hi wedad, I'm happy too
--- El mié 1-oct-08, wedad abedalrem <wedad_sud@...> escribió:
De: wedad abedalrem <wedad_sud@...>
Asunto: Re: [Communication commission discussion] Chats
Para: communication-commission-discussion@...
Fecha: miércoles, 1 de octubre de 2008, 5:02 pm
hi Norma
am very happy to discuss the issue in chat with each aother can you but the agenda and time and put time table for this and after that am going to arrange my time also i can speake english in simple way that we can understand each other am very happy to commuicaite with people from out side Sudan
--- On Wed, 10/1/08, Norma Fernandez <normafer2003@...> wrote:
From: Norma Fernandez <normafer2003@...>
Subject: Re: [Communication commission discussion] Chats
To: communication-commission-discussion@...
Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 11:43 AM
Sí, estoy de acuerdo. Creo que lo ideal es fijar un día de la semana (por ejemplo miércoles) en forma permanente y un horario (me parece que las 5 de la tarde para nosotros era la que había dicho Pierre como mejor, pero para los indianos era al mediodía, consensuá eso). Yo mientras sea de miércoles a viernes puedo acomodarme. Y por supuesto, armar la agenda. Ahora es imprescindible tener claro qué se decidió en Dinamarca sobre aspectos básicos para seguir adelante. Yo añado la posibilidad de hacer otra reunión de comunicación en Guatemala en el FSA camino a Belem, y luego cada área tendrá temas específicos.
Es cierto que están las otras herramientas, pero el chat al ser compartido por el grupo al mismo tiempo permite tomar decisiones. Deberíamos usarlas a todas.
--- El mié 1-oct-08, FSM Site <fsmsite@...> escribió:
De: FSM Site <fsmsite@...>
Asunto: [Communication commission discussion] Chats
Para: communication-commission-discussion@...
Cc: fsm2009com-discussion@...
Fecha: miércoles, 1 de octubre de 2008, 2:01 pm
[Portuñol / English]
Norma, Wedad,
en la ultima semana havia sugerido en el grupo FSM 2009 Com un chat para los updates desde Copenhagen y Belém, pero las personas estaban en transito y deciram para aguardarmos el reporte sobre el meeting de Comunicación en Copenhagen.
No tuvimos quórum para el último chat y veo que el flujo de información (sea en las listas de correo o en el sítio OpenFSM) está muy bajo.
Los chats son importantes, pero no creo que son la única forma de comunicación que tenemos.
Mesmo asi, creo que desde ahora tenemos que hacer chats periódicos (semanales, a cada dos semanas...) del FSM 2009 Com. Pero para que sean productivos (y para evitar el sentimiento del peros al redor de su rabo) creo que tres cosas necesitan ser combinadas:
- el mejor HORA y DÍA para todos (incluso los de otro lado del mundo)
- siempre pensar en la AGENDA ANTES de los chats
- solucionar LA QUESTIÓN DE LOS IDIOMAS en los chats
Más cuestiones do que respuestas,
Thiago
------------------------------
Norma, Wedad,
one week ago there was a suggestion for a chat on WSF 2009 Com group, so we could have updates about Copenhagen and Belem, but people were in transit and said for us to wait for the report about the meeting in Copenhagen.
We didn't have quorum on the last chat and I see that the information flow (in mailing lists or in OpenFSM) is very low.
Chats are important, but I don't think it's the only way for us to communicate.
Event tough, I think we need to start periodical chats (weekly, every two weeks...) for WSF 2009 Communication group. But fort that to be productive (and to aviod the "dog trying to bite his own tail" feeling) I think three things have to be agreed:
- the best DAY and TIME for everybody (including the ones on other countries)
- always set up IN ADVANCE the CHAT AGENDA
- to solve the LANGUAGE ISSUE for the chats
More questions than answers,
Thiago Benicchio
World Social Forum Office - Sao Paulo, Brazil
+55-11-3258-8914
skype user: benicchio
On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 08:53 -0700, Norma Fernandez wrote:
my english is very bad. I ask if today we will have a chat
--- El mié 1-oct-08, wedad abedalrem <wedad_sud@...> escribió:
De: wedad abedalrem <wedad_sud@...>
Asunto: Re: [Communication commission discussion] comcom in CI in copenhagen - some notes
Para: communication-commission-discussion@...
Fecha: miércoles, 1 de octubre de 2008, 12:02 pm
hi Norma well you please send your massege in English wedad
--- On Wed, 10/1/08, Norma Fernandez <normafer2003@...> wrote:
From: Norma Fernandez <normafer2003@...>
Subject: Re: [Communication commission discussion] comcom in CI in copenhagen - some notes
To: communication-commission-discussion@...
Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 7:50 AM
Puede alguien confirmar si habrá chat hoy?
--- El mié 1-oct-08, wedad abedalrem <wedad_sud@...> escribió:
De: wedad abedalrem <wedad_sud@...>
Asunto: Re: [Communication commission discussion] comcom in CI in copenhagen - some notes
Para: communication-commission-discussion@...
Fecha: miércoles, 1 de octubre de 2008, 10:45 am
hi Pierre how are you and how do you do it is long time am not hear from you i have some problem in computer but now it is working for that am not answer your massage . Pierre their some massage not in English can you translate best regard wedad
--- On Fri, 9/26/08, Pierre George <pierregrg@...> wrote:
From: Pierre George <pierregrg@...>
Subject: [Communication commission discussion] comcom in CI in copenhagen - some notes
To: fsm2009com-discussion@..., communication-commission-discussion@...
Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 11:57 AM
hello - hola - hi
Here are some notes taken during the ic regarding comcom - you can "polish them"
Aqui hay notas tomadas durante el ci tocando comcom - pueden "pulir" las
will send later the document adopted about principes for organizing an event ...
http://openfsm.net/projects/communication-commission/comcom-and-ic-meeting-in-copenhagen-sept22
Abrazos /cheers
Pierre
2008/9/26 Pierre George <pierregrg@...>
voy a hacer un documento hoy pierre
2008/9/25 Thiago Benicchio <thiago.wsf@...>
Norma,
retransmito la pregunta para los colegas que están en Dinamarca: "alguna novedad del CI y de un posible chat el viernes (sexta)?"
abrazos,
Thiago Benicchio
World Social Forum Office - Sao Paulo, Brazil
+55-11-3258-8914
skype user: benicchio
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 15:07 -0700, Norma Fernandez wrote:
Hola Thiago, tenemos alguna novedad del CI y de un posible chat el viernes (sexta)?
--- El vie 19-sep-08, FSM Site <fsmsite@...> escribió:
De: FSM Site <fsmsite@...>
Asunto: Re: [FSM 2009 - Comunicacao] [EN-PT] Chat ?
Para: fsm2009com-discussion@...
Fecha: viernes, 19 de septiembre de 2008, 3:43 pm
(PORTUGUÊS ABAIXO)
Hi Jason,
I don't think we'll have quorum for the chat today.
Anyway, the IC discussion is very important, for sure.
One important question to me is if the mailing lists and spaces for IC Commissions and WGs will be opened (visible to everyone) or restricted (closed archives, only to members).
I see a great possibility on "renewing and refreshing" the WSF if we choose for open planing and archives. Of course some spaces could be restricted, but not the Commissions, that according to WSF "principles", are opened and public. Anyway, to me this is one of the big political discussion that can be taken forward, besides the ones you listed, as budget (and who's responsible for what), the communication plan update and websites and tools.
Some days ago I sent a message to Com Com asking for documents to be discussed in the IC for us to make available in the WSFIC space in OpenFSM - http://openfsm.net/projects/wsfic_fsmci. If you want/can, please send me the documents you think people must read. Until now, we just have there the documents sent by Bia Barbosa and Pierre, regarding the projects for WSF 2009 Communication.
all the best and have a good meeting,
----------------
Hola Jason,
Não acho que teremos quorum para o chat hoje.
De qualquer forma, a discussão no CI é muito importante.
Uma questão importante para mim é se as listas de discussão e espaços das comissões e GTs do CI serão abertas (visíveis para todo mundo) ou restritas (com arquivos fechados, somente para membros).
Vejo que existe uma enorme possibilidade re "refrescar e renovar" o FSM se escolhermos pelo planejamento e pelos arquivos abertos. É óbvio que alguns espaços específicos podem ser restritos, mas não os espaços (e listas) das Comissões, que, de acordo com os princípios do FSM, são espaços abertos e públicos. De qualquer forma, creio que esta seja uma das grandes discussões políticas que podem ser levadas adiante, além das que você listou, como orçamento (e quem é responsável pelo que), o plano de comunicação e os sites e ferramentas.
Alguns dias atrás eu mandei uma mensagem para a lista da Com Com perguntando por documentos que serviriam de base para as discussões no CI, para que nós pudéssemos disponibilizar no espaço do CI no OpenFSM - http://openfsm.net/projects/wsfic_fsmci. Se você quiser/puder, por favor me mande os documentos que acredita serem necessários e importantes para que as pessoas leiam. Até agora, temos apenas os documentos enviados pela Bia Barbosa e pelo Pierre, sobre os projetos de Comunicação para o FSM 2009.
tudo de bom e uma boa reunião,
Thiago Benicchio
World Social Forum Office - Sao Paulo, Brazil
+55-11-3258-8914
skype user: benicchio
On Fri, 2008-09-19 at 19:53 +0200, Jason Nardi wrote:
Dear Thiago and all,
I just was able to get online... but I think that the best thing now
would be to propose a list of issues to discuss at the Com. com.
meeting on the first day of the IC.
On my side, here is my proposal:
- Report on the wsf2008 communication project: results, budget, challanges.
- Communicating the world social forum: towards Belem and after
(proposals, support, media work, etc.)
- Websites and other tools for the WSF "integrated" communication process
- Organising the working groups in an open and inclusive way.
Please comment, add, etc.
saludos,
Jason
2008/9/15 FSM Site <fsmsite@...>:
> Car@s,
>
> está na hora de nos encontrarmos novamente em um chat antes do CI?
>
> Que tal quarta-feira (17)? E qual é um bom horário?
>
> Fundamental, no entanto, montarmos a pauta antes. Sugestões?
>
> ------------------
>
> Dear colleagues,
>
> is it time for us to meet again in a chat before the IC?
>
> How about this wednesday (17)? And at what time?
>
> If so, it's very important to build the agenda in advance. Any suggestion?
>
>
>
> Thiago Benicchio
> World Social Forum Office - Sao Paulo, Brazil
>
+55-11-3258-8914
> skype user: benicchio
>
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