Re: [NetworkedLabour] Cybernetics, social systems engineering,
'world forums' in balance, and the Club of Rome
de la part de
peter waterman
on 22/11/2016 12:26
Orsan:
This statement puts you in the same general camp as that of the
imperialism-fixated James Petras and What'sHisName from Global Research:
'In the first report they were calling for formation of a World Forum (on
economic, political, and social issues). Some thirty years later we got all
these forums sat in motion as World Economic Forum, World Social Forum, and
World Political Forum. As it was appeared sort of an alternative tripartite
model for the Good Governance of Globalization.
As similar to the New World Order conspiracies... those who were in the
kitchen of these three forums were linked to Club of Rome.'
Oh!
So the WSF is part of a Club of Rome Conspiracy? I don't think, actually,
that either JP or GR would say this of the WSF, even if they condemn it or
criticise it. I think that - imperialism-fixated as they are - they produce
evidence and theory.
Seems anything you disagree with becomes part of this global capitalist
conspiracy.
As a long-standing critic, from both inside and outside the WSF, 'I have no
need for this hypothesis'. But this should surely lead to you considering
me a) blind, b) stupid, c) a 'fellow traveller' or d) a useful idiot
manipulated by the Global Capitalist Conspiracy.
Do let me know what you think about this.
P
On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 11:40 AM, Orsan <orsan1234@...> wrote:
>
> Here is the first ever report published by the Club of Rome, written. by a
> Turkish cybernetist Hasan Ozbekhan, who was also asked (not clear know by
> who) to organize the initial Rome meeting of the club:
> http://quergeist.net/Christakis/predicament.pdf
>
> See then 40 year preview of this private club: https://www.
> laetusinpraesens.org/links/clubrome.php#repo
>
> What is striking is Ozbekhan called in three other consultants, experts in
> complex system managers and cyberneticists, to set the thing up.
>
> These consultants "included Alexander Christakis
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Christakis>, Erich Jantsch
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Jantsch>, and Aurelio Peccei
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurelio_Peccei>. The "prospectus" in the
> form of a "report to the Club of Rome" was entitled: *The Predicament for
> Mankind: Quest for Structured Responses to Growing World-wide Complexities
> and Uncertainties* <http://quergeist.net/Christakis/predicament.pdf>
> (1970).
>
> The Institutional and funding support was provided by Institute Batalle
> based in Geneva in Switzerland. [Interesting what links Rome and
> Switzerland is Vatican and its Switz guards (as a juicy conspiracy
> element)].
>
> In the first report they were calling for formation of a World Forum (on
> economic, political, and social issues). Some thirty years later we got all
> these forums sat in motion as World Economic Forum, World Social Forum, and
> World Political Forum. As it was appeared sort of an alternative tripartite
> model for the Good Governance of Globalization.
>
> As similar to the New World Order conspiracies... those who were in the
> kitchen of these three forums were linked to Club of Rome.
>
> In the absence of clear left analysis, critique, and action against such
> an elitist ruling - class project, or involvement, the emancipatory aspects
> of such projects did not thrive yet in opposition pave way to growing
> assaults fro radicalizing nationalist capital and ruling class fractions.
> Left and 'liberals' (in the US), had been seen puppets of the globalist
> power elite.
>
> This story was given conspiracy tone and made easy accessible and chewable
> for the white Anglo Saxon male protestant middle classes that are losing
> ground.
>
> In short we all have a stake and role in coming to today, we are at the
> brink of the third imperialist capitalist corrective intra-class war.. with
> nukes.
>
> There were many things we could have done but we didn't, and we have
> watched the things to unfold in to this irreversible point. Like we all
> were paralyzed.
>
> Now at least we need a real story to tell our children, ones that had
> been, murdered, still alive, and yet to be born...
>
> Shall the force be with you..
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