesation  - so it depends who you are talking with

[in the participants list hyou have indication of who speaks what

then most people in ottawa will speak english  or French and some may be speaking arabic

19 - second account wsf café – un dueixème compte pour le café

[03:30:42] *** cafe ottawa a invité café ottawa2 ***

[03:30:57] cafe ottawa: now introducing a second account wsfcafefsm .ottawa2

[03:31:04] Janneth Colombia: Me parece bien

[03:31:39] cafe ottawa2: hello !

[03:31:55] cafe ottawa: this will help when there is more than one conversation in the café ah we need to change the name .... :)  a bit

[03:33:08] Mohamed Egypt: yes  thats  agreat  idea >>  that  can  help  all  of  us

[03:34:13] café ottawa2: well we have changed the name a bit now you see wsfcafefsm 2

[03:34:30] Mohamed Egypt: :)

[03:40:16] café ottawa2: and we are asking contact with each of you with this second account

20 – invitation Input in participants  mailing list ? invitation a des apports sur la liste des participants

[03:48:46] cafe ottawa: would anyone make a gentle input in the mailing  list :  wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants@lists.openfsm.net, so far it is only the organizers writing messages, and participats can also use the lst, now disconnecting for some sleepl

21 - Gustavo-zarel

[05:00:24] Gustavo Canada: It's all looking good so far - we begin tomorrow morning here in Ottawa

[05:28:36] Zarel Mexico: hi there, i’m zarel from mexico,

is there a schedule for the conversations?

[05:29:24] Gustavo Canada: Hola, Zarel, la conversación es constant aquí

[05:29:26] Zarel Mexico: there will be one main conversation? or many of them?

[05:29:37] Gustavo Canada: Empezamos manãna el Foro

[05:29:39] Zarel Mexico: oh, thanks nos gustaría platicar sobre los megaproyectos extractivos, y sobre los grupos de “autodefensa” en Guerrero México

[05:30:17] Gustavo Canada: si, es un asunto muy importante Tenemos un taller sobre los Zapatistas aqui, y otros talleres acerca de la industria minera canadense

[05:31:38] Zarel Mexico: de acuerdo, si pudiera conocer los horarios sería fantástico

[05:32:03] Gustavo Canada: en especial, el grupo Mining Watch a ver si veo en el programa aquí

[05:32:38] Zarel Mexico: y si encuentro/an a alguién que esté interesado en conocer la experiencia de las “autodefensas”, la “policía comunitaria” y el sistema de seguridad y justicia ciudadana, podríamos charlar

[05:32:40] Gustavo Canada: yo no sé si ellos van a transmitir por video streaming, todavía

[05:32:54] Zarel Mexico: estoy atenta para saberlo

[05:33:31] Gustavo Canada: muy bien - mañana estaré en el Media Centre - y cuando hablar con MiningWatch y otros, les dire para entrar aquí

[05:40:55] Zarel Mexico: thanks, and if you know there is somebody interested in talk about civil guards, and Policia comunitaria , i’ll be here

[05:51:14] Gustavo Canada: - Here is a short list of tools for safer use of the Internet. We'll circulate it here at the Peoples' Social Form - feel free to share. http://tinyurl.com/PSFSaferInternet

the hall of FSS where the cafe was initialy imagined ... and finally took place on 22 and 23

le hall de FSS ou le café a été initialement imaginé ..; et a finalement eu lieu le 22 et 23

 

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21/08

1 -Twitter

[08:24:53] Chris Australia: Hello Bonjour Hola Ottawa مرحبا also on Twitter @wsfextensiocana

Care is needed that the new PSF Ottawa official programs/programmes are now 50 pages EN/FR, here

http://static.squarespace.com/static/52faa83fe4b00ea56bbb527a/t/53f4ad5ae4b02de8411c3719/1408544090885/PSF_eprogNnn.pdf  EN

[08:46:12] Chris Australia: so earlier versions ought be discarded. Today's activities start at 9am, with 37 worshops listed between pages 13-15.

All workshops will be available to PSF Ottawa attendees, but only some will be streamed or recorded for PSF-Extended participants.The next group of activities starts promptly at 10:30/10:45am on page 15 of the program.

2 -Eric  & topics  -  Eric et sujets

[09:02:50]  Eric, Bénin: Hi

[09:14:51] cafe ottawa: salut eric si vous voulez proposer des sujets de conversation donnez les on les mettra dans la page topics :

[09:16:58] cafe ottawa: http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-topics c'est un compléemnt a ce que vous avez déja indiqué dans le formulaire

après bien sur c'est selon la disponibité de chacun de votre coté et du coté ottawa ( les participants qui entreent dans le café..)

[10:02:21] cafe ottawa: la page des sujets a été mise a jour  http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-topics

 

3 – 3rd account  - 3eme compte

[09:21:50] *** cafe ottawa a invité wsfcafefsm3 ottawa3 ***

[09:22:05] cafe ottawa: et voici une possiblilité de 3eme canal

4 – arrival of Sylvie – arrivée de sylvie  

 [14:09:04] Sylvie Canada : Bonjour journée pluvieuse à Ottawa - mais on annonce beaucoup de soleil pour la fin de semaine alors j'espère que nous aurons beaucoup de participants

The March will be closing three bridges right when workers and many public servants will be leaving for home so it is hoped that many will decide to join the forum and get involved :)

[14:13:56] Chris Australia: Voulez-vous vous promenez au Parlement, ou est-il plus dans les coulisses pour faire? Comment Inscription débrouille?

: Hello Any Ottawans around?

[14:57:44]  Eric, Bénin: bonjour suis-je seul connecté?

[15:01:52] Chris Australia: Hello Eric in Benin Chris from Australia here

[15:02:17]  Eric, Bénin: oui or yes can you speak french?enchanté Chris salut Lopsiwa

[15:15:36] Chris Australia: Bonjour Eric

WsfCafe est due à ouvrir à 10h (en 45 minutes), mais déjà les Ateliers de streaming ont commencé. Près de 37 activités ont débuté à 9h.

Pour les résidents d'Ottawa qui ont enregistré avec succès, je pense que beaucoup seront à l'accueil traditionnel des Premiers Peuples à la place du Peuple (commencé il ya 30 minutes), donc je pense que beaucoup de gens vont dans de nombreuses directions.

[15:17:03]  Eric, Bénin: ok je suis là

[15:45:21] cafe ottawa: hello sylvie

5 - Julie

[15:45:37] Julie Canada: Salut Éric ! Julie, en route vers Ottawa Est-ce que qqu filme l'accueil traditionnel ?

[15:47:48] cafe ottawa: je crois que l'ouverture du forum est filémes ici http://openfsm.net/projects/canada-etand-fsmwsf/psfextension-list-extended-psf-fsp-activities voir 99% media et rabble.ca

6 -Ceremonie ouverture et Naomi klein – eric chris lopsiwa

[15:52:02]  Eric, Bénin: salut Julie

[15:52:17] Chris Australia: Live telecast will be from 12 midday, here http://rabble.ca/rabbletv/program-guide/2014/08/features/watch-live-thursday-august-21-psf2014-opening-ceremony-naomi

[15:52:25]  Eric, Bénin: je suivrai tout à partir de mon bureau au BENIN

[16:04:44] Lopsiwa Cameroun: bonjour Erci,bonjour Sylvie bonjour a tous

[16:05:08]  Eric, Bénin: elle est présente salut Lopsiwa

[16:05:17] Lopsiwa Cameroun: je m'excuse du fait que je ne suis pas très dynamique pour les rétroactions cel est du au décalage horaire et aussi a quelques occupations, trop de choses a faire a la fois

[16:05:23]  Eric, Bénin: en forme?

 [16:06:08] Lopsiwa Cameroun: je vais bien merci et toi Erci?

[16:06:18]  Eric, Bénin: Crois moi il est 3:06 pm chez moi oui ça va je me défends à la loupe

[16:08:53] Lopsiwa Cameroun: ok c la meme heure chez moi aussi: alors le café,ca dit koi

[16:10:04] Chris Australia: Eric est au Bénin. Mairama est à Ottawa, ou au Cameroun? Je viens tweeter le glissement de Gustavo, ici

[16:10:31]  Eric, Bénin: super

[16:10:48] Lopsiwa Cameroun: Mairama est au Cameroun précisément a yaoundé

[16:10:57] Chris Australia: https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=A0BE0FC038E84622!120&ithint=file%2cpptx&app=PowerPoint&authkey=!AIDcAaiNNzehPxg

[16:11:19] Lopsiwa Cameroun: bien reçu,merci et je consulte le lien

[16:12:01]  Eric, Bénin: je consulte

7 –what does ottawa say ? que dit ottawa ?

[16:12:04] Chris Australia: J'espère donc que nous obtenons quelques Skypers d'Ottawa bientôt.

[16:16:54] cafe ottawa: cela dépend de gustavo mais il n'est pas connecté mais en attendant les personnes peuvent se parler dans la salle ou en conversations particulières  :)

[16:18:37] Chris Australia: Sure.

[16:18:56] *** cafe ottawa a invité CAMARA MAROC : ***

[16:19:26] cafe ottawa: la page des sujets a été créé pour aider a touver des sujets

8 - Livestreams 21 aout

[The next two PSF-Extended livestreams are due to commence shortly (15 mins

[16:28:05] cafe ottawa: http://openfsm.net/projects/canada-etand-fsmwsf/psfextension-list-extended-psf-fsp-activities

[16:29:32] cafe ottawa: line 10 & 14

[16:30:07] Chris Australia: Maybe Line 11 & 14?

[16:30:58] cafe ottawa: L'économie sociale et solidaire avec perspective genre

Quartier du Monde   ah htat one is nearly over yes but line 11 has not given any particpation channel  skype or video

[16:41:27] Lopsiwa Cameroun: ok

[16:45:06] Chris Australia: Should be commencing now in Morisset 212 and Fauteux 147A rooms respectively, if people ask

9 -  Alternate media  assembly on/sur facebook – eric lopsiwa

[16:50:04] Café ottawa: if you are on facebook you can enlist in the facebook group for the alterantive media assembly

https://www.facebook.com/groups/PSFaltmedia/

http://openfsm.net/projects/canada-etand-fsmwsf/psfextension-list-extended-psf-fsp-activities

line 9 facebook group is a luxury alternative to skype

 [16:56:24] Lopsiwa Cameroun: merci

[16:56:50] cafe ottawa: maraima benvenue

[16:58:10] Lopsiwa Cameroun: je viens d'envoyer ma demande via Facebook pour etre ajoutée au groupe du forum social des peuples

[16:58:20] Lopsiwa Cameroun: merci,je suis ravie

[16:59:05] cafe ottawa: c'est juste l'assemblée des media alternatifs et c'est une form de participation

[16:59:19] cafe ottawa: il y a 17 assemblées dans ce forum

[16:59:29]  Eric, Bénin: j viens aussi d'envoyer ma demande via facebook

[16:59:38] Lopsiwa Cameroun: ok je vois

[16:59:52]  Eric, Bénin: super

[17:00:13] Lopsiwa Cameroun: Eric tu es sur Facebook en quel nom?je t'envoie ma demande d’ami tout a l’heure

[17:00:42]  Eric, Bénin: Eric

[17:00:44] cafe ottawa: (clap)

[17:03:26] Lopsiwa Cameroun: eric je viens de t'envoyer ma demande

[17:04:03]  Eric, Bénin: c'est confirmé Lapsiwa

 

10 - Uddhab

[16:51:37] uddhab pyakurel: yes

[16:51:49] Café ottawa: hello uddhab

[16:51:58] uddhab pyakurel: yes how are you?

[16:52:58] cafe ottawa: we are alive and well :)

[16:53:14] uddhab pyakurel: grt

[16:53:17] cafe ottawa: please tell us about the upcoming nepal socia forum how many activitieis how many organisations invovled?

[16:53:34] uddhab pyakurel: that is what is must

[16:53:43] cafe ottawa: thanks

 

11 – in PSF 17 themes au FSP

[17:01:21] cafe ottawa: les 17 themes http://www.peoplessocialforum.org/themes

 [17:04:13] cafe ottawa: http://www.peoplessocialforum.org/les-assembles-de-convergence/

12 - Atelier de Julie

[17:05:47] cafe ottawa: est ce que vous voulez vous inscrire a l'atelier de julie samedi?

[17:06:15]  Eric, Bénin: avec plaisir

[17:06:24] cafe ottawa: ligne 2 de la liste http://openfsm.net/projects/canada-etand-fsmwsf/psfextension-list-extended-psf-fsp-activities

[17:06:48] cafe ottawa: très bien alors je vous invite dans la salle ou vous pourrez echanger avec julie eric et maraima

[17:07:12]  Eric, Bénin: (y)

13 – opening sessio - Séance d’ouverture rabble/ca – television FSP

[17:08:32] Chris Australia: After current workshops in-progress, another 11 workshops are scheduled to commence in 45mins+, but ...but most attention goes to Peoples Square, where Opening Ceremony< Parliament march etc start at 12 midday (in 45 mins).  Telecast on rabble.ca

[17:10:19] cafe ottawa: yes .. but this can be replayed in the live video

[20:33:29] Abdazez Syria: Do you have a channel which broadcast live follow what is happening in Ottawa

[20:37:27] Lopsiwa Cameroun: ok

[20:47:30] cafe ottawa: http://openfsm.net/projects/canada-etand-fsmwsf/psfextension-list-extended-psf-fsp-activities

: 99% media - 99%Media's stream is visible here  www.99media.org

here is our tentative schedule ( about 12 workshop livestreamed and 3 assemblies)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16jYM7jOY5TVnnqpYS2-eIW37jt5pXMQS4_KFuD1yYv4/edit?usp=sharing

 

Rabble.ca live video will appear http://rabble.ca/rabbletv

 The PSF asked rabble to video stream the major plenaries and some of the assemblies, so we are focusing on that.Our website is rabble.ca,

 ON thursday we'll be livestreaming  opening remarks at 12:30 and Naomi Klein's speech. The beginning of the rally.  The rally as it arrives on Parliament Hill at 4PM on the 21st, and then the speakers on Parliament Hill.

 (*)voici des indications sur les "télévisions" au fsp

14 - Miloud Morroco

[20:55:22] cafe ottawa: je viens d'avoir une conversation avec miloud du maroc

[20:59:36] Miloud Maroc: Bonsoir tout le monde Je suis Miloud du maroc

[21:02:23] cafe ottawa: bienvenue miloud! dans lae salle de partcipation gnééral, un peu au dessus  vous avez des indciations pour la télévision du forum des peuples

 [21:03:12] Miloud Maroc: Est c on peut discuter le théme du déplacement forcé des peuples

[21:04:37] cafe ottawa ce theme a été  inscrit dans la liste des themes ici :

: http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-topics

: et vous pouvez l'aborder avec des personnes qui vous apellent depuis ottawa

ou vous pouvez créer un pad  (une page internet acessibble a tous ou vous developpez votre idée et d'autres personnes peuven aussi le faire

[21:05:26] cafe ottawa: https://pad.riseup.net/  le lien pour créer un pad  specifique

15 - Martin – Présentation  julie

[21:07:04] *** cafe ottawa a invité Martin  Canada***

[21:07:06] cafe ottawa: bonjour martin binvenue dans la salle de conversation du café internt ottawa

[22:12:09] Julie Canada: Salut, en attendant d'être avec vous, voici ma présentation #fnmipedago en virtuel https://prezi.com/pg57pr2h85do/

[22:23:13] Abdazez Syria: i am sorry but i cant see anything  about form

16 –Roger RD Congo

[22:26:10] Roger RD Congo: Je propose que nous parlions aussi des enfants maltraités dont ceux accusés de sorcellerie

[22:58:37] cafe ottawa: bonsoir roger

[23:35:40]  Eric, Bénin: Bonsoir

[23:36:10] Abdazez Syria: hi

[23:37:51] Julie Canada: Bonsoir, je serai au rd demain, et voici un icône fort présent ds les forêts du Québec (heidy)

[23:38:29]  Eric, Bénin: (y)

[23:41:39] Lopsiwa Cameroun: lol ok

[23:47:15] cafe ottawa: salut julie

17  Hassan Morroco

[23:51:02] *** cafe ottawa a invité Hassan ***

[23:51:17] cafe ottawa: bienvenue hassan du maroc laayoune

[23:55:08] cafe ottawa: on vçous attend dans la salle

[23:55:41] Hassan Maroc: salut mes amis

[23:55:49] cafe ottawa: bonjour :) http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants-list hassan particpant N° 26

[23:57:12] Hassan Maroc: merci

[23:58:09] cafe ottawa: pour voir des videos du fsp : http://openfsm.net/projects/canada-etand-fsmwsf/psfextension-list-extended-psf-fsp-activities

[la télévision  voir la partie en jaune, les ateliers voir le tableau

18- How to enter the skype room - Comment entrer dans la salle skype ? 

[23:59:13] Hassan Maroc: Je veux entrer dans la salle, mais je ne sais pas comment entrer

[23:59:29] cafe ottawa: vous etes dans la salle !  vous pouvez demander le contact des autres particpants dans la salle ici et tchatter ou parler avec eux, vous pouvez donner un nom a cette salle ( cliquer n haut de la fenetre a gauche) et écrire par exemple : ottawa salle generale

[00:00:12] *** Juan Carlos   Espana est parti ***

[00:00:26] cafe ottawa: et enregistrer cela dans vos contacts en cliquant en haut a droite ainsi vous retrouverez facilemetn cette salle http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants-list

19 – sites web et le calendrier FSM

[00:24:42] cafe ottawa: www.peoplessocialforum.org/  le site du forum le calendrier des évenements du processus du forum est ici

: http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf2012-support/wsf2014-calendar le forum du canada coorrespond au niméro 22 dans la liste

20 - Chris- Hassan - Roger

[00:35:48] Chris Australia: Hello

[00:36:16] Roger RD Congo: Bonjour

[00:36:20] Hassan Maroc: hello bonjour les amis

[00:39:30] Chris Australia: Bonjour. C'est un matin lumineux et gai à l'extérieur, le soleil a augmenté, chœur d'oiseaux est la célébration du monde dans lequel nous vivons. Comment est-il avec vous? Lancer d'un jour nouveau. Maintenant ce qui est sur le menu pour aujourd'hui?

