• 2011movements-fsm discussion

  • Re: Lodging - and related sunday reflections...

    from Azril Bacal on Feb 24, 2013 09:45 AM
    Thank you, Shawn!
    Let us be certain, that not everyone reading my mail will agree with us :-)
    Abrazo
    Azril
    
    On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Shawn Carrié <shawn@...> wrote:
    > That was the best email I've read in a long time.
    >
    >
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    > #
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    > ------ Original message ------
    > From: Azril Bacal
    > Date: 2/24/2013 02:47
    > To: 2011movements-fsm-wsf-discussion@...;
    > Cc: AHLEM BOUSSERWEL;mariangela;Beatriz Bissio Staricco;Antonio
    > Martins;Antonio Martins;jasper teunissen;Jai Sen;
    > Subject:[2011movements-fsm discussion] Lodging - and related sunday
    > reflections...
    >
    > Greetings, Shawn,
    >
    > Let us hope that you/we succeed in that task, to avoid becoming
    > "homeless" participants at the WSF 2013 in Tunisia :-)
    >
    > It is a fact of the WSF-process - and from its very inception, that
    > "some" among us remain "more equal" than others, in what concerns
    > funding, a self-defined decision-making "elite" and related matters.
    >
    > Maybe it is an unavoidable organizational contradiction even in paradise.
    >
    > Even to physically make it to the WSF implies such a privileged difference.
    > In other words, we are part of an elitist egalitarian process
    > (hopefully in the long run), even though privileges have a way to be
    > reproduced to the bitter end, right
    >
    > This is an unpleasant self-critical reflection that jumped into my
    > mind on this early winterish sunday morning.
    >
    > Nevertheless, given the inherit imperfection and contradictions of
    > human life, in this stage of human development, I do consider the
    > WSF-process to be one of the most valuable socio-political initiatives
    > of the 21st century.
    >
    > It is also a slow global learning process, that should in due time and
    > some amount of soul-searching, raise the level of awareness, humility
    > and practical sharing solidarity, beyond our current charity-like
    > "solidarity funding," among the more "prima (donna) inter pares" in
    > our midst. For instance, by sharing hotel spaces, even the carpet
    > space - in their 5 and 4 stars hotels, or? :-)
    >
    > Let us also hope, that our tunisian comrades find solidarity lodgement
    > possibilities with tunisian "real people," without excluding our
    > activist community.
    >
    > If we are truly to become a new "planetarian tribe," engaged in the
    > construction of new possible worlds, it is high time to start sharing
    > our homes - and hotel facilities as well, or?
    >
    > Abrazos provocativos,
    > Azril
    > ____
    >
    > On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:36 PM, Shawn Carrié  wrote:
    >> Greetings, Azril,
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> I am like you, I am waiting for others to provide more information,
    >> because
    >> I myself will be looking for a place to stay in Tunis.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> I am offering to do the task of contacting people in Tunis, in case other
    >> people are too busy to do this task - but I don't have any contacts, so I
    >> would just need to be provided with the names and contact information
    >> (phone, email) of people in Tunis.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> #
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    >>
    >> ------ Original message ------
    >> From: Azril Bacal
    >> Date: 2/23/2013 12:08
    >> To:
    >> 2011movements-fsm-wsf-discussion@...;shawn@...;
    >> Cc: AHLEM BOUSSERWEL;mariangela;Beatriz Bissio Staricco;Antonio
    >> Martins;Antonio Martins;jasper teunissen;
    >> Subject:Re: [2011movements-fsm discussion] Lodging
    >>
    >> Hello Shawn,
    >> Great news!
    >> For the time being, from the activity we are organizing on
    >> "Dialogue between Religions and Civilizations"
    >> we are three persons seeking for places to sleep at the university
    >> and/or staying with local residents in Tunis.
    >> >From about 24/3
    >> Thank you Shawn, waiting for your tips.
    >> Abrazo
    >> Azril
    >> _____
    >>
    >> We are prepared to share one room together:
    >> Antonio Martins (antonio@...,
    >> antoniomartinsbrasil@...),
    >> Beatriz Bissio (bbissio@...) and myself
    >> Azril Bacal (bazril1@...) or bazril1@lamolina,edu.pe
    >>
    >>
    >> 2013/2/22 Shawn Carrié :
    >>> If someone can give me the information of people who need to be contacted
    >>> regarding lodging? I speak French and am willing to take initiative to
    >>> find
    >>> us more options like staying in the universities, or possibly arranging
    >>> to
    >>> stay with local residents in Tunis.
    >>>
    >>> ~~
    >>>
    >>> Si quelqu'un peut me donner les infos des personnes qu'il faut contacter
    >>> pour arranger hébergement, je serais heureux de proposer à leur parler de
    >>> nous rester à l'université où le Forum est organisé, ou encore, peut-être
    >>> rester avec des gens tunisiens aimables qui seraient prêtes à accueillir
    >>> les
    >>> étrangers.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> À+!
