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    Subject: Fwd: [psysr-militarism-action] FW: Some of the U.S. military elite
    share QAnon, 2020 lies, racism on-line
    To: Ramona Rhoades <ramonapty@...>, Elvin Rudy <elvinsrudy@...>,
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    White supremacy in SOCOM.
    
    Paul
    
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    *From: *Bradley Olson <Bradley.Olson@...>
    *Subject: **[psysr-militarism-action] FW: Some of the U.S. military elite
    share QAnon, 2020 lies, racism on-line*
    *Date: *July 27, 2021 at 8:22:21 PM EST
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    By Carol E. Lee
    Some of the U.S. military elite share QAnon, 2020 lies, racism on-line <
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/secret-facebook-groups-america-s-best-warriors-share-racist-jabs-n1263985
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    WASHINGTON — They're the most elite, lethally trained members of the U.S.
    military, widely considered the best of the best. And yet in secret
    Facebook groups exclusively for special operations forces that were
    accessed by NBC News, they share misinformation about a "stolen" 2020
    election, disparaging and racist comments about America's political
    leadership and even QAnon conspiracy theories.
    Among the hundreds of Facebook posts NBC News reviewed from forums for
    current and former Rangers, Green Berets and other elite warriors: a member
    of a special forces group lamenting that several aides to former Vice
    President Mike Pence were part of a "Concerted effort by the thieves and
    pedophiles walking the hallowed halls of the peoples government" to
    undermine former President Donald Trump.
    "In a just world, they would have already been taken out behind the court
    house and shot," another member commented.
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    In yet another post, a member of one of the groups responded to criticism
    of the Black Lives Matter movement with an image of a noose and the message
    "IF WE WANT TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN WE WILL HAVE TO MAKE EVIL PEOPLE
    FEAR PUNISHMENT AGAIN."
    "The story of radicalization in special operations is a story that needs to
    be told," said Jack Murphy, a former Army Ranger and Green Beret who has
    written extensively about the special operations forces community. "It has
    shocked and horrified me to see what's happened to these guys in the last
    five or six years."
    Extremism in the military has been in the spotlight since more than two
    dozen current and former service members were linked to the storming of the
    U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6. But the private Facebook groups reveal an
    underbelly of a segment of the military that has long been revered as
    America's front line of defense.
    NBC News reviewed posts from four private groups that describe themselves
    as solely for special operations forces. While the majority of the content
    in two of the groups, SF Brotherhood - PAC and US Special Forces Team Room,
    is political in nature, the forums shouldn't be seen as reflective of the
    overall views of the whole special operations forces community.
    Collectively, the two groups have more than 5,000 members, with some
    belonging to both. U.S. Special Operations Command has about 70,000
    personnel, and there are tens of thousands more retired members of special
    operations forces.
    Facebook has flagged a few of the posts in the groups as including false
    information, or they have received pushback from fellow members.
    An announcement in the Facebook group US Special Forces Team Room last year
    tells members to be careful of what they post because "someone is always
    watching and collecting."obtained by NBC News
    The politically charged ones often ridicule President Joe Biden —
    describing him as "senile" and weak compared to leaders like Russian
    President Vladimir Putin — and refer to Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin with
    derogatory terms like "bubba."
    Many of the posts express support for Trump, including his false claims of
    widespread fraud in the 2020 election. One member of a group, for instance,
    commented on an image of law enforcement officers with their guns drawn
    while barricaded inside the House chamber during the Jan. 6 riot, writing,
    "too bad they didn't bother to defend the Constitution."
    Other posts promote conspiracy theories that those involved in the Jan. 6
    riot were members of antifa and Black Lives Matter, not Trump supporters.
    "Trump was sabotaged once again!" a member of US Special Forces Team Room
    wrote Jan. 7 about the Capitol riot. And because of those posing as Trump
    supporters at the Capitol, he added, "trying to get to the bottom of the
    obvious election fraud now looks like it doesn't have a chance."
    "Well said!" a member responded. But another disagreed. "Nope, they were
    definitely real trump supporters," he wrote.
    Robert Wilson, a former Green Beret who was commander of the 3rd Special
    Forces Group, said members of the community "are radicalizing themselves
    online, just like many of these lone-wolf ISIS terrorists did."
