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Re: Lodging - and related sunday reflections...

de la part de Azril Bacal on 24/02/2013 09:45
Thank you, Shawn!
Let us be certain, that not everyone reading my mail will agree with us :-)
Abrazo
Azril

On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Shawn Carrié <shawn@...> wrote:
> That was the best email I've read in a long time.
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> ------ Original message ------
> From: Azril Bacal
> Date: 2/24/2013 02:47
> To: 2011movements-fsm-wsf-discussion@...;
> Cc: AHLEM BOUSSERWEL;mariangela;Beatriz Bissio Staricco;Antonio
> Martins;Antonio Martins;jasper teunissen;Jai Sen;
> Subject:[2011movements-fsm discussion] Lodging - and related sunday
> reflections...
>
> Greetings, Shawn,
>
> Let us hope that you/we succeed in that task, to avoid becoming
> "homeless" participants at the WSF 2013 in Tunisia :-)
>
> It is a fact of the WSF-process - and from its very inception, that
> "some" among us remain "more equal" than others, in what concerns
> funding, a self-defined decision-making "elite" and related matters.
>
> Maybe it is an unavoidable organizational contradiction even in paradise.
>
> Even to physically make it to the WSF implies such a privileged difference.
> In other words, we are part of an elitist egalitarian process
> (hopefully in the long run), even though privileges have a way to be
> reproduced to the bitter end, right
>
> This is an unpleasant self-critical reflection that jumped into my
> mind on this early winterish sunday morning.
>
> Nevertheless, given the inherit imperfection and contradictions of
> human life, in this stage of human development, I do consider the
> WSF-process to be one of the most valuable socio-political initiatives
> of the 21st century.
>
> It is also a slow global learning process, that should in due time and
> some amount of soul-searching, raise the level of awareness, humility
> and practical sharing solidarity, beyond our current charity-like
> "solidarity funding," among the more "prima (donna) inter pares" in
> our midst. For instance, by sharing hotel spaces, even the carpet
> space - in their 5 and 4 stars hotels, or? :-)
>
> Let us also hope, that our tunisian comrades find solidarity lodgement
> possibilities with tunisian "real people," without excluding our
> activist community.
>
> If we are truly to become a new "planetarian tribe," engaged in the
> construction of new possible worlds, it is high time to start sharing
> our homes - and hotel facilities as well, or?
>
> Abrazos provocativos,
> Azril
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> On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:36 PM, Shawn Carrié  wrote:
>> Greetings, Azril,
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>> I am like you, I am waiting for others to provide more information,
>> because
>> I myself will be looking for a place to stay in Tunis.
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>> I am offering to do the task of contacting people in Tunis, in case other
>> people are too busy to do this task - but I don't have any contacts, so I
>> would just need to be provided with the names and contact information
>> (phone, email) of people in Tunis.
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>> #
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>> ------ Original message ------
>> From: Azril Bacal
>> Date: 2/23/2013 12:08
>> To:
>> 2011movements-fsm-wsf-discussion@...;shawn@...;
>> Cc: AHLEM BOUSSERWEL;mariangela;Beatriz Bissio Staricco;Antonio
>> Martins;Antonio Martins;jasper teunissen;
>> Subject:Re: [2011movements-fsm discussion] Lodging
>>
>> Hello Shawn,
>> Great news!
>> For the time being, from the activity we are organizing on
>> "Dialogue between Religions and Civilizations"
>> we are three persons seeking for places to sleep at the university
>> and/or staying with local residents in Tunis.
>> >From about 24/3
>> Thank you Shawn, waiting for your tips.
>> Abrazo
>> Azril
>> _____
>>
>> We are prepared to share one room together:
>> Antonio Martins (antonio@...,
>> antoniomartinsbrasil@...),
>> Beatriz Bissio (bbissio@...) and myself
>> Azril Bacal (bazril1@...) or bazril1@lamolina,edu.pe
>>
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>> 2013/2/22 Shawn Carrié :
>>> If someone can give me the information of people who need to be contacted
>>> regarding lodging? I speak French and am willing to take initiative to
>>> find
>>> us more options like staying in the universities, or possibly arranging
>>> to
>>> stay with local residents in Tunis.