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> #
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> ------ Original message ------
    >>> From: AHLEM BOUSSERWEL
    >>> Date: 2/21/2013 16:53
    >>> To: 2011movements-fsm-wsf-discussion@...;
    >>> Cc: mariangela;Beatriz Bissio Staricco;Antonio Martins;Antonio
    >>> Martins;jasper teunissen;
    >>> Subject:Re: [2011movements-fsm discussion] Lodging
    >>>
    >>> dears ;
    >>>
    >>> I think you dont want to reserved at Hotels ?
    >>> I THINK   WSF have a places at hearth university , i don't if a just
    >>> definition of " FOYER UNIVERSIATIRE "
    >>>
    >>> Ahlem Bousserwel
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Le 21 février 2013 22:29, Azril Bacal  a écrit :
    >>>>
    >>>> Aloha!
    >>>> Same as Mariangela, no hotel.
    >>>> Would love to stay at the university, if possible.
    >>>> Please, kindly let me/us know.
    >>>> Abrazo
    >>>> Azril
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    >>>> From: marita
    >>>> Date: 2013/2/21
    >>>> Subject: Re: [2011movements-fsm discussion] Lodging
    >>>> To: 2011movements-fsm-wsf-discussion@...
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> I personally didnt get any hotel and i will be pleased to stay in the
    >>>> university
    >>>> Waiting for that
    >>>> Mariangela
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> El 21/02/2013, a las 18:21, hamouda soubhi escribió:
    >>>>
    >>>> Dear all,
    >>>> We are waiting for a convention with the STUDENT UNION to have places
    >>>> in the university
    >>>> hamouda
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Le 13-02-21 00:56, « Daniel Seco »  a écrit :
    >>>>
    >>>> Hi all
    >>>> Hella has found for us a bit of info on lodging through the organization
    >>>> of WSF.
    >>>>
    >>>> She wrote me afterwards to say that we should email directly the
    >>>> fsm@... about anything like this.
    >>>>
    >>>> Can any supernice canadian woman around here translate the part in
    >>>> French into English? Please??
    >>>>
    >>>> For what I understand (but my french is not so good) we are mainly
    >>>> offered hotels. The prices are not better than the one that I got 3
    >>>> months ago without it (the day I came back from Florence I booked a
    >>>> hotel room that was the cheapest available and offered free
    >>>> cancellation).
    >>>> So if it is about hotels, I am personally done. If we find a "more
    >>>> social" lodging I am willing to save money and join everyone.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> --- El mié, 20/2/13, unfoundeyes@...  escribió:
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> De: unfoundeyes@...
    >>>> Asunto: Re: Fwd: Re:
    >>>> Para: "Daniel Seco"
    >>>> Fecha: miércoles, 20 de febrero, 2013 21:33
    >>>>
    >>>> Good evening Mr Daniel,
    >>>>
    >>>> please to find here after the answer of the a specificagency to my
    >>>> inquiry for the venue preparation.
    >>>> The below email is from an agency which specifies the terms for the
    >>>> reservation for a group.
    >>>> I invite you to contact directly the email adress
    >>>> hebergement@..., as I specified during the meeting to Mr
    >>>> Jasper who communicated it in the minutes, in order to have specific
    >>>> offers and to guide you to the specific agency.
    >>>> I checked it now it's working and they'll give you specific answers.
    >>>> So please to provide details about the days for arrival, number of
    >>>> persons to book, during of the stay and if shuttle services would be
    >>>> needed to have a specific offer.
    >>>> Hoping to have a successfull forum.
    >>>> Regards
    >>>> Hella
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> ________________________________
    >>>> De : fsm
    >>>> À : unfoundeyes@...
    >>>> Envoyé le : Mercredi 20 février 2013 17h09
    >>>> Objet : Re: Fwd: Re:
    >>>>
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    >>>> #yiv1402398358  table.yiv1402398358mceClonedResizable {outline:1px
    >>>> dashed black;} Bonjour,
    >>>>  Faisant suite à votre demande, nous avons le plaisir de vous proposer
    >>>> ce
    >>>> qui
    >>>>  suit:
    >>>>
    >>>> A) Objet :  Séjour  du 25/03 au 31/03/2013
    >>>>
    >>>> B) Hébergement :
    >>>>
    >>>>  Chambres  à usage Single et double en  logement et petit déjeuner
    >>>>
    >>>> C)  Hôtels proposés et Tarifs:
    >>>>
    >>>> l’hôtel Caribbean Word 3* Zone touristique Gammarth:
    >>>> Chambre à usage single à raison de 28 EUR en logement et petit déjeuner
    >>>> par
    >>>>  jour et par chambre
    >>>> Chambre à usage Double à raison de 35 EUR en logement et petit déjeuner
    >>>> par jour
    >>>>  et par chambre
    >>>>
    >>>> l’hôtel Phebus 4* Zone touristique Gammarth:
    >>>> Chambre à usage single à raison de 33 EUR en logement et petit déjeuner
    >>>> par jour
    >>>> et par chambre
    >>>> Chambre à usage Double à raison de 40 EUR en logement et petit déjeuner
    >>>> par jour
    >>>> et par chambre
    >>>>
    >>>> l’hôtel Golden tulip Gammarth 5* Zone touristique Gammarth:
    >>>> Chambre à usage single à raison de 115 EUR en logement et petit déjeuner
    >>>> par
    >>>> jour et par chambre
    >>>> Chambre à usage Double à raison de 130 EUR en logement et petit déjeuner
    >>>> par
    >>>> jour et par chambre
    >>>>
    >>>> l’hôtel Tunis Grand Hotel 5* Tunis:
    >>>> Chambre à usage single à raison de 95 EUR en logement et petit déjeuner
    >>>> par jour
    >>>> et par chambre
    >>>> Chambre à usage Double à raison de 125 EUR en logement et petit déjeuner
    >>>> par
    >>>> jour et par chambre
    >>>>
    >>>> D) Confirmation :
    >>>>
    >>>> La confirmation de la réservation du service commandé se fera sur simple
    >>>> demande
    >>>>  par e-mail.