[00:41:16] Hassan Maroc: Nous avons maintenant la nuit au Maroc

[00:44:53] Chris Australia: Hello Hassan, La nuit est pour dormir, la recharge des niveaux d'énergie, peut-être un peu la fête ... (doh)  (rain)

[00:49:14] Roger RD Congo: Nous sommes aussi la nuit en RDCongo. Mais cela ne m'empêche pas de savoir que les amis sont au matin. Tout est calme ici !

[00:55:30] Hassan Maroc: Nous sommes habitués à assurer le Sahara marocain.Je suis le Président de l'Assemblée de l'économie sociale et solidaire au Maroc et membre du réseau national et de l'économie sociale et la solidarité africaines, a participé au forum de l'économie africaine et la solidarité sociale à Marrakech, au Maroc en 2014, et a également participé forum de l'économie sociale à Tunis en 2013

[01:00:29] Roger RD Congo: Moi je suis Président de l'association Espace Vital et membre de plusieurs plate formes sociale dont le forum social congolais .A Tunis j'avais manqué le rendez vous

21 -Atelier tunis le 22 a 16h Ottawa

[01:01:00] Chris Australia: Je comprends que preprations sont déjà en cours pour Tunis 2015 Il s'agit d'un atelier sur le FSM 2015 cet après-midi (heure d'Ottawa), à compter de 16h30. Avec Raphaël. Il sera diffusé ici http://openfsm.net/projects/canada-etand-fsmwsf/psfextension-list-extended-psf-fsp-activities  Line 13

[01:04:30] Roger RD Congo: Je compte rester en ligne pour suivre tout en ligne ... Pourvu que la connexion internet ne trahisse pas

 [01:08:19] Chris Australia: roger, C'est OK, vous n'avez pas manqué. Il est encore 21 + heures de route.

[01:10:10] Roger RD Congo: OK bonne chose

[01:10:20] Hassan Maroc: merci

[01:11:04] Chris Australia: Bon nombre des 33 personnes dans cet espace voudront participer à cet atelier interactif sur la FSM 2015 Tunis. Serez-vous des nôtres? http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants-list

Pour participer, inscrivez-vous sur Skype unialter.extension publique de la Ligne 13 l'activité. Il suffit de taper que dans vos Contacts maintenant, et l'atelier va se connecter à vous, et vous pouvez voir tous les autres participants. peut-être 10 +

[01:27:15] Roger RD Congo: Je serais de vôtre je vous le promet

22 - Infos de Gustavo

[04:25:47] Gustavo Canada: Hello, this is Gustavo from Ottawa It was a very good day here.The schedule was very rushed, going from one place to the next, and I had little time to turn on my notebook, and connect here

I participated in a workshop about our tar sands and the military industry in the US. It was a very good presentation, with important facts.

The 2nd workshop I attended was about the Cuban 5, presented by the Cuban 5 solidarity network of Canada and one union leader (Postal Workers).

It was very good too. Naomi Klein's speach was excellent. The Unity March went very well and was beautiful.

I closed the night at the 'closed-doors' meeting of the First Nations Elders with other First Nations participants.

23 - Atelier de Gustavo

[For those interested, here is a link to my workshop's livestream (on Internet Security ): http://tinyurl.com/PSFSecurityVideoStream  . It's Friday 9am EST.

[04:31:23] Gustavo Canada: and I'll end here for today :)

22/08

1 - Infos de Sylvie

[14:09:24] Sylvie Canada : Hello Sylvie here by the green wall of the facility of social sciences. People are trickling slowly this morning. There are many choices in the program. I was told yesterday that they are expecting 10,000 participants so hopefully the forecasted rain will not detract them anyone.  

Bonjour tout le monde. J'espère que tout le monde est en forme. Le programme du forum social des peuples est super intéressant pour la journée aujourd'hui. Alors n'hésitez pas si vous avez des questions. Je suis en ligne jusqu'à 10:30

[14:10:36] Chris Australia: Hello Sylvie.  Have you intercepted Gustavo yet?

[14:11:14] Sylvie Canada : Not yet

2 - Sylvie – Toussaint Togo

[14:11:23] Toussaint Togo : salut  c toussaint du togo

[14:12:15] Sylvie Canada : Bonjour - comment ca va au Tongo ce matin? Plus chaud que chez nous j'en suis certaine

[14:14:39] Toussaint Togo : sa va mais il fait froid au togo tu es dans kel pays?

[14:16:45] Sylvie Canada : Je suis a Ottawa sur place pour le forum

[14:16:54] Toussaint Togo : OK comment se deroule le forum en ce moment?

[14:18:23] Sylvie Canada : Les ateliers commencent à 9:00 alors les gens arrivent lentement pour prendre un café, rencontrer leurs collègues et revoir le programme ou revoir leurs présentations :)

[14:18:57] Toussaint Togo : SUPER tu dirige quelle organisation?

[14:27:03] *** Toussaint Togo  a invité Carminda Canada ***

[14:32:36] Sylvie Canada : Bonjour, j'étais en ligne avec Miloud du Maroc pour discuter du forum des droits de la personne qui aura lieu en novembre.  Je suis avec plusieurs organisations principalement avec les mouvements sociaux, le dossier de la paix et les droits de la société civile.

[14:37:21] Toussaint Togo : super,au canada? moi je suis le coodornateur de novox au togo

[14:38:26] Sylvie Canada : Oui mais je retourne aux études en septembre pour travailler le dossier de la gouvernance mondiale alors disons que j'élargis mon focus...

[14:39:58] Toussaint Togo : que penser vous de la gouvernance mondiale?

[14:40:17] Sylvie Canada : Qu'il faut l'améliorer naturellement... Que la société civile prenne sa place En priorité

 

 [14:40:27] Sylvie Canada :

 [14:42:14] Toussaint Togo : oui je suis de meme avis que toi aujourd'hui la societé civile ne connais pas place

[14:43:26] Toussaint Togo : il faut toujour renforcé les capacité de la societé civile sur c'est droit et de voir

[14:44:13] Sylvie Canada : Le marché s'est  accaparé un langage qui ne fait aucune place a la société civiel

[14:44:48] Toussaint Togo : oui

3 - Julie  Atelier Gustavo

[14:40:15] Julie Canada: Gustavo dis-nous ds quelle salle est ton atelier ! Merci

[14:56:09] Gustavo Canada: Workshop about to start: Gustavo Canada ( public), Simard room 227. Livestream link: https://new.livestream.com/accounts/9527600/events/3257381

[15:05:09] Gustavo Canada: Tune in now:  Gustavo Canada ( public).  https://new.livestream.com/accounts/9527600/events/3257381   Questions will be taken via Skype a bit later on ...

[15:18:54] Julie Canada: here at Reconciliating Canada Session outside FSS, about to start !

[16:03:38] Gustavo Canada: LIVE: Gustavo Canada ( public): Are there any questions?

 

4 – Abdazez jordan

 [14:40:24] Abdazez Syria: السيدات والسادة نحن في المركز العربي لحقوق الانسان والسلام الدولي نتمنى لو يكون تواصل حي بالكمرا غدا  الساعة السابعة مساءا بتوقيت الاردن  حول ندوتنا المخدرات واضرارها في المجتمع المدني والحماية من انتشارها

[14:41:22] Sylvie Canada : Désolée je ne parle pas l'arabe - sorry i dont speak Arab

[14:44:56] Abdazez Syria: Abdazizalnaguib: Ladies and Gentlemen, we are at the Arab Center for Human Rights and International Peace to be continued if we wish neighborhood Balkamra tomorrow at seven pm GMT Jordan about our seminar and deterring drug in civil society and the protection of its spread

[14:57:03] Abdazez Syria: Seven o'clock pm Time Jordan is twelve noon GMT Canada

 

5 -Sophie benevole

[14:45:33] Sylvie Canada : Bonjour je me nomme sofie je participe au forum en tant que bénévole

[14:46:18] Sylvie Canada : Je suis présentement avec Sylvie

 [14:57:44] *** Ghassen Tunisia est parti ***

 [14:58:21] Toussaint Togo : OK

6 - Questions to Paul canadop

[14:59:04] Sylvie Canada : Is 9 am in canada: I have Paul Maillet here with me who will be presenting a workshop on the Bill presented to create a Department of Peace in Canada. Anyone has questions for him?

[15:17:22] Chris Australia: For Paul, Is the reschedule a surprise to him?

[15:17:57] Sylvie Canada : What reschedule ? Can you revise details please

 [15:19:32] Sylvie Canada : I'm not sure that ww will post Paul's session

[This is paul.  My email is pmaillet  at magma.ca for questions. The department of peace web is departmentofpeace.ca. And mine is paulmailletpeacemaker.wordpress.com and paulmailletethics.wordpress.com

[15:44:55] Sylvie Canada : Ok we are on the love towards the Fauteux building so stay tune and don't be shy to share your questions and comments

[15:45:37] Chris Australia: When the 50-page Program came out, Paul's workshop was the only one affected, http://openfsm.net/projects/canada-etand-fsmwsf/psfextension-list-extended-psf-fsp-activities , line 7

7 - Chat log page

[15:58:55] Chris Australia: The Skype logs from yesterday's happenings at WSF Cafe are here, http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-chatlog  Chris Australia: for those who participated, and newcomers who wonder how it all went.

8 - Janneth Colombia – Chris- Julie

[15:59:53] Janneth Colombia: Gracias por la información, estoy siguiendo las comunicaciones, pero en realidad estamos en un evento nacional de mujeres indígenas y esto me ha absorbido mucho, lo siento

 [16:07:45] Chris Australia: No se preocupe, Janneth. Deseamos que su actividad bien - tendrá que decirnos al respecto en algún momento

 [16:13:53] Janneth Colombia: si me gustaría... el contexto nacional es complejo y muy importante, quizás por eso la gente colombiana no entra tanto en estos espacios internacionales, estamos en las discusiones sobre cómo hacer los acuerdos para paz,

 [16:15:19] Janneth Colombia: las negociaciones con la guerrilla de la FARC avanza y ahora el tema es de las Víctimas, complejo, quiénes son las víctimas, de quién? cómo reparar... ? en fin muchas cosas que nos copan

[16:15:28] Janneth Colombia: Mucha suerte y buenas energías...

[16:16:25] Julie Canada: Juana, aqui en Canada trabajamos sobre la integracion de la historia de la oppression de los pueblos indigenos y de la reconciliation trc2014 en la educacion para todos canadienses

[16:16:45] Julie Canada: suerte a ti tambien ;)

[16:17:12] Janneth Colombia: que bueno, sería súper conocer de ese proceso, tenemos algo de información pero en realidad no conocemos mucho...

 

9 - Eric Sylvie Julie

[16:13:15]  Eric, Bénin: Bonjour

 [16:14:53] Sylvie Canada : Bonjour Eric ca va bien?

[16:15:11]  Eric, Bénin: Super ça ça va

 [16:16:22] Sylvie Canada : Eric tu as des questions en particulier sur le forum d'Ottawa ?

 [16:17:41]  Eric, Bénin: Je pense qu'on se mélange surtout au niveau de différentes langues

[16:18:32] Sylvie Canada : Ne t'inquiète pas car c'est normal d'avoir plus qu'une conversation en même temps

[16:19:15]  Eric, Bénin: Les sujets sont assez intéressants mais faute de traduction on ne pourra mieux apprécier les efforts consentis pour l'élaboration de ce système qui ne doit en aucun cas disparaître après le forum mais plutôt servira de base pour un forum dans un forum

Raisonnablement tout le monde ne peut effectuer le voyage

[Je pense que nous devons nous pencher également sur le droit au foncier , au logement et à l'habitat

 [16:21:50] Julie Canada: Bonjour Eric, je disais à Juana que nous travaillons sur l'intégration des travaux de la commission de la vérité et réconciliation au curriculum général au Canada. Le changement social passe par la transformation de l'éducation.

[16:22:08]  Eric, Bénin: Excellent Je t'assure

[16:23:03] Sylvie Canada : Oui c'est notre intention de maintenir le dialogue longue distance pour s'appuyer mutuellement

10 - Martin  invite alexandre

[16:24:48] *** Martin  Canadaa invité alexandre canada  ***

11 – suggesion to have one room per language - Suggestions de  specialiser des salles par langues ?

[16:22:59] Chris Australia: Nous pourrions peut-être déplacer la conversation française dans Ottawa2 wsfcafe2? ... Y mantener la conversación española aquí? Quizás

[16:21:35] Maher Egypt : Hello where can i find an english conversation for The forum

 [16:24:50] Chris Australia: Maher, we can start English here, or can I invite you to wsfcafe3 ottawa3?

[16:25:32] Maher Egypt : i think we can start english so i can follow better as i use google translator now as my french is not good

12 - Abdazez

[16:27:53] Abdazez Syria: اظن انه بامكاننا من هنا وضع حجر الاساس لمجمع تعليمي اقلها في اللغات كون تنوعنا موجودد في هذه الغرفة فاقترح انشاء غرفة تعليمية تعنى باللغات من هنا

[16:28:18] Chris Australia: Abas, that was unfair without warning us

 [16:29:39] Abdazez Syria:  I think that we can from here laying the foundation stone for the educational complex languages in the least the fact that our diversity in this room Mugodd suggested the establishment of an educational room dealing with languages ​​from here

13 - Eric Sylvie  janneth on/sur l’education

[16:24:13]  Eric, Bénin: Il ne peut pas y avoir de changement ni de développement si on ne prend pas au sérieux l'éducation à base âge pour espérer un autre monde avec une autre génération sinon vous pouvez me croire la génération actuelle est quasi irrécupérable

 [16:26:04] Sylvie Canada : oui l'éducation est essentielle mais je suggère qu'elle doit être créée et maintenue à tous les. Niveaux d'âge

[16:26:54] Janneth Colombia: Bueno, creo que es complejo el tema de los idiomas, esa es el reto también de lo educativo, como desarrollar procesos que nos permitan comunicarnos, tenemos las tecnologías...

[16:27:01]  Eric, Bénin: Je suis d'avis mais à certains âge c'est du recyclage

[16:27:47] Sylvie Canada : Sauf si tu changes le discours et que tu le fais tien...

 [16:28:54]  Eric, Bénin: Nous sommes tous conscients qu'un autre monde est possible et si nous voulons être francs envers nous même il ne faut que bâtir ce nouveau monde sur une fondation solide qu'est les enfants qui sont l'avenir de demain

[16:29:10] Janneth Colombia: la edad, las diferencias de género, la pertenencia étnica y racial... en fin educación inclusiva y a lo largo de toda la vida

 [16:30:25] Julie Canada: hi ! i think we can continue multilingual as language is part of how we perceive and transform our worlds

[16:31:07] Chris Australia: Maybe we need to revert to Babel translation to preserve the context and nuance ...

[16:31:07] Sylvie Canada : And we have some translators to act as bridges to help the process :)

 [16:29:50]  Eric, Bénin: à certains rangs nous pouvons espérer instaurer un nouveau concept de changement de comportement Mais les résultats ne seront pas dans l'immédiat que d'espérer former une génération à partir de cet instant pour espérer un monde nouveau plus juste dans 20 25 voire 30ans

[16:32:05] Sylvie Canada : Je suis plus optimiste car nous avons de nouveaux outils pour appuyer une éducation populaire plus participative

[16:33:24] Janneth Colombia: educación publica? la tendencia es a privatizar...

[16:33:30]  Eric, Bénin: Je pense que la question concerne beaucoup plus la population

[16:33:58] Janneth Colombia: por lo menos en el caso de Colombia.... es un asunto también de la lucha por que la educación sea universal, pública... y por supuesto de calidad...

[16:34:09]  Eric, Bénin: Et cette même population qui a le pouvoir d'élire ou de désigner leur représentant à divers niveaux Si on exclut la mauvaise volonté politique des dirigeants , ce monde connaitra un regain de vitalité

[16:36:22] Maher Egypt : in egypt even private education is not good. because the money for the country that helps to imporove the education is always low an have many corruption and that makes also the teachers make other ways like private lessons which cost most families extra money and that makes the free education that the government offer to its people in non sence at all ( i think in most of developing countries that happenes)

so i think one of the best ways to improve the education is to prepair a good teacher who can make good students and that includes ( Way of teaching, Sallery and Good Housing)

so they will live good from thier work n school n wont think of another way to help them to live

the 2nd thing is the Schools and Universties are not well prepaired and if so it will be expensive for most of the people to learn

[16:39:31]  Eric, Bénin: Je prends un exemple de mon pays où depuis 14ans que le système éducatif a été modifié par un nouveau programme c'est pas la joie

Impossible de voir un élève ou un étudiant de passer une question de réflexion par excellence

[16:40:23] Janneth Colombia: presupuestos para educación, menos para la guerra.... menos para la "seguridad" y erradicar la corrupción,

[16:41:00]  Eric, Bénin: Je pense que l'éducation dont il s'agit est celle qui prendra en compte les réalités de chaque pays et chaque milieu

[16:41:47] Janneth Colombia: por supuesto

[16:42:05] Maher Egypt : i knew some people who made a good education for their kids by using he home school option and i think in that case u will need to make extra work hours to teach ur kids, and that is a good way to have good educated people

[16:42:20]  Eric, Bénin: On nous a trop fait copier un système coloniale qui fait que l'Afrique doit tout le temps se référer à l'Occident pour son éducation alors qu'on n'a pas les mêmes réalités

Beaucoup de pays perdent leurs réalités endogènes pour une qui n'est pas les leurs.Un peuple sans histoire est un arbre sans racine car la culture ne se vend pas...

 [16:53:03] Sylvie Canada : C'est la vision qu'on partage Que je partage...

[16:57:40] Sylvie Canada : Is Peace possible? A question to the participants in a workshop of a potential Department of Peace in a machinery of government

14 - Gustavo – chris – Sylvie ( report on Gustavo workshop)

 [16:55:35] Gustavo Canada: Greetings  - Gustavo here from Ottawa

[16:57:08] Chris Australia: I think you interrupted Sylvie's train of thought ...

