Rita, thank you for the excellent minutes i enjoyed reading them

(small technical thing, at some point on frday i had by magic access through
my skype to the whole chat, now i can't find that group anymore, any advice
anyone? i would really re/read the actual chat to follow the dynamics, while
of course i appreciate the collection made, or pointed at, by pierre...)

i wish to say two quick things that seem to recur in my mind with some
regularity and i wanted to see what people think about it....

In the vision of the WSF, this is (the WSF and i should imagine all its
bodies?) and :open space", not an organisation, but an arena facilitated by
its organisers who are at the service of movements and activists. SO: i have
the feeling that the communication process should facilitate theh
convergence of movements and activists (and whomever is interested in
knowing more of what happens in that space) in a "virtual open space". I so
have the impression that designing that "virtual open space" should be at
the centre of our work as comcom (if i udnerstand correctly both the vision
of the forum and the mandate of the commission).

I have the impression that for this to be done what really needs to be done
is a technical exercise (one that is always recursively build on ongoing
cultural-political reflection) to set up a sophisticated webspace where
people can meet, exchange, follow the forum, browse, research, engage,
express, share... i mean, communicate!

The second thing i wanted to say is that the other role of the comcom could
be that of some form of outreach, or publicity: tell people, circulate the
news that there iss such a space and on an ongoing way make sure that access
to that platform is possible and improved where necessary. If this makes
sense, i wish i could say i can contribute to the actual techincal aspect of
"organising the virtual open space" but i possibly am not skilled enough (if
at all). But on the second aspet, that of outreach i could do something that
might not be completely useless.

Finally i will of course be as all the others here an enthusiastic
participant of the dynamics in that space and otherwise said a producer of
content and engagements...

ON THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS: i'm putting in contact mallory with one of the key
people of the FSF INdia who singlehandedly since the beginning of the Mumabi
process was taking care of the office system (later helped by more FSF
activistss). He is a developer of incrediibly sophisticated systems and who
knows? he might be interested in participating here.....