    "It's a problem, and it's an internal threat to the United States," said
    Wilson, who was counterterrorism director on the National Security Council
    during the Obama and Trump administrations.
    The secret Facebook groups for special operations forces can be found only
    by members. All of the groups reviewed by NBC News say they rigorously vet
    their members to ensure tat their special operations forces backgrounds are
    authentic.
    SF Brotherhood – PAC, for instance, tells its 719 members that "only SF
    vetted are allowed here" and urges them to "Remain Quiet Professionals." US
    Special Forces Team Room, which has 4,700 members, is described as "for US
    Special Forces qualified individuals only."
    "You can say what you want, post what you want, but most importantly you
    can dislike what you want and get over it. Same rules as a team room," the
    group's description says. (A "team room"<
    https://special-ops.org/special-operations-team-room/> is what a special
    operations unit calls the room where members congregate while deployed, and
    one rule is that what happens there, stays there.)
    The two other groups reviewed by NBC News focused largely on military news,
    although there were some discussions about political issues, such as
    discussions about members of the military who participated in the Jan. 6
    riot.
    While the groups include current special operations forces, more members
    are retired than active-duty, a member said. NBC News reached out to
    members of the groups behind the posts described in this article — all of
    whom are men — but none of them responded on the record.
    Garry Reid, director for defense intelligence at the Defense Department,
    said the Pentagon is trying to better "identify, detect, categorize and
    take action against any such behaviors in this department."
    "This is very disturbing material for me and very disturbing content that
    in no way would mirror the behavior expected of persons employed by the
    Department of Defense, and certainly not serving in the U.S. military,"
    Reid said.
    When it comes to special operations forces, he said, "because of the
    sensitivity of the missions and the criticality to security that some of
    these operations have, people would be even more concerned and upset to
    know that that exists in that community."
    Such behavior isn't acceptable in the military, but it can be difficult to
    detect and root out, he said.
    "Humans have thoughts, and we don't like all the thoughts that people have.
    But what's not tolerated is putting thoughts into action," Reid said. "And
    taking action in this case, [meaning] posting something to a site on the
    internet, is contrary to policy, because it is espousing the views that
    bring forward aspects of hate and violence and unlawful discrimination.
    That is just flatly unacceptable."
    The posts viewed by NBC News "would be a reason for further investigation,"
    he said.
    A spokesperson for Facebook said that while its private groups have the
    option to be visible or hidden, the company's standards apply to both, and
    that they are enforced by a combination of technology and employees who
    review content.
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    >
    'I am concerned about active duty'<
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    >
    
    The military's handling of extremism in its ranks has come under intense
    scrutiny in recent months, and internal data about the scope of the problem
    are scant. The Pentagon has acknowledged that it doesn't know how many
    current or former service members are affiliated with extremist groups.
    Since the attack on the Capitol, the military has sought to get a better
    sense of the problem. Austin ordered a 60-day "stand-down" to address the
    issue, and last week he released a memo outlining new initiatives based on
    initial findings.
    A Countering Extremism Working Group will oversee the implementation of the
    initiatives, according to the memo. They include screening military
    recruits for extremist behavior and training outgoing service members in
    ways extremist groups might target them.
    U.S. Special Operations Command, or SOCOM, also published a plan last month
    to try to improve racial and ethnic diversity and remove bias within an arm
    of the military that is overwhelmingly white and male. "As national and
    global demographics shift and become more diverse, so must our enterprise,"
    the Diversity and Inclusion Strategic Plan states.
    A recent attempt by SOCOM's recent moves to address diversity created a
    hiccup. SOCOM reassigned the organization's new chief of diversity and
    inclusion because of his social media posts, including a derogatory one
    that essentially compared Trump to Adolf Hitler.
    Some retired special operations forces have been among those facing charges
    in connection with the Jan. 6 riot, including a former Green Beret who is
    charged with assaulting a Capitol Police officer with a flagpole.
    The FBI is investigating active-duty troops and reservists as part of its
    investigation into the riot. There is growing concern that the problem is
    more pervasive than it appears among those currently serving.