[16:57:21] Gustavo Canada: désolé

[16:50:26] Chris Australia: Has anyone determined whether the new PSF-Extended workshop is successfully streaming on YouTube, http://openfsm.net/projects/canada-etand-fsmwsf/psfextension-list-extended-psf-fsp-activities , Line 5.

[16:51:52] Chris Australia: This should be the YouTube channel, https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUgiAbfDcJ_O0x1MgGJiX_w

 [16:58:29] Sylvie Canada : No apologies required... As long as we can continue to dialogue :)

[16:58:47] Chris Australia: See, Sylvie is a forgiving soul.  We should welcome Gustavo's return after a successful Livestreamed workshop

[17:01:05] Sylvie Canada : Gustavo - what were some questions from your participants?

[17:02:50] Gustavo Canada: :) : well, one interesting question about about how much privacy is people willing to give up,assuming that there are 'bad people' out there, and assuming that one thing exludes the other. so that was a good discussion. One person pointed out that it is in fact  the 'Big Brother' state that causes more harm.Many others advocated for oversight and accountability of 'Big Brother' in the existing public institutions, like Parliament.

15 - Chris asking Gustavo about advice from his workshop experience

[17:05:22] Chris Australia: Gustavo, Do you have any pointers for Sylvie, who conducts her own workshop, after lunch at 2:45pm; here http://openfsm.net/projects/canada-etand-fsmwsf/psfextension-list-extended-psf-fsp-activities , Line 3?

[17:05:37] Gustavo Canada: Does she want advice?

[17:05:58] Sylvie Canada : Thanks Chris- I can use all the help for a successful workshop

[17:06:05] Chris Australia: [Sylvie is silent.]

[17:06:30] Sylvie Canada : I'm taping Paul's presentation using Hangout+ will publish the link on You tube later

[17:06:15] Gustavo Canada: I would recommend that you allocate a good amount of time for discussion I had the last 35 minutes just for discussion and it went well

[17:06:55] Chris Australia: That is great news

[17:06:59] Gustavo Canada: it was a good balance between core presentation and discussion, I guess

[17:07:17] Gustavo Canada: I also divided in groups for discussion and asked 1 person to summarize the discussion that went well too - it gave diversity of voices and allowed discussions in parallel and I didn't let too many questions on the same topic... or else people go on circles :)

[17:07:48] Chris Australia: I was masquerading as Ethel on your Livestream feed.  You probably noticed ... (cool)

 [17:08:10] Gustavo Canada: thanks, Chris - I noticed the user, but I didn't know it was you:)

The video is now available: https://new.livestream.com/accounts/9527600/events/3257381

[17:08:45] Gustavo Canada: the same link I'll probably tweet the link with #PSF2014

16 - Now focusing on Sylvie’s next workshop

[17:09:11] Chris Australia: Does Sylvie want the WSF Cafe people to think of questions-in-advance, to keep her on her toes?

[17:09:48] Gustavo Canada: What's the title of the presentation again, Sylvie?

[17:10:58] Sylvie Canada : Hangout + title is Department of Peace but still being taped now

[17:11:07] Chris Australia: [Silence from Sylvie.  She is contemplating the task ahead] http://openfsm.net/projects/canada-etand-fsmwsf/psfextension-list-extended-psf-fsp-activities , Line 3

[17:12:08] Sylvie Canada : Yes I would like to have people questions so maybe we can find participants or facilitators to answer questions :) we are here for he next 3 days

[17:13:29] uddhab pyakurel: yes

[17:13:38] Chris Australia: (worry) , 3 whole days.  Today is going well, so far.  Do you think so?

[17:14:38] Sylvie Canada : Yes quite a lot of people on the site. A lot of motivation following the March and art activities yesterday. Really I fell a lot of love and concerns in the air...

[17:14:51] Chris Australia: As it is already Saturday here in Australia, I seek your permission to depart to slumber.

[17:15:48] Sylvie Canada : Permission granted - chat with you tomorrow - sweet dreams over abetter world

[17:16:20] Chris Australia: I will ask you to hold that thought until I return later today (Ottawa time). (wave)

[17:16:29] Gustavo Canada: take care, Chris

16 -Meeting Sylvie Gustavo in ottawa

[17:21:34] Sylvie Canada : Gustavo - let me know where I could meet you on the site  maybe around 12:15?

[17:25:16] Gustavo Canada: good idea I'll be in front of the FSS building at that time and walk to the chicken curry food truck to eat

[17:25:57] Gustavo Canada: what if I call you at 12:15?

[17:26:27] Sylvie Canada : Ok perfect!

17 Adresse of Sylvie to participants

[17:26:47] Sylvie Canada : Please share your questions and if you Like the idea of extended forum please join this group officially -we intend to "follow" the forums around the world

I will be back on line to chat at 12:15 - I was to participate in discussions on peace now :)

18 -Toussaint – Sylvie – atelier tunis 2015 dans 30mn

[18:01:55] Toussaint Togo : alo les amis

[18:04:23] Roger RD Congo: Oui l'ami ; parles on t'écoute

[18:05:06] Toussaint Togo : comment se deroule le forum en ce moment les de l'atelier les theme de l'atelier

[18:23:40] Sylvie Canada : Gustavo - je te cherche je vois le truck Relish ?

[18:24:41] Toussaint Togo : sylvie le forum se pase bien ?

[18:25:47] Sylvie Canada : Oui ça se passe très bien. Les gens a de la difficulté a quitter leurs ateliers alors il faut croire que l'intérêt est très bonne

[18:26:15] Toussaint Togo : quelle le theme de l'atelier?

[18:26:58] Sylvie Canada : Mon prochain atelier est une discussion sur le forum de la paix à Sarajevo -dans 30 minutes. Les organisateurs one choisi 17 thèmes pour les ateliers alors beaucoup de choix

[18:28:06] Toussaint Togo : si je comprent bien une restitution du forum de sarajevo

[18:28:20] Sylvie Canada : ...excuse les fautes...iPad ...

[18:28:32] Toussaint Togo : ok tu me dire un des themes?

[18:29:10] Sylvie Canada : Oui - plusieurs de participants du Collectif du YMCA-UNIAlter ont décidé de contribuer leurs expériences

 [18:30:11] Toussaint Togo : quel colectif?

[18:31:18] Sylvie Canada : Les thèmes - alimentation climat communauté communications économie genre gouvernance et démocratie international migration mouvements avoir et connaissance services publics terre travail Savoir et connaissance..

19 -Atelier de Sylvie demain  sur la gouvernance mondiale

[18:32:53] Toussaint Togo : super kel est letheme de ton ateleir ?

[18:50:01] Sylvie Canada : Une réforme de la gouvernance mondiale

[18:51:04] Toussaint Togo : que pensez vous de la gouvernance mondiale?

[19:01:28] Sylvie Canada : Que c'est le temps que la société civile prenne sa place

[19:01:48] Toussaint Togo : oui c vrais

[19:03:09]  Eric, Bénin: Société civile Prendre sa place

[19:03:17] Sylvie Canada : C'est le sujet de ma thèse de doctorat que je débute a temps plein des Septembre..

[19:03:40] Toussaint Togo : ok felicitation

[19:04:02]  Eric, Bénin: La gouvernance mondiale doit faire l'État de ce que la population prenne en compte son droit et devoir

[19:07:48] Toussaint Togo : eric tu sair que 80pour  cent de la population mondiale sont non scolarisé?

[19:09:49]  Eric, Bénin: 80%? Toussaint tu as eu le statistique ?

[19:10:05] Toussaint Togo : oui

[19:14:33] Sylvie Canada : J'aimerais moi aussi avoir la source de tes statistiques

[19:15:07]  Eric, Bénin: C'est mieux tousda

20 – Gustavo goes to livestream on  mines  -  part livestreamer sur les mines

[20:20:55] Gustavo Canada: https://new.livestream.com/accounts/9527600/events/3257381

mining in El Salvador by Canadian companies - live streaming now -

rushing from workshop to workshop ! I'll catch up soon!

[21:16:14] Hassan Maroc: hello

 

21 -From worksop on tunis /Depuis l’atelier sur tunis 2015

[22:25:27] Sylvie Canada : Hello fromOttawa Now in the workshop to chat about Tunis 2015

[00:06:00] Chris Australia: Hello Ottawans

[00:28:16] Sylvie Canada : Did you sleep? We has a great day !

[00:29:21] Chris Australia: Extremely well.  I dreamed of lullaby-singers in Ottawa.  Worked a dream! I am pleased for you and for the whole team.  What a marvellous operation you have there at PSF-Ottawa. The twittersphere is abuzz, too

22 - Pierre arrive a ottawa

[00:30:43] Sylvie Canada : Hello chris this is Pierre

[00:30:54] Sylvie Canada : He finally made it..

[00:37:27] Chris Australia: Hello Pierre & Sylvie, what a team!

[00:38:53] Chris Australia: Are you going to rock&roll, as Pierre suggested, or does PSF-Extended party in other ways? (music) (pi)

There is a support need, if WSFCafe remains open for business for a while. [Hint. Hint. Send more photos]

http://openfsm.net/projects/canada-etand-fsmwsf/lists/psf-extending-activities-fsp/archive/2014/08/1408744954587/forum_view

23 - Chris gives info to Mohamed Egypt

[00:54:27] Mohamed Egypt: i want  to  join to  that  workshop

[01:08:25] Chris Australia: There are three PSF-Extended livestreamed Assemblies on Saturday (Ottawa time), http://openfsm.net/projects/canada-etand-fsmwsf/psfextension-list-extended-psf-fsp-activities ; Lines 2, 4 and 9

There are still more than 60 workshop-type activities to go, commencing on p41 of the Program; http://static.squarespace.com/static/52faa83fe4b00ea56bbb527a/t/53f4ad5ae4b02de8411c3719/1408544090885/PSF_eprogNnn.pdf  , all available to people in Ottawa if they want to start at 9am

and for the Day of Assemblies, we have 33 participants registered in the WSF Cafe, http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants-list

including visitors to Ottawa including Abdul (maybe a Canadian resident), Maryce (from Managua, Nicaragua), Rachid (Maroc), Joseph (Kinshasa, DR Congo), Fred (Lusaka, Zambia) and others.

[01:20:03] Chris Australia: Hello Mohamed, what time in Mansoura?

[01:20:36] Mohamed Egypt: the time  about  2.18 am-in mansoura

[01:21:09] Chris Australia: ... and Trotsky never sleeps :x

[01:21:49] Mohamed Egypt: ya  i am  trotsky  not  sleep at all :)

i  have  a problam  about  the  different  time  betwen   egypt and  canda

[01:23:18] Chris Australia: You may sleep for 17.5 hours and still not miss the streamed Assembly.  WSF Cafe might do wakeup calls ... (coffee)

[01:24:37] Mohamed Egypt: i  need  the  time  table for  workshop

[01:27:23] Chris Australia: http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants-list , 3 Assemblies at Lines 2, 4 and 9 (you may need to scroll down)

[01:28:13]  Eric, Bénin: Hi

[01:29:03] Chris Australia: Many of the World Social Forum people in Ottawa will be attending Line 9 Assembly, conducted by rabble.ca; Media Action Research Group; CWA Canada Associate Members; Upping the Anti: A Journal of Theory and Action; Talking Radical; Organizing For Justice; EquitableEducation.ca  & more

WSFCafe Ottawa is physically located next door to the Media Centre in Ottawa, and there has been some synergy over the last 2 days.  Perhaps some of our local Ottawa volunteers will also attend the Alternative Media Movement Assembly, commencing at 1pm, Ottawa time

24- issue of topics in the café – sujets dans le café  Chris Eric Mohamed- Mohamed

[01:31:24] Chris Australia: Hello Eric in Ottawa?

[01:32:14]  Eric, Bénin: No in bénin (west africain)

[01:32:19] Chris Australia: or Benin?  What time in Benin?

[01:33:31]  Eric, Bénin: 12:33 am

[01:33:58] Chris Australia: Still early!

[01:34:19]  Eric, Bénin: Please can you speak french?

[01:34:28] Chris Australia: too early, |-)

[01:34:57]  Eric, Bénin: I try to speak  english

[01:35:13] Chris Australia: only Google Translate, and all the French-speakers in Canada are partying or asleep.  I am in Australia

[01:37:59] Mohamed Egypt: i want to suggest some of topics to attend for discussion in the community, i want to discussion about Sustainable development in third world countries and development relationship with national liberation, Control of capitalism

[01:47:49] Chris Australia: I will add these to the Discussion Themes list for you http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-topics  and I am sure that the discussion later on today (Mansoura time) will be stimulating and lively - with people in Ottawa

[01:48:42] Mohamed Egypt: :)thanks  alot  chris  for  your  help

[01:49:40] Chris Australia: :)

25 - Sylvie – Chris – Gustavo  while at a restaurant in ottawa – au restaurant

[01:50:04] Sylvie Canada : Hello we are now ready for a drink in a well- known restaurant in Ottawa

[02:11:41] Chris Australia: Cake is offered, but only to people in Ottawa; by @Inter_Pares: There will be cake tonight at the THE CORPORATION screening tonight #psf2014 - join us at 8:30pm! pic.twitter.com/x7wzdh1bA9   (^)

[02:12:13] Chris Australia: but you will have to be quick; screening starts in 15mins

[03:01:54] Sylvie Canada : We have a connection problem

[03:03:05] *** cafe ottawa a invité Ghassen Tunisia, mad lachyat ***

[03:03:37] cafe ottawa: salut hello  anyone here ?  ya quelq'u

: on est a attawa  et on vous parle "demain"

[03:07:44] Chris Australia: yeeeees?

[03:19:40] Chris Australia: He went to bed couple of hours ago (see above).

[03:21:16] cafe ottawa: vous etes encore la  :) on vousvoit ecrire

[03:22:45] Chris Australia: Can't you sleep? Next Assembly is only 15.5 hours away

[03:15:04] cafe ottawa: salut mohaemd

[03:21:40] Mohamed Egypt: hi i am still here . are you need anything from me :)

[03:23:06] cafe ottawa: no we just want you to know that   will try our best toorrow to create occasion of conversaion with people in ottawa

[03:23:46] Chris Australia: Mohamed got in early and amended the Theme list

[03:24:13] cafe ottawa: ah

[03:25:54] Mohamed Egypt: when does the  first workshop start

[03:31:28] cafe ottawa: http://openfsm.net/projects/canada-etand-fsmwsf/psfextension-list-extended-psf-fsp-activities check here

[03:34:13] Chris Australia: 9am (Ottawa time), http://static.squarespace.com/static/52faa83fe4b00ea56bbb527a/t/53f4ad9ee4b02de8411c3790/1408544158351/EProg_FSPnnn.pdf  starting at p41, but ...

PSF-Extended Livestreaming only starts with the 3 Assemblies, after lunch (see wsfcafefsm.ottawa above)

[05:22:27] Gustavo Canada: Greetings - Gustavo F. here from Ottawa - today was a very productive and busy day here for many,great workshops, very good turnout, very good discussions

Pierre arrived from France here and hopefully we'll have more interaction here on the PSF WSF Ottawa Café

In the program tomorrow there will be mainly movement assemblies by theme.

For those interested, see the link the Chris wrote here and search for live Livestream video.gotta go - good night -

[05:24:55]  Eric, Bénin: Good night

23/08

1 - Start

[11:34:22] Toussaint Togo : salut lemonde du fsp depuis otawa

[11:39:31] Chris Australia: Good morning Toussaint.  You are still early.  It is 5:40am in Ottawa, so the WSFCafe is not yet open

[11:39:45]  Eric, Bénin: Hello10:39 am in benin

[11:40:27] Chris Australia: Hello Eric, did you sleep well after yesterday's activities?

[11:40:56]  Eric, Bénin: Yes

[11:41:37] Chris Australia: Are you ready for a busy round of Francophile discussions today?

[11:44:31]  Eric, Bénin: I'm not busy

[11:47:01] Said, Egypt: Hello everyone from Alexandria, Egypt

[11:47:48] Chris Australia: Hello Said, Mohamed has been awadn't sleep

[11:48:00] Abdazez Syria: اهلا وسهلا بك

[11:48:10] Said, Egypt: اهلا Hope it is going well for the FSP :)

[11:52:05] Chris Australia: We will be joined by many people today; http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants-list .  Some you may recall from yesterday, but others will be new.  Someone keeps adding names to this list ... now up to 33 participants.  Some are already in Ottawa, but most are scattered around the world.

[13:20:55] cafe ottawa: hello  bonjour

[13:21:26]  Eric, Bénin: bonjour

2 – proposal to start pads around some issues  - Proposition de faire des pads autour des sujets  - Joseph Haiti

[13:21:37] cafe ottawa: a partir de la page topics / form the topic page

   http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-topics

vous pouvez accéder a un pad ou vous pouvez comenter les différent livestreaming que vous avez regardés a prppos du forum des peuples

https://pad.riseup.net/p/comments-psf-livestreams-in-wsfcafe-ottawa

you can access the pad where you can comment the different livestreaming that you have watched on occasion of people forum

les commentaires écrits sont libre et chacun a une couleur

written comments are easy to mae and each of us can take a colour and a name

[13:26:51] Joseph,  Haiti: bonjou comment-allez vous?

[13:27:21] cafe ottawa: ça va bien  -le cafe commence dans 2heures officiellement mais vous pouvez commencer, vous avez vu des videos?