    >>>>
    >>>>         -Rooming List :
    >>>>
    >>>> La répartition définitive ainsi que les noms des clients doivent être
    >>>>  communiqués à l’agence avant deux semaines de l’arrivée du groupe.
    >>>> Toute
    >>>>  chambre  supplémentaire sera confirmée selon disponibilité.
    >>>>
    >>>> NB : L’heure de « check in» est fixée à 14h. Toute demande de « Early
    >>>> Chek
    >>>> in »
    >>>>  sera accordée selon disponibilité.
    >>>>
    >>>> L’heure de « check out» est fixée à 12h. Toute demande de départ tardif
    >>>> sera
    >>>>  accordée selon disponibilité
    >>>>
    >>>> E)   Modalité de Paiement :
    >>>>
    >>>> Le paiement des services rendus par l’agence sont payables comme suit :
    >>>>
    >>>>        - 50% basée sur la totalité des prestations réservées à la
    >>>> confirmation
    >>>>  du séjour
    >>>>
    >>>>       - Le Reliquat à la réception de la Rooming List soit une semaine
    >>>> avant
    >>>>  l’arrivée
    >>>>
    >>>> Ci-dessous les coordonnées bancaires :
    >>>>
    >>>> Bénéficaire : Corporate Travel
    >>>>
    >>>> Banque : Amen Bank
    >>>>
    >>>> RIB :07038005010110030094
    >>>>
    >>>> IBAN : TN5907038005010110030094
    >>>>
    >>>> Code Bic : CFCTTNTT
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> F)  Annulation et No Show :
    >>>>
    >>>> En cas d’annulation les 50% versées à la confirmation ne sont pas
    >>>> remboursés.
    >>>>
    >>>> En cas de No Show, tout le séjour confirmé sera facturé.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> G) Date d’option : Le 23/02/ 2013
    >>>>
    >>>> A l’échéance de cette date la réservation sera annulée sans préavis.
    >>>>
    >>>> H) L’agence s’engage à garantir les prestations réservées selon les
    >>>> conditions
    >>>> mentionnées ci-dessus
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> I)  Toute prestation supplémentaire : Transfert, navette salle de
    >>>> réunion,
    >>>>   assistance durant séjour, location de voitures sera communiqué à part.
    >>>>
    >>>> Un formulaire de réservation et une Facture proforma vous seront envoyés
    >>>> à
    >>>> la
    >>>>  confirmation.
    >>>>
    >>>> Veuillez  accepter nos salutations les plus distinguées.
    >>>>
    >>>> Bonne réception
    >>>>
    >>>> Cordialement
    >>>>
    >>>> TBESSI AMEL
    >>>> > Le 20 février 2013 à 12:58, hebergement@... a écrit :
    >>>> >
    >>>> >
    >>>> >
    >>>> >
    >>>> > -------- Message original --------
    >>>> > Objet: Re:
    >>>> > Date: 2013-02-18 12:44
    >>>> > De: unfoundeyes@...
    >>>> > À: "hebergement@..."
    >>>> >
    >>>> > Merci de me répondre c'est urgent
    >>>> >
    >>>> > -------------------------
    >>>> > DE : "unfoundeyes@..."
    >>>> > À : "hebergement@..."
    >>>> > ENVOYÉ LE : Lundi 18 février 2013 12h06
    >>>> > OBJET :
    >>>> >
    >>>> > Bonjour,
    >>>> > il y-a beaucoup de personnes qui demandent comment vont être prévues
    >>>> > les réservations, ils essaient de contacter ce email mais sans
    >>>> > réponse.
    >>>> > Merci de m'informer comment mieux communiquer sur les tarifs et
    >>>> > réductions.
    >>>> > Cordialement
    >>>> > Hella
    >>
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