    "I am concerned about active duty," Wilson said. "I don't think special
    operations forces just develop these ideas in their head when they get out
    and are in their late 40s. So I think it starts in the military and
    probably gets worse when they're out."
    Part of what could make special operations susceptible to extremism is its
    insular culture, experts said, because it is composed of small, tight-knit
    units and lacks diversity.
    Military officials have acknowledged that rooting out extremism in such a
    vast organization of current and retired personnel is difficult. The
    Pentagon, for instance, doesn't specifically ban membership in extremist
    groups. Among the new efforts outlined in Austin's memo is to update the
    Defense Department's definition of banned extremist activities.
    "The vast majority of those who serve in uniform and their civilian
    colleagues do so with great honor and integrity, but any extremist behavior
    in the force can have an outsized impact," Austin wrote in his recent memo.
    Austin's efforts to address extremism have made him the target of vitriolic
    commentary in the special operations forces Facebook groups.
    Members of the Facebook group SF Brotherhood - PAC react to Defense
    Secretary Lloyd Austin's asking troops to report extremism in the ranks to
    leadership in late February.obtained by NBC News
    "Racist punk," "pus-gut maggot" and "bubba" are some of the attacks on
    Austin in response to his calls for troops to report extremism by fellow
    troops. Other posts question the merit of Austin's Silver Star or say he
    got to his current position only because he's Black.
    "He has risen to the very peak of his profession, riding on the color of
    his skin," a member of SF Brotherhood – PAC wrote Feb. 26 about Austin's
    efforts to address extremism.
    More broadly, in terms of race, there are expressions of frustration in
    multiple posts that white men are being targeted.
    Austin has also come under criticism in the Facebook groups for changes to
    allow transgender people to serve in the military. "Well if this doesn't
    get the troops ready for combat, I am not sure what will!" a member wrote
    when posting a Newsmax story with the headline "US Eyes Free Transgender
    Surgery for Military."
    Heidi Beirich, a co-founder of the Global Project Against Hate and
    Extremism, said the review of the secret Facebook groups was "an incredible
    find" given how difficult it is to get access to the forums.
    "But also it's giving you on the ground real information about the most
    dangerous people in the military, right?" she said. "These are the exact
    troops who we do not want involved with things like QAnon."
    Extremism among special operations forces is particularly dangerous given
    their specialized training, experts said, and that's even more the case
    when it comes to QAnon. The private special operations forces groups
    feature multiple references to QAnon.
    "If you have been following Q for a while you know that Q taught many of us
    lurkers how he was going to communicate with us to by pass the mainstream
    media," a member wrote. "He's a mathematician by trade and had a brilliant
    aptitude to pick up Gematria code early in which the Cabal used to
    communicate with each other on SM," or social media.
    A member of SF Brotherhood - PAC refers to himself as a "lurker" and a Q
    follower in a 2019 post.obtained by NBC News
    Another post elicits QAnon comments from other members after suggesting
    it's suspicious that an aide to Pence, Olivia Troye, publicly turned
    against Trump, that a separate former Pence aide testified in Trump's
    impeachment trial and that one of Pence's former chiefs of staff was
    married to an FBI agent.
    "They will do anything to destroy Trump and Pence in order to prevent them
    from exposing their vile plans," a member responded.
    QAnon followers aren't necessarily common among special operations forces.
    But if any member of the military believes in the conspiracy theory, that
    could create parallel, and competing, chains of command for those forces,
    Murphy argued, given that QAnon followers swear an oath to the movement
    that involves fighting the U.S. government. In the QAnon world, the
    military is responsible for cleansing corruption from the U.S. by rounding
    up politicians, pedophiles and human traffickers.
    "If you really believe that sort of thing and you're a special forces guy,
    explain to me why you wouldn't pick up a gun and do something about it," he
    said, saying his former special forces team sergeant is now a QAnon
    believer who was present at the Capitol on Jan. 6.
    "It's not just the occasional private in the 3rd Infantry," he said. "There
    are senior officers and noncommissioned officers in the military who
    believe this."
    
    Carol E. Lee reported from Washington. Anna Schecter reported from New York.
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Source:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/secret-facebook-groups-america-s-best-warriors-share-racist-jabs-n1263985
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