[13:28:54] Said, Egypt: Pas encore

[13:29:05] Joseph,  Haiti: ah ok je suis Joseph le vice-president de l'organisation UJDHRD, UNION DES JEUNES POUR LE DEVELOPPEMENT HUMAIN REEL ET DURABLE

[13:29:25] cafe ottawa: https://pad.riseup.net/p/comments-psf-livestreams-in-wsfcafe-ottawa cherchez les videos  explorez et donnez vos commentaires sur ce qui y est dit ici

 [13:32:07] Joseph,  Haiti: Nous travaillons dans plusieurs domaine Droits Humain,Education,sante,construction,culturelle nous aidons les femmes les enfants les jeunes ainsi que les viellard, je vais regarder le site pour que suis par or du sujet

[13:33:27] cafe ottawa: il n'y a pas de hors sujet - vous pouvez trouver dans les ateliers des sujets proche de votre theme, mais evidemment la pluspart des ateleirs ne sont pas transmis mémorisé en video

donc on vous propose ( a coté des conversation du café ) de prendr edu temps pour regarder ce qui est accessbile en videoet le commenter ici

https://pad.riseup.net/p/comments-psf-livestreams-in-wsfcafe-ottawa

3 – Find links to organisations presetn in ottawa - trouver des liens avec les organisations présentes a Ottawa

[13:35:15] Joseph,  Haiti: ah ok est ce que dans ce forum je peux trouver des organisations qui peuvent travailler deconcers avec nous en Haiti dans le domaine que nous intervenons

[13:36:18] cafe ottawa: il y a des centains d'organisationdans ce forum et vous pouvez prendre des contacts dans la liste d'organisteur qui est acessible ici :

[13:37:31] Joseph,  Haiti: ou je peux trouver ca dans quel liens je peux trouver les contacts svp

[13:37:42] cafe ottawa: En telechargeant numeros description mail & telephone ici  contacter à l'avance les organisateurs des ateliers ci dessous   et leur dire que vous voudriez etre participants étendu dans leur atelier . FR les numeros des ateliers mail et telephone de contact organisateurs  proviennent de la liste ici https://peoplessocialforum.wufoo.com/reports/zi77mlu0elqlmk

 

[13:38:09] cafe ottawa: http://openfsm.net/projects/canada-etand-fsmwsf/psfextension-list-extended-psf-fsp-activities

[14:13:23] cafe ottawa: http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-medialivestreaming

4 - Gustavo  chris about wsf 2016

[14:29:42] Gustavo Canada: Good morning everyone - bonjour tout le monde Gustavo here from Ottawa at the PSF

[14:30:14] Chris Australia: Good morning Gustavo

[14:30:20]  Eric, Bénin: bonjour Gustave

[14:30:48] Chris Australia: thank you for last evening's kind words.  How was the meal and the company?

[14:31:15] Gustavo Canada: that went very well - all conversation in French, and that is always fun :) Pièrre and Sylvie and many others from Montreal went out for dinner.  I got to know a lot more about the World Social Forum, and that was very interesting, I got to know more about the plans for Montreal 2016

5 - Heather assembly?

[14:31:44] Chris Australia: Any more news from Heather and her 1pm Assembly in the Alumni Auditorium?

 [14:32:21] Gustavo Canada: Heather didn't reply to me yet

[14:32:43] Chris Australia: ... or Derek?

[14:32:51] Gustavo Canada: not either

[14:34:31] Chris Australia: Maybe Heather will pop into WSFCafe for a good coffee (coffee); probably no cake available as it was all eaten at the 8:30pm screening of THE CORPORATION last night. (^)

[14:34:52] Gustavo Canada: :)

6 - Julie –invitation  Sylvie

[14:35:14] Julie Canada: Bonjour ! Boozhoo ! Looking forward to chat today during my workshop on Inclusive pedagogy. Je vous invite à la conversation FNMI pedago; selon le nombre de participants, je vais essayer de vous contacter en conférence vidéo skype si cela vous intéresse. I was thinking that through a skype video conference call people might be able to take part. See you there !  [samedi 23 août 2014 14:15] Julie Canada:

<<< Bonjour ! Boozhoo ! Here is an updated version of my prez #fnmipedago : https://prezi.com/pg57pr2h85do/  which we can discuss on saturday@1:00pm

Ps. La présentation est bilingue

If you want to join live, join the chat room fnmipedago and I will try a video conference call from the room. Also live streaming : http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9694896 . Of course this is all experimental so hope it works ! I am looking forward to meet you.

[14:36:43] Chris Australia: Great news, Julie.  I wish you well with 1pm discussions today.  Do you need any last-minute assistance; eg crowd-sourcing?

[14:52:42] Sylvie Canada : Hello Sylvie here by the green wall in the faculty of social sciences in Ottawa watching people coming for registration this morning. We hope for great sun inside and out.

[14:52:48] Julie Canada: Yes !

[14:53:17] Sylvie Canada : Gustavo will be joining me in a moment. Here he is

[14:53:24] Julie Canada: I am wondering if the turn out will be more or less since it is Saturday .The assemblies are starting at 9 so it's a bit early to make an assessment

[14:56:09]  Eric, Bénin: je peux savoir l'heure de l'atelier de Miloud

[14:57:46] Sylvie Canada : Je croyais que Miloud était au Maroc? Alors je en suis pas certaine

[14:58:32]  Eric, Bénin: il devait avoir une atelier ce samedi le concernant non?

[15:07:12] Sylvie Canada : J'ai cherché le programme et je n'ai pas trouvé désolée

[15:09:02]  Eric, Bénin: ok

7 - What about those participants in wsf café who said they will be in Ottawa? Que se passé til avec les participants qui ont dit qu’ils seraient a ottawa

[15:14:30] Chris Australia: Hello WSFCafe Ottawa, you certainly have a gathering The list of 33 PSF-Extended participants includes Abdul (Canada), Maryce (Managua/Nicaragua), Rachid (Maroc), Joseph (Kinshasa, DRC), Fred (Lusaka, Zambia); all of whom decalred their intent to be in ottawa this w/e.  Have they appeared yet at WSFCafe?

[15:19:44] Chris Australia: http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants-list

8 - Said- egypt Call  Said Egypt – Saida Ottawa - Sylvie

 [15:27:11] Said, Egypt: Hello friends :)

[15:27:53] Said, Egypt: Hope u r all enjoying the PSF

[15:28:34] Said, Egypt: I'm Said Ezz from Alexandria, Egypt

[15:30:05] Sylvie Canada : Hello Said Ezz hope you are well

[15:31:04] Said, Egypt: I'm fine, thanks Sylvie

 [15:33:02] Sylvie Canada : What is your focus of engagement ?

[15:34:57] Said, Egypt: We are a group called the popular committee for defending the revolution in Alexandria...and we were always trying to preserve social peace, We always stood between any two or more conflicting groups in the streets, in order to stop violence

 [15:36:39] cafe ottawa: we are trying to call you Said

[15:43:27] Chris Australia: Anyone still struggling with the broad scope of PSF Ottawa's 17 themes can find a detailed explanation here; http://www.peoplessocialforum.org/themes#.U_iZ_cWSybM

[15:49:26] Said, Egypt: Thank you for the call, and i'll try to come again to Tunisia next March :)

[15:51:35] Said, Egypt: This video is telling our story...

قصة اللجان بالإسكندرية: http://youtu.be/pWKddybtsWI

[15:51:35] Sylvie Canada : We will hope to meet there :) the full team

[15:51:47] Said, Egypt: :)

[15:52:34] cafe ottawa: welcome Said was a pleasure talking to you again

we can call any time today knowing you are on line

[15:54:02] Said, Egypt: Thanks.... It was my pleasure

[15:55:42] Said, Egypt: This is a documentary by Aljazeera talking about popular committees in Cairo,Suez, and Alexandria....we were the group representing Alexandria in the documentary... :)

[15:55:45] Said, Egypt: الشعب لجان: http://youtu.be/u3Fg1bGCb8U

[16:49:33] Sylvie Canada : Thank you - merci Said - good luck in Alexandria !!!!

[16:50:05] Said, Egypt: Thank you Sylvie....et a bientot :)

[16:50:17] Sylvie Canada : Oui à bientôt

 

9 - Who is available for calls from Ottawa ? qui peut prendre les appels venant de Ottawa?

[16:01:59] cafe ottawa: bonjour  hello who is available for calls ?

[16:02:20] cafe ottawa: qui est dispinible pour des appels audio/vdeo

10 - Abadzez - Sylvie

[15:55:48] Abdazez Syria: After two hours from now, I hope if we can contact you with sound and image to the transfer of the deliberations and the Arab Center for Human Rights and International Peace about the protection of drugs in our communities and deterring

[15:56:29] Abdazez Syria: بعد ساعتين من الان اتمنى لو نستطيع الاتصال بكم بالصوت والصورة لنقل مداولات و المركز العربي لحقوق الانسان والسلم الدولي حول  الحماية من المخدرات واضرارها في مجتمعاتنا

[15:58:47] Abdazez Syria: And if there is any unprecedented preparations required of us wish that it let me know

[15:59:03] Sylvie Canada : Don't be shy to share :)

 [16:04:30] Abdazez Syria: Mhadhartna will be in Arabic that you wish Tamno translator by you

[16:05:41] Abdazez Syria: Will we communicate across this room, or is it there another arrangement through the second program

[16:06:12] cafe ottawa: you can give a video link in this room

[16:06:18] cafe ottawa: if there is one

[16:07:22] Abdazez Syria: Very sorry if we wish to be broadcast deliberations j be the best

[16:07:42] Sylvie Canada : If you give us a link we can share with our community here

[16:08:38] Abdazez Syria: If this is difficult, I can contact you and Madam Becky Tnkulain Hsopky of what is going on in the hall of the Arab Center for Human Rights

[16:09:30] Sylvie Canada : Perfect - keep us informed

11 - Sylvie – Juan Carlos( call)

[16:23:13] cafe ottawa: at the moment juan carlos is conversing with sylvie about global gobernance

[17:01:54] *** café ottawa2 a invité Juan Carlos   Espana***

[17:02:02] café ottawa2: binevendia juan carlosen la sala de conversation general

[17:07:02] Juan Carlos  EspanaIglesias: gracias

[17:07:55] café ottawa2: si juan  esperabamos que nos acceptaras como contacten skype para poderte incluir en esta sala  que funcciona por escrito y permite relaciones entres participantes  et informaciones practicas

la puedes registrar en tu contacto como "ottawa café fsm"

[17:13:21] Juan Carlos  EspanaIglesias: ok

[17:15:16] cafe ottawa: http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-narrative aqui esta un recuento por chris en australia de que paso ayer el perfil de los particpantes esta aquí http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants-list

[17:16:09] Juan Carlos  EspanaIglesias: merci

 [17:17:38] cafe ottawa: tu nos hay lleando el formulario de participacion ? no te encontramos en la lista https://docs.google.com/forms/d/16CWRrCsnjC_ugftEoHfDItaQB0vdaP-ZUJA94hf02GQ/viewform

[17:18:37] cafe ottawa: esto es el formulario para dar su perfil

[17:19:00] Juan Carlos  EspanaIglesias: no lo he rellenado todavia

[17:19:13] cafe ottawa: pues si

12 - Louis – eric  ( call )

13 - Update of narrative page- mise  ajour de la narration

[16:45:58] Chris Australia: Additional links added to the PSF Day 1 Narrative page here, http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-narrative

[16:47:08] Chris Australia: Are these links helpful for WSFCafe and PSF-Extended people to understand what happened last Thursday, at the commencement of Ottawa's Peoples' Social Forum?

14 - Anyone in the room? Qui est dans la sale?

 [16:50:50] uddhab pyakurel: yes

[16:51:00]  Eric, Bénin: bonsoir

[16:51:53] Sylvie Canada : Eric bonsoir - tu veux m'appeler sur la ligne swfcafefsm.ottawa2?

[16:52:44]  Eric, Bénin: ok

 [17:52:13] café ottawa2: hello anyone here? y a t'il quelqu'un dans la salle?

[17:52:35] Maher Egypt : Yes

[17:52:43] café ottawa2: aaahhh  finally

[17:57:21] Hassan Maroc: hello

[18:06:20] CATHERINE, MAROC: salut les amis je catherine du maroc comment va ottawa?

[18:06:50] Abdazez Syria: hello

[18:06:56] Hassan Maroc: hello

[18:07:04] Abdazez Syria: i am ready

[18:07:13] Hassan Maroc: ok

[18:07:33]  Eric, Bénin: Slt Catherine

[18:07:59] Abdazez Syria: i want anyone from otawa

[18:08:24] cafe ottawa: hello eeryone

[18:09:03] Hassan Maroc: What is the theme of the Day I want to see friends who discuss the topic

[18:14:49]  Eric, Bénin: Can you speak french

[18:15:49] Hassan Maroc: ok Je peux parler français. De n'importe quel pays vous parlez

 [18:17:39] Maher Egypt : can some one tells me what is the time there now ? in Ottawa

[18:18:00] Sylvie Canada : In Ottawa it is 12:17 Today in Ottawa there were about 20 various workshops and the afternoon is mostly focused on assemblies

[18:19:05] Hassan Maroc: Je ne sais pas la date exacte

[18:19:20]  Eric, Bénin: Je suis du benin

[18:19:24] Maher Egypt : Thank You

[18:19:27]  Eric, Bénin: Afrique de l'ouest

[18:19:55] Hassan Maroc: heureux de vous rencontrer

[18:20:11]  Eric, Bénin: Enchanté

15 - Sylvie assembly US social forum

[18:20:49] Sylvie Canada : I will attend an assembly on the US social forum at 13:00 as I'm curious on the willingness and readiness of Americans to change the world and at 4:00 - one assembly on the future of social forums

So we continue to support the building of world social forums in Tunis and in Montreal and if we can, to support the building of the national and regional of social forums

16 - Maher looking for streams – pad for commenting streams- maher cherche des streams – des pads pour commenter les videos

[18:22:38] Maher Egypt : any Links of live stream ?

[18:23:18] Sylvie Canada : Not now but we should have few life streams this afternoon

[18:23:46] Maher Egypt : That would be Nice

[18:23:52] Hassan Maroc: Vous savez, mes amis que lorsque l'empire Romain a battu plusieurs empires, et n'a pas trouvé de la concurrence a commencé à s'effriter sur sa propre

[18:23:54] Sylvie Canada : Gustavo - do you have a link of what what filmed this morning?

[18:25:01]  Eric, Bénin: Chers amis j'ai une proposition à vous faire

[18:25:13] Maher Egypt : who is keeping the list of all live stream/videos links in the forum ? because i would like to have it

[18:26:11] café ottawa2: a goodquestion maher

[18:26:26] café ottawa2: chris is censing it and also editing it here

[18:27:32] Maher Egypt : i think its better to have all in website link with menu/nav bar that show the categories/type of these videos

we can use Wordpress sytem to have it there and its easy to be managed

WELCOME TO RISEUP'S ETHERPAD!

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 WARNING: This pad will be DELETED if 30 days go by with no edits. There is NO WAY to recover the pad after this happens, so be careful!

 

17 – Continue after PSF -Continuer après le FSP - Eric

[18:26:52]  Eric, Bénin: Vu l'importance que chacun de nous attache à ce groupe et à l'intérêt des sans voix, je propose que nous continuons de discuter sur ce groupe même après le forum

[18:27:26] Sylvie Canada : Y

 [18:27:34] Hassan Maroc: bien

[18:27:54] Sylvie Canada : Oui c cet une bronne IEEE

 [18:28:34] Hassan Maroc: Chose the topic we are discussing

[18:28:37]  Eric, Bénin: Pour conserver les liens de solidarité voire créer un réseau de défense pouvant nous permettre de partager nos infos et de savoir comment mener une lutte d'une autre façon

18 - Themes of today ?  list of streams?

[18:33:17] Maher Egypt : Hello, i am not following you all. can any one tell me what is the theme of today?

[18:35:57] Chris Australia: It is a collection of Movement Assemblies, final day of Convergences tomorrow (Ottawa time).  This format is known to most World Social Forum attendees, and I expect will be similar in Tunis 2015?

 [18:37:43] café ottawa2: chris is editing the links here :

[18:38:21] Maher Egypt : Thank u and thanks to Chris :)

[18:38:59] Maher Egypt : Chris, any groups/movement from egypt

[18:39:11] café ottawa2: http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-medialivestreaming

[18:40:58] café ottawa2: maher this is the place where the list of videos can be edied, chirs is working in the narrative page

[18:42:38] Maher Egypt : let me help if you needed any with online matters as i have a good skills in web design/php developing

[18:42:43] Chris Australia: Maher, As there are 17 independent themes running throughout PSF Ottawa (over 500 activities), can expect many Movement Assemblies.  They are all listed here, http://static.squarespace.com/static/52faa83fe4b00ea56bbb527a/t/53f4ad5ae4b02de8411c3719/1408544090885/PSF_eprogNnn.pdf  p46-47

[18:43:36] Chris Australia: Mohamed is from Egypt

[18:44:48] café ottawa2: http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-medialivestreaming

http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-narrative

eric and maher and who wants you can watch some videos and comment them freely on the pad here https://pad.riseup.net/p/comments-psf-livestreams-in-wsfcafe-ottawa

[18:45:57] Chris Australia: There are other Egypt participants listed among the 33; here http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants-list

[18:46:05] café ottawa2: this is the pad anyone can edit

[18:54:00] Chris Australia: The PSF-Extended group now commences Livestreaming of Movement Assemblies listed here, http://openfsm.net/projects/canada-etand-fsmwsf/psfextension-list-extended-psf-fsp-activities , Lines 2, 4 and 9

[19:03:28] Chris Australia: and their corresponding interactions (if you have already registered) are at public Skypes fnmipedago &  seizethedata.extension, and Facebook chat PFSaltmedia respectively

20140825-ottawa-054.JPG 

streaming live assembly of ussf - video en direct de l'assemblée Ussf

 

19 - Hassan Sylvie Maher USSF

[19:06:11] Hassan Maroc: Are you on the line ?

[19:06:11] Sylvie Canada : I Will ben chatting while listening into the US sonically forum 3 - waiting for some participants

[19:07:25] Hassan Maroc: That's how I was admitted to the hall via Skype to participate in Thread

[19:07:30] Maher Egypt : at rabbles when it will start ?

