Wilhelmina, Condolences on the heartless killings of miners leaving behind widows without means for their livelihoods!

FUTURE OF WSF/IC:

Thanks Gina for summary of Monastir Working Group & discussion summary.

Below is my contribution on both summaries:

1) STUCTURE: IC must be a horizontal collective of activists to facilitate bi-annual WSF editions (ie selecting forum themes & issues & constituting working groups as need be);

2) MEMBERSHIP: All attendants @ each six-monthly IC meetings shall be considered as members for that particular meeting to participate on equal footing with previous participants;

3) AGENDA: Draft must be shared beforehand & adjusted accordingly & adhered to in the IC meeting;

4) IC/CHAIR: Co-Chairs & Co-Rapporteurs of IC sessions should be on regional rotation basis & responsible for summary reports @ final plenary session & sharing final reports online;

5) SPEAKERS: Speaking time should be ten minutes maximum per speaker & no repetition (withdraw microphone if exceeds) regardless of speaker in order to have more speakers, save time & adhere to the Agenda;

6) BACKGROUND: Previous IC attendants shall provide background/historical memory for continuity & cohesion in transparent manner in the main meetings & working groups;

7) DOCUMENTS: Summary minutes & reports from previous working groups must be shared together with the Agenda (prior to the IC meeting dates) in English & author's language at least.

8) GUIDING Principles: These are principles but not rules. These include: WSF Charter & policies adopted by IC for its operational purpose, working groups & global regional social forum chapters.

9) THIS WORKING GROUP:

9a) I agree with Gina that the core-members are those persons that attended the Monastir working group BUT open to interested individuals NOT entire membership;

9b) Gina must continue to make periodic summaries of points made;

9c) A deadline is needed to bring to an end the debate, followed by an analysis of the inputs & share with this membership for comments & revise accordingly as a zero draft report;

9d) Submit the zero draft report to IC members online for their comments BUT present final report & priory comments received @ IC meeting for decision on proposals therein.

Warm regards

Sara
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From: Wilhelmina Trout WMW <wilhelmina@marchemondiale.org>
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 16:51:26 +0200
To: <wg-about-future@lists.openfsm.net>
ReplyTo: wg-about-future@lists.openfsm.net
Subject: Re: [WG about future] Re: confirmando que funciona

Dear Gina
my sincerest apologies for not being present these past days in these discussions, after my last task of sending you my notes.  Thank you for taking over & carrying the load. 
 
I am sure you, with the rest of the world, witnessed the recent killings of striking mine workers at the Lonmin Mine here in Marikane, it has shocked the world & here in South Africa we are trying to come to grips with the loss of lives and to make sense of this brutality.
 
But for now I will follow the discussions & continue participating actively in the group shortly.
 
In solidarity
wilhelmina

On 20 August 2012 22:41, gina vargas <ginvargas@gmail.com> wrote:
 dear friends, I am sending some ideas in attachment. Please respond as soon as posible

amig@s, estoy enviando algunas ideas en el docuemtno anexado; por favor respondan pronto


Gina


2012/8/19 Francine Mestrum <mestrum@skynet.be>

(Inglès: ver abajo)

 

Muchisimas gracias Gina por todo el trabajo!

Es muy interesante tu document, pero me preocupa las pocas reacciones que suscita.

 

Me pregunto si no podria ser por la formulacion de tus dos propuestas:

 

-          El protocol

-          El plan de trabajo

Yo no estoy muy segura de entender correctamente lo que quiere decir. El protocol: se trata de establecer las ‘reglas del juego’ de nuestro grupo?

Y el ‘plan de trabajo’: las distintas tareas con las responsabilidades?

 

No me parece Buena idea de divider el trabajo en distintos grupos, seria una fragmentacion mas, es algo que tenemos que evitar.

 

En cuanto a CI o grupo de trabajo: pienso que Chico y Liege tienen razon. Por un lado, porque tener un grupo de trabajo si mandamos todas las infoirmaciones a todos/todas? Por otro lado, pienso que los miembros del CI tienen una necesidad/voluntad de expresar sus frustraciones, seria un ejercicio de ‘catarsis’, pero van a hacerlo por escrito? Eso lo dudo …

 

Quizas que en primer lugar todos los miembros del grupo tendrian que mencionar cuales puntos piensan que tienen que ser discutidos?

Quizas trabajar con un cuestionario?

 

No sé si esas reflexiones pueden ayudar a progresar …

 

Esperando las noticias.

 

Francine

 

 

Thank you very much Gina for all the work done.

Your document is very interesting, though I am worried about the lack of reactions …

I woner if it could be linked to the working or your two proposals:

-          Protocol

-          A working plan

I am not sure I understand them well. Protocol: do you think of the ‘rules of the game’ our working-group has to follow and respect?

Working plan: do you think of a list of different tasks with responsibilities?

 

I do not think it would be a good idea to split up in different sub-groups, this would me even more fragmentation, something we have to avoid, I think.

Concerning IC and/or working-group: I think both Chico and Liege are right. On the one hand, it is no use to have a working group if all messages go to the whole of the IC. On the other hand, I think there also is a need for all members of the IC to espress their frustrations, it coule be a kind of ‘catharsis’, though I am not sure they will do this in writing …

 

Maybe the first thing to do is ask all members of the working-group to send a list of points they think will have to be discussed with priority?

Maybe we should work with a questionnaire?

 

Well, I do not know if these reflections are going to help …

 

Waiting for more news,

 

Francine

Van: gina vargas [mailto:ginvargas@gmail.com]
Verzonden: 15 August 2012 14:01
Aan:
wg-about-future@lists.openfsm.net
Onderwerp: [WG about future] Re: confirmando que funciona

 

Querid@s amigos, aca va una propuesta para continuar nuestro trabajo. Espero sus comentarios y propuestas para avanzar.

Dear friemnds, here I am sending a proposal to see how we can continue working.  Waiting for your comments and propsals to began to work.

the traslation to english have been done in google; although I have correct it, I am not sure that is good englsi. Maybe some of you that know both can check?

besos
Gina

2012/8/12 gina vargas <ginvargas@gmail.com>

Hola gentes, a sugerencia de Pierre, nos comunicaremos a traves de
esta lista. Esta es una prueba para ver si esto funciona.

Dear friends , Pierre sugests that we comunicate through this list.
This is a prove to see if it functions.

Gina

 



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