>>>
>>> ~~
>>>
>>> Si quelqu'un peut me donner les infos des personnes qu'il faut contacter
>>> pour arranger hébergement, je serais heureux de proposer à leur parler de
>>> nous rester à l'université où le Forum est organisé, ou encore, peut-être
>>> rester avec des gens tunisiens aimables qui seraient prêtes à accueillir
>>> les
>>> étrangers.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> À+!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> #
>>>
>>>
>>> ------ Original message ------
>>> From: AHLEM BOUSSERWEL
>>> Date: 2/21/2013 16:53
>>> To: 2011movements-fsm-wsf-discussion@...;
>>> Cc: mariangela;Beatriz Bissio Staricco;Antonio Martins;Antonio
>>> Martins;jasper teunissen;
>>> Subject:Re: [2011movements-fsm discussion] Lodging
>>>
>>> dears ;
>>>
>>> I think you dont want to reserved at Hotels ?
>>> I THINK   WSF have a places at hearth university , i don't if a just
>>> definition of " FOYER UNIVERSIATIRE "
>>>
>>> Ahlem Bousserwel
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 21 février 2013 22:29, Azril Bacal  a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> Aloha!
>>>> Same as Mariangela, no hotel.
>>>> Would love to stay at the university, if possible.
>>>> Please, kindly let me/us know.
>>>> Abrazo
>>>> Azril
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: marita
>>>> Date: 2013/2/21
>>>> Subject: Re: [2011movements-fsm discussion] Lodging
>>>> To: 2011movements-fsm-wsf-discussion@...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I personally didnt get any hotel and i will be pleased to stay in the
>>>> university
>>>> Waiting for that
>>>> Mariangela
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> El 21/02/2013, a las 18:21, hamouda soubhi escribió:
>>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>> We are waiting for a convention with the STUDENT UNION to have places
>>>> in the university
>>>> hamouda
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Le 13-02-21 00:56, « Daniel Seco »  a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> Hi all
>>>> Hella has found for us a bit of info on lodging through the organization
>>>> of WSF.
>>>>
>>>> She wrote me afterwards to say that we should email directly the
>>>> fsm@... about anything like this.
>>>>
>>>> Can any supernice canadian woman around here translate the part in
>>>> French into English? Please??
>>>>
>>>> For what I understand (but my french is not so good) we are mainly
>>>> offered hotels. The prices are not better than the one that I got 3
>>>> months ago without it (the day I came back from Florence I booked a
>>>> hotel room that was the cheapest available and offered free
>>>> cancellation).
>>>> So if it is about hotels, I am personally done. If we find a "more
>>>> social" lodging I am willing to save money and join everyone.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- El mié, 20/2/13, unfoundeyes@...  escribió:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> De: unfoundeyes@...
>>>> Asunto: Re: Fwd: Re:
>>>> Para: "Daniel Seco"
>>>> Fecha: miércoles, 20 de febrero, 2013 21:33
>>>>
>>>> Good evening Mr Daniel,
>>>>
>>>> please to find here after the answer of the a specificagency to my
>>>> inquiry for the venue preparation.
>>>> The below email is from an agency which specifies the terms for the
>>>> reservation for a group.
>>>> I invite you to contact directly the email adress
>>>> hebergement@..., as I specified during the meeting to Mr
>>>> Jasper who communicated it in the minutes, in order to have specific
>>>> offers and to guide you to the specific agency.
>>>> I checked it now it's working and they'll give you specific answers.
>>>> So please to provide details about the days for arrival, number of
>>>> persons to book, during of the stay and if shuttle services would be
>>>> needed to have a specific offer.
>>>> Hoping to have a successfull forum.
>>>> Regards
>>>> Hella
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> De : fsm
>>>> À : unfoundeyes@...
>>>> Envoyé le : Mercredi 20 février 2013 17h09
>>>> Objet : Re: Fwd: Re:
>>>>
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>>>> dashed black;} Bonjour,
>>>>  Faisant suite à votre demande, nous avons le plaisir de vous proposer
>>>> ce
>>>> qui
>>>>  suit:
>>>>
>>>> A) Objet :  Séjour  du 25/03 au 31/03/2013
>>>>
>>>> B) Hébergement :
>>>>
>>>>  Chambres  à usage Single et double en  logement et petit déjeuner
>>>>
>>>> C)  Hôtels proposés et Tarifs:
>>>>
>>>> l’hôtel Caribbean Word 3* Zone touristique Gammarth:
>>>> Chambre à usage single à raison de 28 EUR en logement et petit déjeuner
>>>> par
>>>>  jour et par chambre
>>>> Chambre à usage Double à raison de 35 EUR en logement et petit déjeuner
>>>> par jour
>>>>  et par chambre
>>>>
>>>> l’hôtel Phebus 4* Zone touristique Gammarth:
>>>> Chambre à usage single à raison de 33 EUR en logement et petit déjeuner
>>>> par jour
>>>> et par chambre
>>>> Chambre à usage Double à raison de 40 EUR en logement et petit déjeuner
>>>> par jour
>>>> et par chambre
>>>>
>>>> l’hôtel Golden tulip Gammarth 5* Zone touristique Gammarth:
>>>> Chambre à usage single à raison de 115 EUR en logement et petit déjeuner
>>>> par
>>>> jour et par chambre
>>>> Chambre à usage Double à raison de 130 EUR en logement et petit déjeuner
>>>> par
>>>> jour et par chambre
>>>>
>>>> l’hôtel Tunis Grand Hotel 5* Tunis:
>>>> Chambre à usage single à raison de 95 EUR en logement et petit déjeuner
>>>> par jour
>>>> et par chambre
>>>> Chambre à usage Double à raison de 125 EUR en logement et petit déjeuner
>>>> par
>>>> jour et par chambre
>>>>
>>>> D) Confirmation :
>>>>
>>>> La confirmation de la réservation du service commandé se fera sur simple
>>>> demande
>>>>  par e-mail.