[19:07:57] cafe ottawa: now 1pm canada time is the second slot start for assemblies

[19:08:18] Maher Egypt : now started :)

[19:10:36] Hassan Maroc: I am watching peaple social of rabble

[19:13:00] Sylvie Canada : Walda and Jerome will be our host for this forum. Jay Sen is in the room too...he is well-known author on the social forums ... I'm already looking forward to our discussion :)

[19:13:28] cafe ottawa: ah yes is there any streaming avaialable

[19:14:24] cafe ottawa: ?

[19:14:58] Sylvie Canada : sadly no but I have a computer is anyone is available....

[19:15:15] Hassan Maroc: www.rabble.ca

[19:15:30] Maher Egypt : http://rabble.ca/rabbletv u can stream for us if u can

[19:16:47] Maher Egypt : any translation in http://rabble.ca/rabbletv its french now

[19:16:56] cafe ottawa: maher what is this streaming about ?

18 - Link to indigenous assembly

[19:17:37] Gustavo Canada: Here is the link to the Movement Assembly on solidarity with indigenous peoples: https://new.livestream.com/accounts/9527600/events/3319225

19 - Gabrielle workshop streamed ?

[19:18:45] Maher Egypt : now its in English Gabrial an auther is talking

[19:23:23] cafe ottawa: what it is about ?

[19:24:27] Maher Egypt : the changes if every thing she s sharing some ideas from her book and how it effects on Gobal issues like Captalism

20 – Streams by media  undocumented ?

 [19:25:27] cafe ottawa: thre is also  alive stream here : http://www.ustream.tv/channel/www-99media-org-live but they do no announce what it is

[19:32:45] Maher Egypt : any one is present in the room where Naomi Klein speaking?

[19:35:06] Hassan Maroc: Peace linked to stay away from religious conflicts and ethnic and racial

 

21 - Info fromIraq

[19:29:46] cafe ottawa: also received from iraq today

Dear colleagues

Hope this e mail finds you well. the following link is the life streaming of the Symposium held by Tammuz Org. with in the frame work of the ISF activities to preserve Peaceful coexistence, under the title "Hatred Pyramid and ways of achieving Social Justice Tolerance" held in Tammuz Org headquarters.. Broad casting will start at 10.30 am Baghdad time.

Hope you Join us

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3Zjuh6eGAc

 

22 - Sylvie streaming Ussf forum assembly – Sylvie stream l’assemblée ussf

[19:29:22] Sylvie Canada : Hope to start my live stream once the participants have finished their introduction for the US social forum 3 say tuned

[19:31:41] Sylvie Canada : Live streaming now http://New.livestream.com/accounts/9724383/events/3319933  Another world is possible, a different US is necessary

[19:38:56] Gustavo Canada: Sylvie, I accessed the link. The video has not started yet

[19:39:19] Hassan Maroc: America wants to govern alone, but must understand the world is made up of several countries must share in the ideas and Altmanip and the economy and not wars

[19:39:36] Sylvie Canada : The next US social Forum will be "polycentric" social forum, gathering people in critical locations around the country, connecting us in person and via the web to deepen our political analyses and build alliances and strategies for social transformation.  Www.ussocialforum.net

[19:40:53] cafe ottawa: thanks sylvie for the notes :) and the streaming

[19:41:17] Sylvie Canada : Get a copy of the PMA -people movement assembly- toolkit at http://abc.ussf2010.org/assemblies

[19:43:49] Gustavo Canada: I can see http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9724383/events/3319160

[19:43:53] Gustavo Canada:  (Gustavo here)I'll tweet about it Sylvie -

[19:44:41] cafe ottawa: :)

[19:45:05] Sylvie Canada : Thanks - very interesting - bring more people here- very friendly space ...

The people movement assembly process will be used - 2104 movement school - 2015 - polycentric forum in Philadelphia, Jackson and San Jose 24-30 June will offer 60% people assembly and 40% workshops and 2016 Assembly of assemblies

A lot of strategic thinking going on

Movement school - strategic and tactic thinking and thoughts of politically unity

Must have a global movement - think about what do we start? US, canada and Mexico and a first unity to move towards global unity

23 - Joining the livestream? Requires subscribing to livestream

[20:03:32] cafe ottawa: i cannot see becasue i cannot join the livestream http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9724383/events/3319160

[20:04:10] cafe ottawa: i do not receive the mail subscribption

[20:04:30] Gustavo Canada: did you check the junk mail folder?or spam folder?

[20:06:23] cafe ottawa: thanks

[20:07:44] Sylvie Canada : Will me know if it is working ...otherwise I might need help in changing the settings

24 - Pierre With Sylvie inn ussf assemblie

[20:23:45] cafe ottawa: now watching sylvies stream anyone here ? hello bonsoir

[20:35:00] Maher Egypt : Yes

[20:38:04] cafe ottawa: :)

[20:44:02] Sylvie Canada : Now with sylvie in the us social forum assembly.

[20:44:24] Maher Egypt : watching

[20:45:37] Sylvie Canada : Sylvie is now a certified  streamer ....

[20:48:18] cafe ottawa: that me saying it :)

[20:48:43] Maher Egypt : can i have the notes if any one have of what u talked about i just joined

[20:49:09] cafe ottawa: sylvie has put in the room seeralnotes so just scroll up maher

[20:49:43] Maher Egypt : thank you

[20:49:54] cafe ottawa: do you see sylvie notes

[20:50:52] Maher Egypt : yes i saw it

25 - Proposing input to Maher in the ussf assembly- propose a maher d’intervenir dans l’assemblée ussf

Maher is there anything you want to say ? in this assembleywe can voice it for you :)

 [20:51:01] cafe ottawa: it can be a plain testimony also that you are watching this from egypt and any comment it may trigger

it would be great what do you think?

[20:52:43] Maher Egypt : yes for sure.being united always comes from the country then it can be Globaled and i can talk about Activista an International Network for activists

[20:54:36] cafe ottawa: can you make your statement clearer :)

[20:55:12] Maher Egypt : i can join by skype as vioce but can not stream right now,: my connection wont make a good stream

[20:55:52] cafe ottawa: am not speaking of voice  - am spekaing of a three five line written text ! [20:56:36] cafe ottawa: that we will read in the room in your name

 [20:56:26] Maher Egypt : Sure

 [20:58:37] Sylvie Canada : There are 150 million poor people living in USA There is an alignment of issues and there is a willingness to come together to construct a better world.Better world vision - basic income, promote human rights, becoming human right defender

[21:02:37] Maher Egypt : i would like to talk about being united and in an active groups in egypt. as we know most of us that egypt faced many changes in the past years even before 2011 revolution and that made an open way for making lots of movement and Political Parties and Social Groups but that always go down most of the time as they end facing the government so what i think is as there is corruption there is always fight back from government against all movements or groups that wants to make changes

[21:02:46] Sylvie Canada : Affordable ecologically sound housing,Accessible and sustainable energy,Get rid of banking institutions -death trap

[21:04:44] Maher Egypt : so we tried to make it Globaled n get support from all activist around the world but in same time we forgot about people inside the country because the media and Police are owned by the government

[21:05:09] cafe ottawa: (maher this statment is focused  about egypt -  it would be good to focus on the theme of this assemblys and how the us- canada forum organizing can be useful to people in egypt somehow ....)what do you think?

[21:08:28] Maher Egypt : people in us n canada have more ways to show up thier cases (as TV and Radio) comparing to egypt, and for us as egyptian that will be a wonderful help for our egyptian cases as they can take our cases more wider. so what i suggest is making or join Global networks like "Activista" network around the world in 35+ country as i am a member in activista Egypt  http://www.actionaid.org/activista to share and help each other for supporting cases. PS: TV and Radios in egypt and most of the arab country are owned by Government or people with Power. so normal people wont be able to make it

[21:10:51] cafe ottawa: thanks maher

 [21:12:43] Maher Egypt : u are welcome

[21:24:20] cafe ottawa: we just read it

[21:24:50] Maher Egypt : Yap Activista :)Thak you

 [21:27:11] cafe ottawa: so now it is in the notes of this assemby

[21:27:57] Maher Egypt : Can u put the Camera alil bit down any one there, how can people involve Police or Military into action by talking as they are in many countries represt the ruling regime?

 [21:50:13] Sylvie Canada : A very good question ...sadly we will not have time to ask our participants for their input as we need to move

[21:50:26] Maher Egypt : Its OkayThank you for that great talk

 

20140825-ottawa-055.JPG streaming live assembly of connexions between forums -with on line comments by wsf café participants

video en direct de l'assemblée des connexions entre forums avec des commentaires en lignes des participants au café fsm

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26 - Moving to next assembly on social forums- en route vers assemble sur forums sociaux

[21:47:07] Sylvie Canada : Yes we are ready fro your questions.For your information we will be moving in anew building to attend the assembly of social forums at about 4:00 pm

 [22:05:51] café ottawa2: allo no vox togo

[22:06:26] Toussaint Togo : OK

[22:06:41] café ottawa2: salut toussaint

[22:08:41] *** café ottawa2 a invité xxx 2907 ***

[22:11:23] Toussaint Togo : oui comment se deroule le forum?

[22:11:39] Sylvie Canada : Rendez-vous Tabaret salle 70

27 - Nommer la salle skype dans son ordinateur

[22:11:54] café ottawa2: maintenant no vox togo a renommé la salle de conversation dans son ordinateur " ottawa café fsm"

[22:12:45] café ottawa2: sylvie dès que tu peux donne lle ien video toussaint du togo va assister pendant au moins deu heres

[22:17:04] Sylvie Canada : http://New.livestream.com/accounts/9724383/events/3319160 

[22:17:20] Sylvie Canada : Just need to remember how to start the video Session will be in French

 [22:21:01] Maher Egypt : Voice is really hard is it only me ?Thank you

[22:24:17] Sylvie Canada : Had some conflicts with the translators. ( result in a unnoticed livestream record stoppage ) .. Is it better ?

We are doing the introduction of participants now

[22:25:52] Sylvie Canada : The question o n the board is How social forum can help you in moving your causes forward

 [22:27:01] Maher Egypt : Yes its much better thank you if u have any translator i think u can take a mic-in wire into ur laptop mic and then u can take voice as translation in english

 [22:29:32] Sylvie Canada : Pierre will be joining us soon so better he can help with the translation

[22:31:20] café ottawa2: hello everyone

28 – on translation Maher suggesting spiders- pour la traduction

[22:31:26] Maher Egypt : Hello do u ahve translators with spiders? i can provide u a radio channel where u just need to plugin a mic-input and i can get the translation

 [22:34:52] café ottawa2: the sound is very good

[22:38:29] Maher Egypt : Pierre do u have any spiders ? for translation

[22:39:11] café ottawa2: this is an assembly in french  about connections in scial forums especialyin quebec and in view of world social forum 2016 mondial in montréal

[22:40:11] café ottawa2: no i do not have

[22:40:11] Maher Egypt : okay i see

 

29 - Eric et Toussaint- geeting to watch - s’installent pour regarder

[22:25:48] Toussaint Togo : je ne vois pas ta video

La question est comment les forum sociaux peuvent vous aider dans vos luttes respectives?

 [22:35:33] Toussaint Togo : alo pierre la video n'est pas clair

[22:35:46] café ottawa2: elle est tres bonne pour le son

[22:36:18] Toussaint Togo : le son oui mais pas clair

[22:37:07]  Eric, Bénin: salut

[22:37:21] Toussaint Togo : salut eric

[22:37:38] café ottawa2: eric voici le lien video http://New.livestream.com/accounts/9724383/events/3319160

[22:37:59]  Eric, Bénin: Toussaint ça va?

 [22:38:26] Toussaint Togo : oui

 [22:40:31]  Eric, Bénin: je télécharge

[22:40:56] café ottawa2: telécharge ou regarde ?

30 - Lopsiwa basse connectivité

[22:41:07] Lopsiwa Cameroun: oh lala, je rate beaucoup d'informations et ceci ne dépend de moi ma connexion est très faible je reçois  les notifications mais je ne parviens pas a les lire

[22:41:51] Lopsiwa Cameroun: bonsoir chers tous

[22:41:12] Sylvie Canada : maher if you stay online I can revise some translations as we get into the discussions -would you be interested?

[22:41:56] Maher Egypt : sure would be great thank you

[22:42:41] Toussaint Togo : eric sa marche pour toi le video?

31 - Protocols pour accede au livestream

[22:42:42]  Eric, Bénin: mon poste demande un téléchargement je ne sais si c'est à cause de la connexion

[22:43:36] Maher Egypt : now download is required if u use Chrome as a browser but some other browsers migh need Flash player by Adobe

[22:43:51] café ottawa2: thanks maher   pour moi il n'y a rien a télécharger  just a s'incrire

 [22:44:21]  Eric, Bénin: ça me demande encore de me joindre au facebook

[22:44:39] Toussaint Togo : OUI pareille que moi

 [22:45:09] café ottawa2: est ce que c'est par ce que vous utilisez chrome? comme dit maher

[22:45:16] Maher Egypt : eric u will need an acount for live stream website to see it clear and its free

[22:45:31]  Eric, Bénin: je vais relancer pour voir autrement je telecharge chrome

[22:46:49] Maher Egypt : eric just sign up with the website so u can see the video because the broadcaster is using a free account

[22:47:01] Maher Egypt : just make an account and its free

[22:47:22] Toussaint Togo : comme sa demande de se joinddre a facebook on fair comment  pierre

[22:48:01] café ottawa2: tu peux créer un compte avec ton mail sans passer par facebook

[22:48:11] Maher Egypt : u can sign up with ur facebook account also

[22:48:26] Toussaint Togo : comment ?

[22:49:07] café ottawa2: vous puvez psser par facebook aussi

http://New.livestream.com/accounts/9724383/events/3319160

 [22:49:42] Toussaint Togo : OK je vais esaiyer

[22:50:06] café ottawa2: l'image et e son sont très bons

[22:50:24] Toussaint Togo : image pas bien, sylvie ta video demande de ce joindre à facebook

[22:54:09] Lopsiwa Cameroun: bonsoir chers tous

[22:54:22] café ottawa2: beinvenue lopsiwa :)

[22:54:36] café ottawa2: maintenant tu peux chercher a vir la video ici

[22:54:41] Lopsiwa Cameroun: merci ok,je m'y mets de suite

[22:55:09] café ottawa2: http://New.livestream.com/accounts/9724383/events/3319160

[22:55:16] café ottawa2: voici le lien

[22:55:33] Lopsiwa Cameroun: j'ai déjà cliquer sur le lien pour l'ouvrir le lien est deja prêt a s'ouvrir

[22:56:44] Lopsiwa Cameroun: mais on me demande comment je souhaite y accéder via Yahoo ou Facebook?

[22:56:43] café ottawa2: il faut s'inscrire pour voir la video est ce que tout le monde a pu se connecter ?

[22:57:41] Toussaint Togo : comment l'inscription?

[22:58:34] café ottawa2: "join with email"tu ecris ton mail et ensuite tu recois un message dans ta boite aux lettre et tu confirmes ne cliquant sur un lien

[23:01:20]  Eric, Bénin: sur mon portable ça marche

[23:02:27] café ottawa2: ca va?

[23:03:10] Toussaint Togo : non pas du tout

[23:03:32] café ottawa2: qu'est ce qui te bloque toussaint?

[23:03:48]  Eric, Bénin: ça marche très bien sur une version android

[23:04:03] café ottawa2: eric  lopsiwa ça va?

[23:04:56] Toussaint Togo : ca demande se joindre a facebok jai fai l'inscription sa ne pas toujour

[23:10:07] café ottawa2: si vous avez des remarques - et des questions ecrivez les ici et dans la meure du possible sylvie et moi on va les lire dans la salle

eric ca va ?  lopsiwa ça va ?

eric m'a dit qu'il entendait le son c'est l'essentiel

 

32 - Commentaries  en anglais par Sylvie pour maher

 [22:45:16] Sylvie Canada : Raphael canet is our facilitator he is professor in Ottawa on Globalization and international development. He has encouraged Collectives to attend World social forums .

He is also involved in the planning for the WSF Montreal in 2016

He's providing information on the process of presenting a candidature for Montreal - as a first forum in the North

As a way to have the South coming to help the North ...

[22:49:58] Maher Egypt : thank you Sylvie i am still following what u say

 [22:51:28] Sylvie Canada : The south has many lessons to share ... We need help to change our government

We need Canadians to realize that we have a south in our north

We need Canadians to realize that we have many alignment in our issues so

Let invite the south so maybe you can have the social forums in the large Media

We can have more exposure of the role of the North in the creation of the struggles in the south so that Civil society (at large ) can unite

He's sharing the process of the international Committee for the selection of the site for the WSF at Casablanca in 2013.

Montreal would have like 2015 just before the election but after collaborative discussions with everyone the site for 2015 is Tunis and for 2016 in Montreal

[22:58:41] Maher Egypt : i see

 [23:00:27] Sylvie Canada : There might be an occasion for India to also join in 2016 - in discussions ...

: Of importance is the process of WSF overall so we must already start thinking about Tunis 2015 first to continue building and attracting more groups at more levels

The question was related to the cost of the WSF and the fear about the police

[23:08:30] Sylvie Canada : The question is therefore about the access of the South to Montreal

[23:08:50] Maher Egypt : Cost as money or which cost he mean, and Police!!!

 [23:11:18] Sylvie Canada : A forum cost about $1M for the host... The police did block students during the printemps Erable so it is expected that the same could happen again...

[23:11:49] Maher Egypt : i see

33 - Sujet des visas  in canada– issue of visas

[23:11:55] café ottawa2: someone raised theissue of the difficulty of people to get visas to canada

[23:12:19] Maher Egypt : Good point i was thinking about that :)

[23:13:13] café ottawa2: c'est pourquoi on fait l'extnsion  :) pour rendre plus facile l'accès et la participation

[23:13:43] Maher Egypt : yes extention is good for that :) but being there is more effective i think

[23:14:43] café ottawa2: yes of course  but streaming and participation is 60% as being there

[23:15:08] Maher Egypt : True

[23:15:41] Toussaint Togo : comment penser vous mobilisé les africain au fsm de 2016 au quebec? car le problem de visa se pose en afrique

 [23:16:48] café ottawa2: oui bien sur  toussaint  - on pense que des collectifs comme celui que tu as créé peuvent aider

http://openfsm.net/projects/collectiffsmafriquedeouest/project-home

[23:17:10] Toussaint Togo : oui mais comment?

