I am receiving 2 copies of every email on this one email account,
sometimes more.  :-p

H.

I also agree with all of what Orsan said, it would be nice to just see
where we all are and what we are doing first, particularly around Global
Square.


On 12/13/2016 5:45 AM, marita cassan wrote:
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> El 12/12/2016, a las 23:13, Orsan escribió:
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> Alan hi, 
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>> On 12 Dec 2016, at 22:47, Alan Blanes <pharmaworkerco.op@...> wrote:
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>> 17 Sustainable Development Goals  for the year 2030
> I really don't have any idea what those goals are, nor have I any positive feeling about concepts of 'development' and 'sustainability' defined by  the Western establishment, I am sorry. I just feel many oppressed peoples need to define their our own common goals, spaces and tool, at the moment and there are almost no spaces for networking and collaboration towards creating things those. We had been attacked from many side, left and right, and our wings have been broken in last years. That is how it feels to me.
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> As I said, better to have a flat space for conversation before topics, to see who is interested in what. Since there has been sort of long distance space and time vise, between our last interactions neither wsf nor occupy is as it was some years ago. That is why I do believe is more urgent to see first where we are, and have been doing, and to evaluate together what chances there remains to make of a sort of collective work. 
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> If it is an idea, we can may be think of the next Sunday, like around 17:00 o'clock U.K. time to come together, either on mumble, or Skype, or Jitsi, to have a talk?
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> Best, 
> Orsan
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