>>>>
>>>>         -Rooming List :
>>>>
>>>> La répartition définitive ainsi que les noms des clients doivent être
>>>>  communiqués à l’agence avant deux semaines de l’arrivée du groupe.
>>>> Toute
>>>>  chambre  supplémentaire sera confirmée selon disponibilité.
>>>>
>>>> NB : L’heure de « check in» est fixée à 14h. Toute demande de « Early
>>>> Chek
>>>> in »
>>>>  sera accordée selon disponibilité.
>>>>
>>>> L’heure de « check out» est fixée à 12h. Toute demande de départ tardif
>>>> sera
>>>>  accordée selon disponibilité
>>>>
>>>> E)   Modalité de Paiement :
>>>>
>>>> Le paiement des services rendus par l’agence sont payables comme suit :
>>>>
>>>>        - 50% basée sur la totalité des prestations réservées à la
>>>> confirmation
>>>>  du séjour
>>>>
>>>>       - Le Reliquat à la réception de la Rooming List soit une semaine
>>>> avant
>>>>  l’arrivée
>>>>
>>>> Ci-dessous les coordonnées bancaires :
>>>>
>>>> Bénéficaire : Corporate Travel
>>>>
>>>> Banque : Amen Bank
>>>>
>>>> RIB :07038005010110030094
>>>>
>>>> IBAN : TN5907038005010110030094
>>>>
>>>> Code Bic : CFCTTNTT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> F)  Annulation et No Show :
>>>>
>>>> En cas d’annulation les 50% versées à la confirmation ne sont pas
>>>> remboursés.
>>>>
>>>> En cas de No Show, tout le séjour confirmé sera facturé.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> G) Date d’option : Le 23/02/ 2013
>>>>
>>>> A l’échéance de cette date la réservation sera annulée sans préavis.
>>>>
>>>> H) L’agence s’engage à garantir les prestations réservées selon les
>>>> conditions
>>>> mentionnées ci-dessus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I)  Toute prestation supplémentaire : Transfert, navette salle de
>>>> réunion,
>>>>   assistance durant séjour, location de voitures sera communiqué à part.
>>>>
>>>> Un formulaire de réservation et une Facture proforma vous seront envoyés
>>>> à
>>>> la
>>>>  confirmation.
>>>>
>>>> Veuillez  accepter nos salutations les plus distinguées.
>>>>
>>>> Bonne réception
>>>>
>>>> Cordialement
>>>>
>>>> TBESSI AMEL
>>>> > Le 20 février 2013 à 12:58, hebergement@... a écrit :
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > -------- Message original --------
>>>> > Objet: Re:
>>>> > Date: 2013-02-18 12:44
>>>> > De: unfoundeyes@...
>>>> > À: "hebergement@..."
>>>> >
>>>> > Merci de me répondre c'est urgent
>>>> >
>>>> > -------------------------
>>>> > DE : "unfoundeyes@..."
>>>> > À : "hebergement@..."
>>>> > ENVOYÉ LE : Lundi 18 février 2013 12h06
>>>> > OBJET :
>>>> >
>>>> > Bonjour,
>>>> > il y-a beaucoup de personnes qui demandent comment vont être prévues
>>>> > les réservations, ils essaient de contacter ce email mais sans
>>>> > réponse.
>>>> > Merci de m'informer comment mieux communiquer sur les tarifs et
>>>> > réductions.
>>>> > Cordialement
>>>> > Hella
>>
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