[23:17:20] Maher Egypt : how is it Diffecult to have a place like universies or camps which have good internet n rooms for hosting the forum in the hosted country because as an IT it was hard to make it in egypt 2013 but we surrvived after all with help from many people but there was a better way to make it ?

http://openfsm.net/projects/egyptian-social-forum-for-youth-2013/project-home

[23:17:32] café ottawa2: et pour le visa et le cout bien sur ce sont des obstacles - et il faut profiter de montréal pour faire des activités du forum 2016 EN AFRIQUE

[23:18:08] café ottawa2: sylve explique comment elle a organisée une conference de paix avec l'iran,en s'appyant sur la diasora arabe et moyen orient a montréal

[23:18:58] café ottawa2: maher it is a learning process ....now here people are speaking pros and cons and possibiitities

[23:20:03] Maher Egypt : i see u can write in french i can use translator

34 -Partenaires pour organiser les forums

[23:20:09] Toussaint Togo : oui nous avons trouvé des partenaire pour organisé ses forum sociaux?

 [23:21:13] Toussaint Togo : pierre je disai ou trouver des partenaire pour organisé ses forum sociaux?

 [23:20:18] café ottawa2: quelqu'un parle de l'effort fait a ottawa pour l'extension

[23:21:48] café ottawa2: dans les organisations et mouvements africains

[23:22:51] Maher Egypt : but i do not think that its allowed for companies as sponsers, right?

[23:23:23] café ottawa2: no not really :)

[23:24:16] Maher Egypt : for exmaple Pepsi can make its own advertisments and make branding in order to support the forum with money

[23:25:20] café ottawa2: no this is ruled out by the guiding priniciples

[23:25:44] Maher Egypt : i thought that too

http://openfsm.net/projects/organizingwsfevents/project-home

[23:27:56] Toussaint Togo : avant le forum de tunisie il ya le forum de dakar du 15 au 19 octobre

35  combined participation –centered/local  Participation combine-centrée locale- Pierre

[23:28:40] Sylvie Canada : Pierre is making a point that the social forum is a process - so we need to think about how we support the other forums at the same time.A combined participation for our local event and the global event... He is encouraging the holding long-distance videoconference to reduce fees

[23:30:26] Toussaint Togo : je suis tout a fait d'acord de votre intervention.vous devez aidez les africain pour l'obtention du visa pour le forum de 2016

[23:31:45] Toussaint Togo : oui

[23:31:52] Sylvie Canada : C'est tout compris...

[23:32:57] café ottawa2: merci toussaint :) j'ai pris l'exemple du togo pour parler de la participation combinée, combinée entre quelques délégués au forum central et une large activité local dan s  tous les pays

[23:33:35] Sylvie Canada : Our participant is comparing the access for soccer games ...our forum should be as easy

36 - Visas 2

[23:33:49] Toussaint Togo : il fau que le mouvement social mondial reagise sur les questiondes visa pour l'afrique

 [23:36:17] café ottawa2: toussaint catherine a parlé de la façon d'affronter le défi des visas

[23:36:33] Toussaint Togo : ok : merci catherine

[23:36:52] café ottawa2: catherine  jdepuis que je participe au forum j'avance plus vite avec des réseaux ui sont exponentiels

[00:13:29] café ottawa2: touesssaint la personne qui a répondu sur les visas c'est catharina qui est très impliquée dans l'organisation de montéral

[00:13:45] Toussaint Togo : ok

 

37 - Mohieddine de/from tunis  organizing committee

: maintenant c'est mouhieddine qui parle  -un organisateur du fourm a tunis en 2015

[23:38:39] Toussaint Togo : nous avons constatez il ya pas une forte mobilisation autour du forum de tunis pourquoi?

[23:39:53] café ottawa2: il reste a chaque organisation a sn niveau d'expliquer l'importance des forums et comment elle a contribuer a sa réussite ( en prenant une conception  "étendue")

mouhieddine explique le manque de financement central actuel pour tunis 2015, il explique comment l'image du pays est importante pour peser sur l'attitude du grouvenement du pays organisateur

He is encouraging us to engage the government now...

[23:45:33] café ottawa2: cava eric et toussaint?

[23:45:51] Toussaint Togo : oui

[23:53:05] café ottawa2: pas organiser un evènement mais  créer les conditions de se parler entre mouveents

[23:57:47] Toussaint Togo : quel est le chemin à prendre pour les problem de visa ? c sa qui nous préocupe nous les africain sylvie je t'invite au forum social africain à dakar du 15 au 19 octobre

38 - English translation by sylvie

[23:35:41] Sylvie Canada : Caterina is suggesting that we think in terms of challenges... Not problems... We need to plan now how we communicate with Canadians about the access for visa... Make it an issue of communications with Canadians...

Sylvie Canada : Mouhieddine is an organizer for Tunis 2015 and he's sharing his concerns and issues about his planning process.

 [23:47:14] Maher Egypt : i would like to share when egypt went to tunis 2013 we took a list of paricipants to the embassy and had an aprovement but that would make a problem for other personswho are not belong to any organization and also would put many under some organization Authority

[23:47:48] Sylvie Canada : Dominance of power and money is the only problem we all face and it is an issue for WSF Montreal in 2016 too....

[23:48:16] café ottawa2: raphael- le pouvoir et l'argent ne dovent pas nous intimider- alors que nous sommes dans une pays ou la société civile a plus de pouvoir pour surmonter ces défis

[23:49:29] Maher Egypt : that was easy but if candian NGOs who have a good link with the Government would do the same

[23:50:13] Sylvie Canada : People become aware of their own power to influence the success of social forums here and elsewhere

We were encouraged to start financing now and the visa process now. We are encouraged to consolidate the lessons of the present forum to build the right foundations for WSF 2016

jay sen is encouraging us to think of the power of movements in social transformation - to leverage their resources, tools and experiences.Movements provide for political legitimacy.Forums need transnational solidarity -a meeting that matters to us....

[00:06:04] Chris Australia: My preference is for Convergences - they focus the minds of the many to accommodate the 'other's' right to exist, to have opinions, and to be correct when we are not.  Convergences are expansive, without being belittling.

[00:06:49] Chris Australia: It is Sunday, 7:30am.  Where are all the Convergences I was promised? :^)We are streamlining now and we streamlined the US forums check the links...When I went to bed it was Livestreaming, now we are Streamlining.  Did I miss something? (worry)

[00:11:21] Sylvie Canada : We are still in great mood and high motivation to learn from this forum and establish stronger foundations for future forums.I'm personally looking forward to the people assembly tomorrow... While still learning for this session

[00:15:34] Maher Egypt : well its 1:15 AM and i can carry On :)

39 - Comments Eric –toussaint

[00:08:22] Toussaint Togo : eric tu es là?

[00:09:18] café ottawa2: la premiere etape est de reconnaitre le defi, maintenant qu on le voit venir il faudra reflechir collectivement a ce que l on peut faire. Je veux dire d une part ici en commencant les demarches avec les autorites responsables des visas et de votre cote en demandant des maintenant aux ambassades canadiennes quels sont les criteres d evaluation des dossiers en vue d obtenir un visa pour le Canada. Cela dit il n y aura pas de solution miracles ou meme facile mais je crois qu il faut avant tout y croire et y travailler. J ai un jour apris dans un FSM que l on peut essayer de tout nous enlevermais l on ne pourra nous enlever nos reves...tant qu ils existent... courage mon ami!

[00:10:59]  Eric, Bénin: débat très intéressants la pression sur les autorités doit faire d'une grande mobilisation pour leur démontrer le forum est  plus solidaire plus organisé que le sommet de G20

il va falloir avoir ou mettre à la disposition des organisation des contacts mails avec un message collectif

les organisations vont envoyer le message dans le lequel nous allons nous exprimer circonstanciellement pour demander les visas

40 - Gabrielle workhsop

[00:14:18] Chris Australia: It seems like our Line 14 workshop person Gabrielle had a productive day too, over on Twittersphere, : Followed by Gusțavo Frederic Gabrielle V Fayant ‏@GabrielleFayant  25m

Thank you to Laura Leonard Originals for providing rattles for our performance today! Check out her fb page: http://www.facebook.com/LauraLeonardOriginals  … #psf2014

[00:15:44] cafe ottawa: :)

[00:16:32] Chris Australia: It seems like our Zapatista friends struck a resonant Ottawan chord;

Ushnish Sengupta ‏@ultush  23m

#psf2014 #zapatista principles came from ancient #indigenous knowledge and is a reclamation of a way of life  pic.twitter.com/OWP1T1euXV

[00:19:35] Toussaint Togo : pierre j'entends la voie de carminda je pense?

[00:21:18] Sylvie Canada : Thérèse parlait

41 - Sylvie et Dakar

[00:22:18] Toussaint Togo : sylvie tu sera au forum de dakar en octobre?

[00:22:26] Sylvie Canada : We must inform as quickly as possible about the 3 months timeline for acceptance

[00:23:20] Maher Egypt : for tunis or canada or both ?!!

[00:23:53] Chris Australia: Tunis first

[00:24:08] Sylvie Canada : Je débute mon doctorat en septembre alors Dakar en personne n'est pas à on programme. Mais j'espère me brancher via le café

[00:24:27] Toussaint Togo : super

vous PENSEZ envoyer les invitation combien de temp avant le forum?

[00:24:37] Sylvie Canada : Pour le Canada ...

[00:24:50] Maher Egypt : ok

[00:26:37] Chris Australia: Sylvie, je suis en congé sabbatique à long terme de mes études de doctorat. Après 4 ans d'études, si difficile, mais seulement une année sabbatique. Je suis toujours enthousiaste et motivé.

[00:28:31] Sylvie Canada : Je suis motivée maintenant et on verra pour le futur :)

[00:30:24] Chris Australia: Avez-vous réglé sur une question de recherche?

[00:31:49] Sylvie Canada : J'ai une bonne idée - bâtir le discours du droit et pouvoir décisionnel de la société civile dans la gouvernance mondiale

[00:36:36] Chris Australia: J'aime déjà. Est votre fond plus dans la loi ou dans la gouvernance?

[00:38:41]  Eric, Bénin: pas mal comme proposition Sylvie

42 - Evenement G20 australie en novembre

[00:42:12] Sylvie Canada : Dans la gouvernance avec un angle important et critique pour les nations Unies

[00:43:45] Chris Australia: Are you coming to Katherine's WSF event, organised for the G99% as a post-G20 event in Brisbane, Australia in November? http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf2012-support/wsf2014-calendar , line 37.5

J'aime la recherche à faire sur une très large toile aussi. Que pensez-vous de l'appel du Secrétaire général des Nations Unies à tous les dirigeants du monde entier de se réunir à New York le 23 Septembre, pour essayer d'obtenir de Paris 2015 sur les changements climatiques processus sur les rails?

[00:48:35] Sylvie Canada : Malheureusement je reste sceptique que cette exercice demeure a un niveau trop artificiel mais j'aime ne pas avoir raison...

[J'aimerais bien être à Brisbane en novembre mais je serai sûrement en pleine rédaction de travaux mais j'espère être connectée

[00:51:35] Chris Australia: Si vous avez un travail écrit qui est publié ici là, s'il vous plaît laissez-nous savoir. Si ce n'est pas publiée, ne nous dites pas. Parce que je suis en Asie, le cœur si le plagiat ...

[00:53:55] cafe ottawa: salut chris  il y a eu beaucoup de commentaires en suivant l'asseblée ici à ottawa

43 – leaving – on se quitte

[00:54:25] Chris Australia: 7pm in Ottawa.  Is everyone eating a meal? (d) (pi)

[00:50:57] cafe ottawa: qui est encore avec nous ? :)

[00:55:42]  Eric, Bénin: moi

[00:55:43] cafe ottawa: not yet

[00:55:59] Maher Egypt : i had coffee:) thats my food for the past 5 hours :)

[00:56:26] Chris Australia: Les commentaires étaient favorables au concept de WSFCafe, ou des efforts stoïques et productifs de Sylvie, Gustavo, Pierre et l'équipe?

 [00:56:31] Sylvie Canada : Not yet we are preparing some proposals for the larger assembly tomorrow.My battery is dead so sorry for the end of live stream

[00:57:03] Maher Egypt : Thank you so much for ur help Sylvie and thank you every one

[00:57:18] Chris Australia: If it is only your battery, easily fixed.  One of the trials of a PhD candidate!

Thanks for joining us, Maher, and for your full and frank contributions.  Keep up the good work, in solidarity ...

[00:59:11] Maher Egypt : :)

[00:59:26] Chris Australia: :)

[00:59:56] Maher Egypt : i will try to be in tunis and hope to see u all there

[01:00:10] Chris Australia: Yes, me too.

44 -Tomorrow assemblies report – le rapport des assemblées demain

[01:03:30] Sylvie Canada : We will be back tomorrow for the people assembly.. A good way to pave the steps for the UN people assembly...

[01:04:41] Chris Australia:  and for Brisbane's G99%, where we might see Rabble and 99%Media attending.

[01:05:38] Chris Australia: I think Canada and France are still in the G99% (rofl)

[01:06:12] Eric, Bénin: helo

[01:06:24] Chris Australia: Hello Eric

[01:11:26] cafe ottawa: THANK YOU MAHER MERCI TOUSSAINT

[01:11:54] cafe ottawa:  eric tu peux revoir la discsusion sur le livestreamwe are closing for today - on arrete pour ce soir on se retrouve demain matin 9h heures canada

[01:13:50]  Eric, Bénin: YES a demain

45 - Skype logs of the day – le contenu de la sale skype  

[04:56:11] Chris Australia: I expect Day3 Skype Logs to be uploaded onto OpenFSM Narrative in 30 mins

24/08

1 - Eric maher chris

[10:02:55]  Eric, Bénin:   bonjour Chris

[10:06:16] Chris Australia: Bonjour Eric.  A little after 4am in Ottawa

[10:07:01]  Eric, Bénin: 9 am in benin

[10:07:43] Chris Australia: What is the outlook for your Sunday?

[11:51:46] Maher Egypt : mornong or afternoon from egypt

 [12:05:24] *** Pierre a invité nouhed ***

 [13:53:37] Chris Australia: Original Plan now is for a 3-hour Assembly of Social Movements, starting in 1 hour; see http://static.squarespace.com/static/52faa83fe4b00ea56bbb527a/t/53f4ad5ae4b02de8411c3719/1408544090885/PSF_eprogNnn.pdf , page 50

[13:54:16] Chris Australia: Is there any intention to livestream?

Has WSFCafe Ottawa officially closed its doors, or is opeation continuing unabated?  I guess it depends on availability of volunteers, and whether the Media Centre in the University Centre remains in operation.

20140825-ottawa-063.JPG   start of report of 17 assemblies on 24th morning  video here  -  début du compte rendu  des 17 assemblée la video est ici 

2 - Starting assembly with two livestreams – inviting questions -

[15:01:01] Sylvie Canada : Bonjour Sylvie a l'assemblée des peuples

[15:02:41] Chris Australia: Bonjour Sylvie, Is the Assembly as you expected?

[15:05:20] Sylvie Canada : The tent is filling in quickly. There will be two free live streams of this session : rabble.ca and livestream.com/occupy.toronto so we will have more time to chat during this session.

Please don't be shy to ask questions during the assembly.

[15:05:38] Toussaint Togo : bonjour le monde et le forum en ce moment

[15:06:40] Sylvie Canada : Bonjour à tous et toutes, nous nous préparons a la session

[15:07:15] Chris Australia: Alt-media Radio 107.1 is also broadcasting. PSF Alt Media Centre ‏@altmediacentre  1m

Forum social des peuples Radio 107.1 --> En direct a 10h: http://youtu.be/oWHOU3ogs8E   #fsp2014 #psf2014

[15:07:16] Toussaint Togo : kel sesion sylvie

[15:09:28] Chris Australia: Is Raphael to speak?  Will you also address the Assembly on behalf of the innovative WSFCafe Ottawa concept?

3 - Future of wsf café

[15:09:28] Chris Australia Do you think that WSFCafe shod be a standard feature of future FSMs, or only under certain circumstances?

[15:12:20] Sylvie Canada : Hello Chris, raphael had to leave yesterday as there is a international committee meeting in Montreal late today so yes I will be speaking on the social forums

Pierre, Gustavo and I will be meeting later it discuss the future of the cafe as we are very interested in being present at all the forums and there isa requirement for planning and resources

[15:14:55] Chris Australia: You are the right person to speak.  You have experiences the tugs and pressures throughout these four days.  I will keep an eye out for your time to present.

4 - Paul

[15:15:53] Sylvie Canada : Paul will be with me to present . He is an active actor in planning for the Montreal WSF.

[15:18:08] Chris Australia: What will Sylvie do after 12-midday?

Paul from Line 7 workshop, last Friday? http://openfsm.net/projects/canada-etand-fsmwsf/psfextension-list-extended-psf-fsp-activities

[15:22:13] Sylvie Canada : Pierre will be going to Montreal to attend the same meeting. So I might just relax after the session

[15:23:18] Chris Australia: Sure.  IC meetings are big events, and they have some difficult issues to resolve - Nepal, India ...

Well deserved. (coffee) You probably don't want to see another one of these for a log time?

5 - Location of wsf café?

[15:26:18] Chris Australia: WSFCafe Ottawa seemed in a perfect location, immediately adjacent to the Media Centre.  I guess that volunteer staffing was always going to be a limitation - yes?

[15:27:35] Sylvie Canada : Volunteers are blood for sure

Café location  was in Fss loby in fact  - see photos

http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-narrative

6 - Comment on assembly

[15:14:13] Toussaint Togo : comment se deroule le forum?

[15:15:02] Sylvie Canada : Auj est la dernière session - les gens se préparent encore..

