ES below


EN Dears


1/ I agree with Vinod on necessity to go to collective structure and
protocols inside IC and not talk about personal issues


There is a reality of informal hierarchy of roles and weights that exists
inside IC, and of the interaction between roles and formal and informal
protocols that we have inside IC - It is probably useful , and in line with
our values,  to look for ways to make this reality more visible through
agreed protocols, so everybody in IC  can act upon it in a more explicit
way.



2/ I will make shortly a proposal along the following option


Not change IC structure and try to work on increasing the collective “wsf
process facilitation capability of IC”  through horizontal protocols .
Starting from where we are in the IC , we could develop such horizontal
protocols to try to move to somewhere else, more adapte to current
necessities


These protocols based on interaction between IC members, mainly  face to
face during IC meetings, would reflect a collective objective of developing
a  "facilitation/working program" based on horizontality and personal and
collective clarity about what each of IC member tries to do "in" and "for"
this WSF process at large ,



3/ Following Giuseppe suggestion to make reference to collectively evolved
documents  here is a  link to the Guiding principles for organizing events
http://openfsm.net/projects/ic-methodology/metcom-pgoex  through this link
you can access  version 1,  version 2 draft EN ES FR and checklist version
draft EN ES


:-)

warm regards from Pierre


Note : to review some aspects of monastir  here is a link to 22h of video
chronological and documented

(translation  of titles to EN ....later ..several interventions in english
)

http://openfsm.net/projects/monastir-extension/monastirextension-programme-fr

_________________________________________


ES  Querid@s


1 / Estoy de acuerdo con Vinod en la necesidad de trabajar la estructura
colectiva y protocolos dentro del CI y no hablar de temas personales


Hay una realidad de jerarquía  de roles y de pesos que existe dentro del
CI, y  de la interacción entre los roles y los protocolos formales e
informales que tenemos dentro del CI  Es util ,y en linea con nuestros
valores, buscar maneras de hacer esta realidad  más visible a través de
protocolos acordados para que todos los miembros CI puedan actuar sobre
esta de un modo más explícito


2 / voy a hacer proximamente una propuesta según la siguiente opción


No cambiar la estructura del CI y tratar de trabajar en el aumento de la
capacidad colectiva de facilitación desde el CI . A partir de "donde
estamos" en el CI  se podría desarrollar protocolos horizontales para
tratar de mover a "otro lugar" mas sintonizado con las necesidades actuales


Estos protocolos basados en interacción entre miembros, mayormente durante
los encuentros del CI, reflejarían un objectivo comun  de desarollar de un
programa realista de facilitación/trabajo realista, basado en la
horizontalidad y la claridad personal y colectiva sobre lo que  cada
miembro del CI  trata de hacer "en" y "para" este proceso FSM,


3 / Siguiendo la sugerencia de Giuseppe para hacer referencia a documentos
colectivamente redactados, aquí esta el enlace al documento Principios
rectores para la organización de eventos

http://openfsm.net/projects/ic-methodology/metcom-pgoex

 este link da acceso a versión 1  ,versión 2  EN ES FR completa y  lista de
control EN ES


;-)

Abrazos de Pierre

Nota : para reexaminar algunos aspectos de  monastir aqui esta un link a 22
h de video cronologicos

(traduccion al espanol ....mas tarde .. mucho ES/PT el 17 en la tarde ..)

http://openfsm.net/projects/monastir-extension/monastirextension-programme-fr



2012/8/13 Giuseppe Caruso <giu.caruso@...>

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> On 13 August 2012 19:08, Jennifer Cox <jenkwru@...> wrote:
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>> ok
>> Besos, kisses to all
>> Jen
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>>    *From:* Vinod Raina <vinodraina@...>
>> *To:* wg-about-future@...
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 13, 2012 11:38 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [WG about future] confirmando que funciona
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>> okay.
>> Vinod
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>> On 13 August 2012 19:09, Chico - Intercom <intercom@...>wrote:
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>> ok, Chico W.
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>> rita freire escreveu:
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>> On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 12:42 PM, gina vargas <ginvargas@...>
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>> > Dear friends , Pierre sugests that we comunicate through this list.
>> > This is a prove to see if it functions.
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