ciao
giuseppe

2009/10/25 Pierre George <pierregrg@...>

>
> EN Dear friends
>
> Thanks Rita for making this document aiming at making a synthesis of  our
> last chat . It is a delicate task,  and the document  is open to  inputs. I
> may make some  in the coming days
>
> The text is put in the wiki page here :
> http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/report-cs-22-oct-09
>
> it is important to note , as it is said in Rita's text, that our chat
> focused only in the first two part of the current com plan : 1/ seminar and
> 2/ alternate media  and this gave way to some positive transversal
> discussions.
>
> Other parts 3/ to 8/ where not commented yet, they will probably be in our
> next chats and  this may give rise to other transversal discussions,
> complementing  the one we had last wednesday
>
> http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/communication-plan-2010-11-draft
>
> Here are  the links to titles put on the last wednesday chat  minutes
> They give direct  access to part of the same chat , so it is easy to browse
> through the chat
>
> This technique of titles- links inserted in chats can help sharing the
> dynamics of a chat with those who could not attend it
>
> Most significant part of discussion are in section 12 to 16
>
> wednesday chat october 22nd 6<http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/minutes-cs-22-oct-09/#4.wednesday%20chat%20october%2031st%7Coutline>
>
> Participation 6<http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/minutes-cs-22-oct-09/#4.0.1.Participation%20%7Coutline>
>
> before start 6<http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/minutes-cs-22-oct-09/#4.0.2.before%20start%20%7Coutline>
>
> start- completing the weekly comcom meeting skype list 6<http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/minutes-cs-22-oct-09/#4.0.3.start-%20completing%20the%20weekly%20comcom%20meeting%20skype%20list%7Coutline>
>
> IPS contribution for 2010 7<http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/minutes-cs-22-oct-09/#4.0.4.IPS%20contribution%20for%202010%7Coutline>
>
> Meeting in Ghana? African videos 7<http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/minutes-cs-22-oct-09/#4.0.5.Meeting%20in%20Ghana_%20African%20videos%7Coutline>
>
> Alessandra views on com plan– Jason ‘s reply 8<http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/minutes-cs-22-oct-09/#4.0.6.%20Alessandra%20views%20on%20com%20plan%u2013%20Jason%20%u2018s%20reply%7Coutline>
>
> *Including “who does what when how” in the scanning of the plan? 8<http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/minutes-cs-22-oct-09/#4.0.7.Including%20%u201Cwho%20does%20what%20when%20how%u201D%20in%20the%20scanning%20of%20the%20plan_%7Coutline>
> *
>
> Two layers in the plan 8<http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/minutes-cs-22-oct-09/#4.0.8.Two%20layers%20in%20the%20plan%20%7Coutline>
>
> Comcom rabat mandate 8<http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/minutes-cs-22-oct-09/#4.0.9.Comcom%20rabat%20mandate%7Coutline>
>
> scanning with three questions 9<http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/minutes-cs-22-oct-09/#4.0.10.scanning%20with%20three%20questions%7Coutline>
>
> Comcom seminar 9<http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/minutes-cs-22-oct-09/#4.0.11.Comcom%20seminar%7Coutline>
>
> Alternate media – plan paragraph 10<http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/minutes-cs-22-oct-09/#4.0.12.Alternate%20media%20%u2013%20plan%20paragraph%7Coutline>
>
> Alternate media part first round of comments 11<http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/minutes-cs-22-oct-09/#4.0.13.Alternate%20media%20part%20first%20round%20of%20comments%7Coutline>
>
> alternate media : who is doing what ? 12<http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/minutes-cs-22-oct-09/#4.0.14.alternate%20media%20:%20who%20is%20doing%20what%20_%20%7Coutline>
>
> rita vision 12<http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/minutes-cs-22-oct-09/#4.0.15.rita%20vision%20%7Coutline>
>
> *looking for a common frame in alternate media part 12<http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/minutes-cs-22-oct-09/#4.0.16.looking%20for%20a%20common%20frame%20in%20alternate%20media%20part%7Coutline>
> *
>
> *discussion on “team directing local support in events” 13<http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/minutes-cs-22-oct-09/#4.0.17.discussion%20on%20%u201Cteam%20directing%20local%20support%20in%20events%u201D%20%7Coutline>
> *
>
> *reframing the paragraph 14<http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/minutes-cs-22-oct-09/#4.0.18.%20reframing%20the%20paragraph%7Coutline>
> *
>
> *Who does what ? 14<http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/minutes-cs-22-oct-09/#4.0.19.Who%20does%20what%20_%7Coutline>
> *
>
> *our challenge in 2010 and in the future: work mostly on line to sustain
> openspace wsf facilitating communities 14<http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/minutes-cs-22-oct-09/#4.0.20.our%20challenge%20in%202010%20and%20in%20the%20future:%20work%20mostly%20on%20line%20to%20sustain%20openspace%20wsf%20facilitating%20communities%20%7Coutline>
> *
>
> *what is the “target” of alternate media com plan –media activists or
> event organizers? 15<http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/minutes-cs-22-oct-09/#4.0.21.what%20is%20the%20%u201Ctarget%u201D%20of%20alternate%20media%20com%20plan%20%u2013media%20activists%20or%20event%20organizers_%7Coutline>
> *
>
> *experience transfer : policy and tools two sides of the same coin 15<http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/minutes-cs-22-oct-09/#4.0.22.experience%20transfer%20:%20policy%20and%20tools%20two%20sides%20of%20the%20same%20coin%20%7Coutline>
> *
>
> *project oriented to policy oriented 16<http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/minutes-cs-22-oct-09/#4.0.23.project%20oriented%20to%20policy%20oriented%20%7Coutline>
> *
>
> Rest of the plan ?–who does what 16<http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/minutes-cs-22-oct-09/#4.0.24.Rest%20of%20the%20plan%20_%u2013who%20does%20what%20%7Coutline>
>
> scan it together for vision and synergies ? 16<http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/minutes-cs-22-oct-09/#4.0.25.scan%20it%20together%20for%20vision%20and%20synergies%20_%7Coutline>
>
> Who is “we” ? 16<http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/minutes-cs-22-oct-09/#4.0.26.Who%20is%20%u201Cwe%u201D%20_%20%7Coutline>
>
> *what are comcom working groups for ? how to include ? 17<http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/minutes-cs-22-oct-09/#4.0.27.what%20are%20comcom%20working%20groups%20for%20_%20how%20to%20include%20_%7Coutline>
> *
>
> montreal report progress 17<http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/minutes-cs-22-oct-09/#4.0.28.montreal%20report%20progress%7Coutline>
>
> Minutes and Report of this chat -next monday - 17<http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/minutes-cs-22-oct-09/#4.0.29.Minutes%20and%20Report%20of%20this%20chat%20-next%20monday%20-%20%7Coutline>
>
> Dakar seminar participation 18<http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/minutes-cs-22-oct-09/#4.0.30.Dakar%20seminar%20participation%20%7Coutline>
>
> resources com request – summarizing form 18<http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/minutes-cs-22-oct-09/#4.0.31.resources%20com%20request%20%u2013%20summarizing%20form%7Coutline>
>
> ciao 19<http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/minutes-cs-22-oct-09/#4.0.32.ciao%7Coutline>
>
>
> The page where the minutes are is this
> http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/minutes-cs-22-oct-09
>
> This is last line of the table here giving a record of a significant number
> of chats
> http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/weekly-chats
>
> to see all wiki page in comcom :
> http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/contents
>
> warm regards to all - Pierre
> _____________________________________
>
> ES Querid@s amig@s
>
> Gracias Rita por hacer este documento apuntando sintetizar nuestra última
> charla. Es una tarea delicada ,  y el documento  es abierto a insumos.
> Talvez yo haga unos en los proximos dias,
> El texto esta en la pagina wiki  :
> http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/report-cs-22-oct-09
>
> Los lazos hacia el plan del chat  estan arriba, y  se puede acceder
> directamente a las varias partes  ( especialmente las de secciones 12 a 15)-
> se hace asi mas facil percorrer el chat ,
>
> Esta tecnica de titulos- lazos insertado en un chat  puede ayudar a
> compartir  la dinamica de un chat par los que no puedieron participar
>
> Es importante señalar como esta mencionado en el texto de Rita que nuestra
> charla se centró en la primera parte dos de el plan actual OCM: 1 /
> seminario y 2 / medios de comunicación alternativos y dio paso a un debate
> transversal positivo
>
> Otras partes 3 / a 8 /  del plan no se comentaron todavia , y probablement
> se revisaran en nuestro próximos chats y pueden dar lugar a otras
> elaboraciones transversales  complementado o matizando la que se tuvo el
> pasado miercolos
>
> http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/communication-plan-2010-11-draft
>
> Minutas  completas estan aqui
> http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/minutes-cs-22-oct-09
>
> La pagina de minutas esta aqui
> http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/weekly-chats
>
> para ver todas la paginas wiki de comcom :
> http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/contents
>
> saludos a tod@s Pierre
>
>
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