[15:15:17] Toussaint Togo : ok

One of the main organizer from an important Quebec union is opening the assembly to speak of the 3 objectives for the forum : to gather the tree people under one roof, to plan to change the existing government and to hint of other alternatives in terms of the next government for our children , our ecology and work in solidarity. It's an ongoing process.

: The agenda is to gather the reporting from all assemblies and to discuss a call for action that was prepared by the organizers of the PSF and open discussion to share collective actions for coordinating our struggles and will close with a closing prayer.

J'espère que certains d'entre vous suivent les livrstream? Svp me confirmez pour savoir comment mieux communiquer avec vous.

 [15:39:38] Chris Australia: There is an audience of 11 watching the rabble.ca/RabbleTV livestream

[15:41:52] Sylvie Canada : Good - so step in to share comments or seek information . I invite all the participants to connect

[15:42:09] Sylvie Canada : Svp partagez vos perceptions et commentaires

20140825-ottawa-073.JPG

  report of assembly of alternate media - compte rendu assemblée des medias alternatifs ( video ici )

 

7 - Toussaint accède au livestream

[15:42:04] Toussaint Togo : non syvie donne moi le code

[15:44:02] Sylvie Canada : Regarde les commentaires de 9:05 et 9:07 pour détails

cafe ottawa: http://rabble.ca/RabbleTV.livestream

[15:44:42] Toussaint Togo : merci pierre

[15:47:53] cafe ottawa: je ne suis pas sur que ça marche, ce n'est peut etre pas le bon lien je cherche

[15:48:27] Toussaint Togo : ça marche, je suis en direct

[15:48:57] cafe ottawa: tu peux donner le lien ?

[15:49:45] Toussaint Togo : http://rabble.ca/RabbleTV.livestream

[15:49:59] cafe ottawa: bon ok http://rabble.ca

 [15:52:09] Toussaint Togo : en ce moment Assemblée de covergence du mouvement etudiant

[15:53:04] cafe ottawa: oui!

 [15:55:13] Toussaint Togo : (y : Resistance et alternatives féministe

8  - Ordre des 17 assemblées

[15:58:59] Sylvie Canada : Postal union représentative  underlines their fight to keep their services to Canadians

[15:59:44] Chris Australia: They are following the Assembly order, here http://static.squarespace.com/static/52faa83fe4b00ea56bbb527a/t/53f4ad5ae4b02de8411c3719/1408544090885/PSF_eprogNnn.pdf p48 , yes

[16:00:30] Sylvie Canada : Victims of our government austerity plan.Calling participants to support this cause and all the causes bringing eroded by the austerity plan - a neoliberalism plan is motion across the world

 [16:03:39] Sylvie Canada : Health care is another great canadian social programs binder erosion under our Majority government

 [16:04:15] Chris Australia: worth defending - yes?

[16:06:10] Sylvie Canada : Social economy should be based on fairness, sustainability, inclusion, democracy, gender equality are some of the factors named by the representative of the social economy assembly

[16:06:54] Chris Australia: Needs more passion - we can all read their communique later.

[16:07:42] Sylvie Canada : They are very nervous

[16:08:46] Chris Australia: Here is our Alternative Media Movement Assembly - Greg .How good is CACTUS to lead this sector?

[16:11:30] Sylvie Canada : There will be so credence call this fall more information will be provided if you registered on their web page

We now have our mining assembly representative - let's bring more awareness of the ongoing abuse in this sector bearing our Canadian Name across the world

[16:13:02] Sylvie Canada : * conference call this fall*

[16:13:06] Chris Australia: Mining Justice is something new here in Australia; we are trying to learn from Canada's wealth of experience.  We both have very large extractive sectors

[16:13:53] Sylvie Canada : We are great contacts for those that brought forth this last May a People tribunal in Montreal let us know if you want to be connected

[16:14:06] Chris Australia: She's a confident speaker - I believe her

[16:14:15] Sylvie Canada : * have great contacts : Education and art assembly

I have the pleasure to see Jay sen in the crowd:I'm also sitting beside a woman has been a harder defender of communities building and support

[16:19:07] Chris Australia: Up to 17 Rabble viewers now

reverting to 'whisper' translations to overcome technical problems

[16:35:25] cafe ottawa: climate change assemblée

[16:36:30] Toussaint Togo : Assemblée sur les changement climatiques

Assemblée de  convergence sur les migrants et la justice

[16:39:44] Chris Australia: I wonder why the despair about Migrant Justice.  It is strong in FSM thematic forums, and is gaining strength across Europe.

[16:39:52] cafe ottawa: il dit que c'est ce groupe qui a demandé le changement de nom  "forum social des peuples"

[16:42:03] Toussaint Togo : Assemblée de convergence sur la palestine et le peuples

[16:41:50] Chris Australia: For Palestine, we have had serious pushback in Australia against BDS campaign.  We need to think/ plan again

[16:45:21] Sylvie Canada : Any questions from our participants?

Agriculture and food safety and security.Food justice..

[16:47:02] Chris Australia: We are keen to see Canada's pickup on food and agriculture.  Food security is a big issue in Asia right now, led by the new BJP leadership in India.

In Australia, NGOs are starting to use 'smallscale farmers' languages; something would not have been topical 5-10 years ago.  In solidarity with our Asian neighbours ...

[16:48:49] cafe ottawa: pollenate our mouvements .....

20140825-ottawa-085.JPG

announcement of next tunis wsf and montréal wsf during connexion assembly report

annonce du prochains forum tunis  et montréal dans le rapport de l'assemblée

 

9 - Sylvie au micro

[16:52:09] cafe ottawa: bonjour Joseph,  Haitit  et eric

c'est sylvie qui  parle ! sylvie at the mike

[16:53:41]  Eric, Bénin: Bonjour

[16:53:56] Toussaint Togo : eric sa va?

[16:54:29]  Eric, Bénin: Oui Toussaint j'étais au repos

[16:54:43] Toussaint Togo : ok : je suis endirect depui otawa

[16:55:26]  Eric, Bénin: OK

[16:56:11] Toussaint Togo : http://rabble.ca voici le lien eric

[16:58:06] cafe ottawa: :) assemblée sur les relations avec l'afrique

[16:59:02] Chris Australia: targetting offending companies

[17:03:05] cafe ottawa: les personnes avec handicap

 [17:06:56] Toussaint Togo : \o/

[17:10:56] Sylvie Canada : Our First Nations representatives

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10 - Caucus peoples indigènes

[17:11:01] cafe ottawa: caucus des peuple indigènes

[17:11:59] Sylvie Canada : Tass bouché has invited us to connect on Facebook Clayton Thomas an organiser of Idle No More, Will provide a ceremony to bring us all together - this will be a blanket dance for people to contribute to the families in support of travel support ...

[17:21:29] cafe ottawa: ils ont demandé a ce que la danse de la couerture ne soit pas filmée

[17:26:46] cafe ottawa: l'image revient

[17:27:32] Sylvie Canada : Now the indigenous assembly report

[17:28:32] cafe ottawa: c'est dur d'etre sur les lignes de front nous avons tous nos familles

[17:28:47] Sylvie Canada : Shannon is reminding us that we all have the same heart and mind and our duty to protect the land.

[17:29:37] cafe ottawa: 1600  canadian dollars ont été recoltés pour financer le retour du groupe dans leurs territoires. Elle lit  la premiere déclaration du caucaus indigyne et ensuite la derniere faite ici

[17:37:15] Joseph,  Haiti: c'est tres bien ca bon boulot

[17:37:50] cafe ottawa: salut en haiti :)

turtle island  veut dire le continent américain

[17:40:16] cafe ottawa: demande une participation actve des peuples indigenes dans le proessus du fsp

[17:40:49] cafe ottawa: http://rabble.ca

11 - Haiti

[17:39:56] Joseph,  Haiti: ok nous en Haiti nous avons une 40 organisation qui se rassemble pour aider les enfants vulnerables et les personnes handicapé et les femmes vulnerables

ok alors nous aimerions que les organisations  qui sont au canada nous rejoindre pour trouver plus de possibilité pour aider ses gens

mais comment vous pouvez nous unifier  comme des organisations qui font le social en Haiti avec les organisations au canada pour faire une main forte pour sauver des gens vulnerables dans le monde specialement nous qui sont en Haiti

[17:50:06] cafe ottawa: ceci peut etre discuté  dans un forum social mondial

[17:43:04] Joseph,  Haiti: moi je plus comprend francais que anglais qu'est ce que cette organisation faisait

[17:52:51] cafe ottawa: il s'agit d'abord de compréhension mutuelle puis ensuite de cooperations et alliances

[17:53:47] Joseph,  Haiti: ce forum est vraiment formidable cela rendre tout les organisation partage les idée et partage les experiences selon leurs experience dans le pays qu'ils fonctionne

ah ok parce que si nous faisions cette unification l'un supporte l'autre nous faisons une merveil dans le monde

[17:44:33] cafe ottawa: c'est l'assemblée des peuples indigènes d'amérique au canada ( les indiens d'amérique ) qu se sont activés récemment dans un mouvement appelé idle no more ( nous ne sommes plus inertes )

[17:45:02] Joseph,  Haiti: ok

 

12 - Assembly again

[17:42:07] Sylvie Canada : National committee structure was recommended for educational and awareness to bring the people together for their participation and attend endanger at the PSF -a very good advice for the planning for the WSF in Montreal

[17:43:17] Sylvie Canada : The declaration was modified during the forum so Will is providing the new updated declaration

Create a circle of unity of all nations in peace

 [17:46:39] Chris Australia: Similar sentiments as the theme that emerged in Sarajevo in June

[17:47:35] cafe ottawa: notre responsabiité en tant que peupe original c'st de protéger la terre

 [17:49:09] Chris Australia: It is drawing to a close, I am already 1.5 hours into Monday, so I must say "Adieu, bon voyage'

 [17:51:52] Sylvie Canada : Bonsoir Chris -talk to your during the next forum

 I would like to know who are still listening /participating in the cafe?Just to know how much information to continue to share...

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   reading of a text proposed by a group of big organisations and unions -

lecture d'un texte  proposé par un group de grosses organisations et syndicats

 

13 -Appel de certains mouvements

 [17:54:28] cafe ottawa: un document a circulé entre "stuctures du fsp" - le document a beaucoup évolué

[17:54:35] Sylvie Canada : A declaration has been prepared as a closing note to this assembly... It was built over time just before the forum, through participation of some participants...A call fro action on behalf of the gathering of the social movements

[17:57:44] cafe ottawa: csq ftq council of canadia  ffdu quebec  et .... " appel a l'action lancé par la covnegence des mouvements sociaux ..."le mouvement social inédit que nous construisons .... (chacun lit un morceau de cette déclaration )

[18:01:31] cafe ottawa: nous nous engageons a réutiser les structures que nous a donné le forum ocial des peuples

[18:02:57] Sylvie Canada : Yes it is a collective response

[18:02:58] cafe ottawa: le gouvernement doit sentir le poids de notre convergence

[17:59:44] Joseph,  Haiti: est ce que les autres pays de l'exterieur peut participer dans ce mouvement sociaux, parce que nous en Haiti a l'organisation UJDHRD,Union Des Jeunes Pour Le Developpement Humain Reel Et Durable nous aimerions l'antene de ce mouvement en Haiti

[18:04:05] Joseph,  Haiti: ah ok comment nous en Haiti peut faire sentir ce convergence

[18:03:38] Sylvie Canada : We will try to ensure the collection of contacts and continue to create and nourish sharing

[18:04:01] cafe ottawa: when i say idle you say no more, when I say power  you say people, :when I say  mother you say earth, yeah

14 - Commentaries sur le texte lu

[18:05:30] cafe ottawa: etes vous prets a vous engager? .....

[18:05:39] Joseph,  Haiti: oui

[18:05:45] cafe ottawa: une assemblée est un espace souverain ...

[18:06:01] Joseph,  Haiti: oui : mais il faut me dire ca en francais parce que je parle un peut anglais c'est pas bcp

[18:07:45] cafe ottawa: forumconvergence@gmail.com

[18:10:51]  Eric, Bénin: Apparemment ma connexion s'impose à moi ce jour

[18:11:05] Sylvie Canada : The assembly has been invited to make comments & suggestions to the forum declaration

[18:11:09]  Eric, Bénin: (facepalm)

[18:12:38] Sylvie Canada : Equestrian we made for a fair vote, to include capitalism, we don't want a state to support military rule and military coup in Middle East and particularly Egypt

[18:12:48] Sylvie Canada : A request.

En anglais.

http://www.newswire.ca/en/story/1401936/2014-peoples-social-forum-progressive-social-movements-call-for-action-and-convergence

en francais

: http://www.newswire.ca/en/story/1401934/forum-social-des-peuples-2014-appel-a-la-convergence-et-a-l-action-des-mouvements-sociaux-progressistes

15 - Mail de contact

[18:12:39] Joseph,  Haiti: ah ok sur ce email que dois je faire je dois t'ecrire

[18:12:55]  Eric, Bénin: Le mail sert à quoi ?

[18:13:49] cafe ottawa: c'est pour envoyer les déclarations des différent asemblées qui ont eu lieu a ce forum

[18:14:09]  Eric, Bénin: Ok

[18:14:11] Joseph,  Haiti: ah ok

[18:14:54] Joseph,  Haiti: comment dois je faire pour avoir les contacts des organisateurs de ce forum

[18:15:13] Sylvie Canada : Fight to keep our postal services, for a inquiry in the deaths of aboriginal ladies/ sisters and fighting against the pipelines across our land...

[18:15:45] Sylvie Canada : Nous avons tous les contacts..

To add... To have solidarity with all forums..

To add.... Accessibility to translation device to have a driver license which is not available  to all

To add... Support freeing Cubans in prisons in USA

To add... A process to legally bind the declaration

To add.. A 50/50 government on behalf of all Canadians

 [18:25:57] Sylvie Canada : To include Acadians ... A reminder for WSF for Montreal

To add... Equality for feeding my family... Example of cost for milk in Iqaluit is over $10. - go to feeding my family to feed in a letter to MP... Help help :)

To send a letter to MP

[To add... A real strategy around building unity

To add... Support to Frack back...campaign to defend human rights and laws of nature for the children

[To add... The liberty to create our own money

To add.. A process for social movements to sign the final declaration

[18:45:48] Sylvie Canada : A suggestion from Pierre...that this delcartion be proposed to signing by those mouvment approving it


 

A group picture will be taking in solidarity for Ferguson

 

16 – Future of wsf café  Futur du café FSM – rencontre skype a venir  - ecrire sur la liste

[18:17:51]  Eric, Bénin: Qu'en est-il de ma proposition de maintenir ce groupe même après ce forum ?

[18:19:20] Sylvie Canada : Le cafe sera maintenu. Nous devons s'organiser et communiquer notre vision[Et faire du recrutement ...

[18:21:25]  Eric, Bénin: Oui mais il faut qu'on se retrouve périodiquement sur CR groupe pour prendre en compte les infos de chaque pays membre et voire quel moyen de solidarité pouvons nous nous apporter pour mener une lutte bcp pacifique

[18:23:03] Sylvie Canada : Parfait oui - nous proposerons une rencontre Skype dans un futur rapproché

[18:23:20]  Eric, Bénin: Oui Très intéressant avec le mail il faut un coordonnateur pour créer un mailing liste pouvant partager les infos en un seul tenant et revenir sur le groupe pour des propositions alternatives

 [18:28:32]  Eric, Bénin: Allô Il y a qui d'autre en ligne ? Nous devons parfaire ce projet

 [18:48:51] Sylvie Canada : Eric tu as déjà recu des mails sur la liste des participants et tu Peux ecrire dessus

[18:49:51] cafe ottawa: on reparle de tout cela ... dans ls prochains jours

[18:58:01] Sylvie Canada : The session is now officially closed :) Just need to gather the chairs... Chat to you all soon Roger out...

[19:35:31]  Eric, Bénin: Non pas en core

[20:27:06] Mohamed Egypt:  I am very sorry .. I am very sick for two days ago Infected with bronchitis High temperature Went to the hospital yesterday got an antibiotic injection

25/08

 [22:20:47] mad: hello how r u

[22:21:07]  Eric, Bénin: hello fine and you

[22:21:37] mad: im fine thanks

[22:23:52]  Eric, Bénin: ok

26/08

[04:28:44] Chris Australia: http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-narrative  updated

[04:02:38] Joseph,  Haiti: hello

27/08

[08:38:02]  Eric, Bénin: Hello

[17:05:41] DARYL CAMEROUN: hello i'm sorry, i was in trip and my connection was very bad there, i couldn't join you on skype for the wsf

29:08

1 –Kashif Pakistan

[00:46:18] *** Ghassen Tunisia est parti ***

[06:55:38] Chris Australia: 'Belongingness and organisations are anathema to anarchists; teamwork is fine."

[09:21:49] *** Pierre a invité Kashif ***

[09:21:59] Pierre France: welcome kashif  from Pakistan photos and first narrative are accessible here : http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-narrative

[09:33:59] *** cafe ottawa a invité Ahmed Mauritanie ***

[09:34:20] cafe ottawa: welcome kashif Pakistan and ahmed Mauritania

http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-narrative

[09:35:35] Kashif gf: thanx Pierre

[09:36:34] cafe ottawa: you can register this converstion room in hyour contacts as " ottawa wsf cafe"

[09:36:53] Kashif gf: done

[09:38:17] cafe ottawa: kashif is from pakisan

http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants-list

2 - Chat log  edition 

[09:37:20] cafe ottawa: http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-chatlog  chatlog will be reshuflled soonit gives the course of thiings and access to some videos

[09:39:27] Chris Australia: Reshuffling might be a challenge.  The main thread, of course, is this one that's labelled Ottawa WSF Cage general.  I agree it's chatlog should be ordered chronologically.  However, ...

[09:40:24] Kashif gf: how would I know about the shuffling?

[09:40:37] cafe ottawa: (wait for the reshuffling  :) chris sometime in the next 24 hours

[09:40:55] Kashif gf: ok

 [09:41:21] Chris Australia: ... each of the other chats is linked in time to it's adjacent WSF Cafe General thread.  For example, the nuance ...... of Gustavo providing support to a PSF-Extended workshop only makes sense when we see him being available in WSFCafe.  Similarly, for Sylvie, when ...when Sylvie's providing support elsewhere on the PSF site (eg at Registrations), that explains why she can't physically be at WSF Cafe.  She may be a Superwoman, but she still can't be in two places at once! (tmi)

[09:41:37] cafe ottawa: comments and advise welcome ... in the meantime (now leaving)

[09:45:23] Chris Australia: Yes?

[10:04:48]  Eric, Bénin: Bonjour

3 - camara

[10:17:01] CAMARA: Bonjour, je ss Camara Maroc : depuis Maroc.

je  suis coordinateur du conseil des migrants au maroc

[19:55:46] cafe ottawa: bonjour camara on vous attendait pendant les jounrées a ottawa mais c'est bien que vous soyez venu

[19:57:23]  Eric, Bénin: salut Camara

4 - ethel

[23:25:51] Ethel Canada: J'y étais mais on n'a pas réussi a brancher mon atelier

[23:32:15] cafe ottawa: bonjour Ethel

5 - Post café – photos

[23:33:01]  Eric, Bénin: quoi de neuf par ici?

[23:35:40] cafe ottawa: on a mis des photos en ligne -

http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-narrative

[23:36:19]  Eric, Bénin: ok

[23:36:38] cafe ottawa:  et on va "ranger" un peu - on vous tient au courant sur la liste des particpants

6 - Invitation a des Texte des participants en ligne au café

[23:38:28] cafe ottawa: on est preneurs d'un texte de votre part sur "votre FSP dans le café du 21 au 24  aout "  si vous voulez nous l'envoyer a  group.fsmwsfextension.canada@gmail.com

[23:39:20] cafe ottawa: eric toussaint maher  et d'autres  sont invités a envoyer leur texte :) on le mettra dans les pages narratives

[23:40:50]  Eric, Bénin: texte?

[23:41:07] cafe ottawa: vos impressions et commentaires sur votre participation dans le café si vous voulez les partager

[23:42:51]  Eric, Bénin: super

[23:42:27] cafe ottawa: hello mohammed from Egypt too bad you were ill those days

7 Texte de Hassan

[23:35:56] Hassan Maroc: hello

[23:39:55] cafe ottawa: hello hssan :)

[23:43:26] Hassan Maroc: I am very happy to participate in the World Social Forum because it was an informative and useful opinions between friends from all over the world

Je suis très heureux de participer au Forum social mondial, car il était un avis d'information et utiles entre les amis de partout dans le monde

: Expérience du Forum de café était une bonne idée pour de connaissance, j'espère être en Tunisie en 2015

[23:44:57] cafe ottawa: thanks hassan - merci hassan ( you can be longer  and more specific if hyou want - vous pouvez etre plus long et plus détaillé si vous voulez

http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-narrative2

8 Texte d’Eric

[23:54:54]  Eric, Bénin: Je suis très heureux, très heureux d’avoir participer en toute liberté et toute équité dans ce forum où beaucoup d’hommes, de femmes qui militent et luttent quotidiennement pour la paix, la justice, la démocratie, l’égalité, malgré la distance qui sépare mon pays le BENIN et le CANADA, beaucoup d’échanges fructueuses ont eu lieu en si peu de temps dans l’intention de voir naitre un autre monde sans corruption, sans barbarie, sans dictature, sans éducation…. Car conscient qu’un monde est possible…

Je remercie chaleureusement tous les organisateurs (surtout les femmes ) qui se sont donnés corps et âme même à des heures tardives pour voir un autre monde juste naitre de nos vivants…

J’attache du prix mes sincères propositions d’abord de garder cet arme qui vient d’être forgée pour d’autres activités hors forum

http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-narrative2

[23:58:13] Chris Australia: Bonjour Eric, bonjour hassan, bonjour wsfcafe ottawa

[23:59:03]  Eric, Bénin: bonjour Chris je dirai bonsoir il est 11 pm par ici

[00:14:39] Chris Australia: Bonjour Eric, Je suis heureux aussi que nous avons été rejoints par un ami de la Mauritanie, amed je pense. Est-ce que cela signifie que nous avons multiple de Mohamed avec nous?

[Bonsoir Eric,  |-)  il est huit heures ici; 25 centigade dans ces derniers jours de l'hiver; en Australie

[00:24:33]  Eric, Bénin: 23° par ici

[00:28:42] Chris Australia: Eric, je vais trouver ma clé centigrades dans un moment et puis ma langue française sera plus clair. Le petit a, en haute exposant, sur la ligne :D

[00:30:39] Chris Australia: Good evening, Ethel (if you are there)

9 - Hassan views- opinions d’Hassan

[23:56:26] Hassan Maroc: :)

[00:03:49] Hassan Maroc: Dans cette situation vécue par le monde, nous devons divulguer la paix, l'amour et les idées qui appellent à Baldmqratih et la liberté dans des limites raisonnables et le chaos pas démocratique qui existent dans les pays de l'Est et certains pays d'Afrique, nous voulons la paix et de la coexistence entre les religions et s'attaquent extrémistes avec des idées réactionnaires

J'ai proposé la création de réseaux de communications électroniques dans les domaines de la vie sociale, économique, culturelle et environnementale

In this situational experienced by the world we must disclose peace, love and ideas that call for democracy and freedom within reasonable limits and not democratic chaos that exist in the countries of the East and some countries in Africa, we want peace and coexistence between religions and tackle extremists with reactionary ideas

I suggested the creation of electronic communication networks in the fields of social, economic, cultural and environmental

[00:25:39] Hassan Maroc:

Ne devrait pas être reconnu Polisario, car il mercenaires source du terrorisme, si l'Algérie embrasse mercenaires jour leur revenir mauvais comme Kadhafi

Vous devez aider les pays du Maghreb, comme le Maroc et la Tunisie, qui sont dans le processus de progrès dans la liberté, la démocratie et la réconciliation avec soi-même

[00:26:32]  Eric, Bénin: je ne comprends bien tes écrits hassan

 [00:32:12] cafe ottawa: Element de commentaire sur le texte de hassan  :  hassan vit a laayoune  partie sous administration marocaine de ce  qui était autrefois le sahara occidental et Hassan est  apparemment favorable a la souveraineté marocaine sur ce territoire  ( voir la liste des participants  http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants-list   ligne 26 )

10 – HR Governmental forum in Marrakech -  Forum DH gouvernmental de marrakech

 [00:32:49]  Eric, Bénin: ok j'ai discuté avec Miloud la fois passée pour leur forum en novembre au Maroc et puis je n'ai plus eu de ses nouvelles jusqu'à présent

[00:34:03] cafe ottawa: ce sujet du sahara occidental est un point délicats dans les forums sociaux  a dakar a tunis au maroc  etc  dans certains cas un dialogue pacifié est possible entre acteurs marocains et sahraouis, dans d'autres non

[00:34:26]  Eric, Bénin: je serai à Dakar je pense bien t veux bien aller au maroc* en tunis j'y serai

[00:35:10] cafe ottawa: le forum de novembre  au maroc  sur les droits humains est un forum gouvernemental qui fait suite a  un forum  au Brésil l'an passé

[00:35:32]  Eric, Bénin: ok comment y participer?

[00:35:37] cafe ottawa: un certain nombre d'activités se tiendront en marge de ce forum: aucune idée

[00:35:50]  Eric, Bénin: ok

[00:36:10] Hassan Maroc: marrakech

[00:36:24] cafe ottawa: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Forum-mondial-des-Droits-de-lhomme-Marrakech-2014/1391043204470461

il n'ya pas de site officiel visible pour l'instant

http://openfsm.net/projects/espacios-oe/event2014-world-human-rights-forum-morroco

[00:39:03]  Eric, Bénin: ok

[00:39:59] Hassan Maroc: La plus grande preuve que le Maroc respecte les droits et la démocratie, organise un forum international pour les droits humains à Marrakech dans le domaine de l'éducation, de la santé et de l'économie sociale .....

[00:50:39] Hassan Maroc: merci mes amies

 

11 – A wsf café in Dakar in october ? Café fsm Dakar mi octobre?

[00:39:25] cafe ottawa: Eric si tu vas a dakar le 15 octobre  est ce que ça t'interesseraitd e contribuer a  organiser uin café fsm la bas ?

[00:39:57]  Eric, Bénin: oui avec plaisir

 [00:41:09] cafe ottawa: très bien et tu es d'accord pour investir le temps qui'il faut ( il faut etre disponible pas mal sur place a dakar  et aussi donner du temps avant)   ......

 [00:41:50]  Eric, Bénin: yes crois moi

[00:42:50] cafe ottawa: bon très bien .... alors on en reparle bientot  pour adapter les choses pour un café fsm dakar ( page  liste  salle tchat  et formulaire d'inscription ... etc ) (tmi)

[00:43:09]  Eric, Bénin: (y)

[00:43:17] cafe ottawa: est ce que tu connais des personnes a dakar  qui pourraient t'aider vraiment pour le faire

[00:43:55]  Eric, Bénin: à dakar? je dois avoir certains amis maliens en place en tout cas d'autres acquis à la cause vont pas rester en marge de cet evenement

[00:45:40] cafe ottawa: oui mais il faut les identifier le plus tot possoble et qu'elles soient vairement interessé a aagir a dakar en donnant leur temps  pour que d'autres en afirique ou ailleurs puissent  etre en relation avec les participants et réalités du fsa, c'est le prcinpe du café fsm

on donne de son temps a dakar pendant le fsa  ( et avant ) pour que des personnes qui ne viennent pas a dakar puissent participer d'une certaine maniere  au fsa

si tu connais des personnes fiables et ineressées oar cette idée qui vont venir a dakar comme toi

 [01:04:23]  Eric, Bénin: oui j'en connais assez sur tout au sien des mouvements en afrique: je te rendrai demain

[01:06:19] cafe ottawa: d'accord .. on continue a échanger la dessus et aussi par email ... c'est une belle idée  elle peu etre préparée depuis hors de dakar mais elle doit etre concrétisée a dakar avec un petit groupe fiable sur place et un peu de matériel ( ordinateurs connectés) apporté par les personnes de ce groupe car on est sur un budget zéro :)

[01:07:08]  Eric, Bénin: ah oui de l'équipement il en faut ah oui  j'en suis bien conscient

[01:08:19] cafe ottawa: chacun apporte son pc ..  et emprunte une clé 3G a gauche a droite

[01:08:41]  Eric, Bénin: une bonne solidarité, l'idée meme de créer une bonne équipe de volontaires sans frontières pour ses circonstances

[01:08:53] cafe ottawa: oui un groupe de vrais volontaires

Voici un lien d’invitation pour dakar - esquisse

http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-dakar2014

 [01:09:47] cafe ottawa:  a dakar je connais quelqu'un  et il y avait une salle assez bien connectée a ucad 2 ou on a fait dakar étendu en 2011 - si le forum est la ça peut servir ( a confirmer)

[01:10:43] cafe ottawa: http://openfsm.net/projects/daketvideos/project-home

[01:11:30] cafe ottawa: a dakar on a fait 70 tele rencontre par skype ( dans des conditions impossibles) et un peu de streaming ( on n'avait pas inventé le café internet a l'époque ... ) http://openfsm.net/projects/dakar-etendu/photosdaket

[01:10:07]  Eric, Bénin: ah oui j'y étais aussi parlant de condition j'ai passé les nuits sous les tentes sur le terrain de sport

 [01:14:33] cafe ottawa: moi je parle des conditions logistiques  du programme  on ,nous avait promis 10 salles avec cable internet  on a eu une

[01:15:29] ***  Eric, Bénin envoie IMG_1070.JPG ***

[01:16:00] ***  Eric, Bénin envoie IMG_1104.JPG ***

 [01:26:52] cafe ottawa: // Les images ne passent pas

 

30 /08

1 - Ahmed mauritanie

[10:05:38] cafe ottawa: bonjour eric peux tu renvoyer les deux images?

[13:25:41] Ahmed Mauritanie: Bonjour,je suis Ahmed president d'une ONG protection de l'environnemnt ss Mauritanien,

[13:26:23] Chris Australia: Bonjour Ahmed, je suis Chris in Australia Aha. Pierre dit que nous devrions accueillir un nouveau venu de la Mauritanie. accueil Ahmed

Je dois partir maintenant car il est après 21 heures. Avez-vous des questions?

[13:34:53] Ahmed Mauritanie: je suis nouvau ,donc toute information et importent pour moi ,

[13:38:48] Chris Australia: Il ya environ 1 semaine, nous «rencontré» pour une conférence au Canada http://openfsm.net/projects/canada-etand-fsmwsf/project-home

[13:40:55] Chris Australia: Il y avait 33 d'entre nous, dans le monde entier. http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/project-home

À l'heure actuelle, cette page est «hors service pour maintenance" de sorte que vous pouvez vérifier un peu plus tard

[13:41:36] Ahmed Mauritanie: je voulez participer ,que ce qui me manque ?

[13:44:08] Chris Australia: Lorsque les rendements WSFCafe de pages Web, il est une page narrative, avec des photos et des liens vers des vidéos. De temps en temps, les francophones visiter cette page Skype pour le chat, et vous êtes invités également.

Je dois y aller maintenant, mais peut-être 'répondre' vous la prochaine fois que vous vous connectez à cet espace? (wave)

[13:55:14] Ahmed Mauritanie: merci ok

[17:24:48]  Eric, Bénin: Bonsoir

[17:25:28] Ahmed Mauritanie: ca va

[00:08:05] H: salut mes amies

[00:10:13] HASSAN MAROC: :)

[00:42:24] cafe ottawa: salut

[00:53:55] Chris Australia: Hello Ottawa?

2 - Rearrangement du/of  chat log

[00:54:10] cafe ottawa: paris here titling and reshuffling

[00:54:51] Chris Australia: Just the handle is deceptive ... cafe ottawa.

[00:55:42] CAMARA LAYE: salut Miriam

[00:56:04] cafe ottawa: salut camara

[00:56:04] Chris Australia: I noticed titling & reshuffling. I told Ahmed Mauritanie to try to logon to narrative a little later :Hello Miriam, Chris in Australia here

[00:57:22] cafe ottawa: 14 hours difference  otawa melbourne is not making my life easy .... in the skype time stamp

: You are at liberty to change.  Adelaide is 30mins behind Melbourne, but 10 years ahead ...

[00:58:26] cafe ottawa: (am trying to outline headers of different parts

[01:03:49] Chris Australia: Vous avez fait un grand travail ailleurs. J'ai confiance en votre jugement et vos compétences. (sun)

[01:04:10] cafe ottawa: (bow)

[01:06:16] Chris Australia: Australie et la France sont amis pour la vie; contrairement à la France et l'Angleterre.

http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-chatlog

 

3 – cámara du Maroc  et Ahmed mauritanie

[01:04:33] CAMARA LAYE: comment vs allez

[01:05:39] cafe ottawa: bonjour camara - de quel pays etes vous ?  ( avez vous rempli le formulaire de particpation ?

[01:06:51] cafe ottawa: le formulaire est ici :  https://docs.google.com/forms/d/16CWRrCsnjC_ugftEoHfDItaQB0vdaP-ZUJA94hf02GQ/viewform

[01:07:13] Chris Australia: Is Miriam there?

[01:07:31] cafe ottawa: meme chose pour ahmed ( avec vous rempli le formulaire de participation :) c'est pour compléter la liste ici :  http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants-list

[01:09:25] Chris Australia: Ahmed est de la Mauritanie. Je suis sûr que vous avez ajouté un Mauritanien à la liste de plus de 33 participants ...

[01:09:47] Ahmed Mauritanie: ok je vas commencer a remplre  ,aprés on envoi le formilaire a qui ?

[01:10:11] cafe ottawa: il s'envpoie tout seul !  c'est un formulaire google en ligne il faut appuyer sur le bouton submit a la fin  c'est tout

[01:10:39] Ahmed Mauritanie: ok

[01:11:01] cafe ottawa: de la mauritanie on a mborick mohamed  mais pas ahmed

[01:12:05] Chris Australia: Does Ahmed know Mohamed?

[01:12:21] Ahmed Mauritanie: non, moi je suis Ahmed

[01:12:59] cafe ottawa: oui on a compris que vous etes deux personnes différentes :)

[01:14:08] Chris Australia: (whew)

[01:15:29] Ahmed Mauritanie: oui bien sur on a seleument presque le méme non se différent : :)

4 – Next cafés ?  Prochains cafés ?

[01:17:57] cafe ottawa: le forum ottawa est terminé le 24 aout , mais le café continue un peu .. et on prepare de prochains cafés

[01:19:18] Chris Australia: now a list of 35 participants, and growing ... http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf-cafe-fsm/wsfcafefsm-ottawa-participants-list

[01:22:02] Ahmed Mauritanie: votre prochain forum sera quand ?

[01:22:38] cafe ottawa: il y a différents évènements dans le calendrier fsm ici :

http://openfsm.net/projects/wsf2012-support/wsf2014-calendar

on verra ou et quand on peut organiser un autre café

5 - café wsf  Brisbane november?

[01:30:53] Chris Australia: Il pourrait y avoir un peu de café australien après le 8 Novembre. Nous avons besoin de la permission de nos sœurs et frères Quandamooka à visiter leur ambassade à Musgrave Park, Brisbane; http://brisbaneblacks.com/g20/program/

[01:31:19] cafe ottawa: oui cafe fsm brisbane est prévu :) si l'ésquipe locale est d'accord

[01:39:17] Chris Australia: Je suis à Brisbane à partir du 7 Novembre. Le groupe de Katharine ne convoque «officiellement» à Musgrave parc après le 17 Novembre, http://www.earthholocracy.org/real-global-democracy-2014/92-real-global-democracy-2014/194-the-g99-peoples-assembly-and-peoples-conference-follow-up-to-the-g20

En attendant, je pourrais avoir besoin de faire hangouts Google Starbucks ou Cibo, si proche et pratique ... et qui n'est pas contrôlée par nos adversaires ... (yn)