Dear All, from the conversation so far in this list the following issues
seem to have been raised

1. it would be useful to circulate a report about the meetings of the
com-com in Montreal (all of them, not only the final reports in the plenary)

2. There is the need to clarify the nature of the fundraising and reflect on
the implication that it has on the actual work plan and the role of the
group

3. There is the need to share the proposed plans for collective revision

4. I would add that I would like to know what kind of regular meetings are
taking place of which not all members might have knowledge of (chats, skypes
etc.)

5. finally it would be useful to establish a relatively short deadline for
the presentation to the IC of the com plan as we promised during the report
to the plenary (i have the impression that failing to do that could severely
compromise the reputation of the group, but maybe that's just my reading of
it)

is there anything else missing in this list?

So my proposals point by point

1. On the reports: all those who were there have notes or can quickly makes
notes of those meetings, if we agree we can circulate them here for those
who were not present (we had a meeting in the morning of the third day of
the IC, one at night that day, one dinner meeting the following day and some
had a final meeting on saturday night)

2. On fundraising could we have some more information from perhaps others so
that we can have enough deliberation on what alessandra and roberto were
discussing?

3. Pierre, Jason? could you please share with us whatever preliminary draft
you guys have prepared that we were supposed to discussed and we did not
have the chance to, so that we can do so now in this list?

4. Whoever knows about what regular meetings are scheduled and what agendas
those meetings have etc.?

5. As for the deadline i suggest the last day of the month, in two weeks to
come up with a consensual plan to offer the IC for perusal

Ok this is what i have in mind. Suggestions? Ideas?

Ciao
giuseppe


2009/10/16 Roberto Savio <utopie@...>

>  Alessandra, let me beg to disagree. In Parma we had a mandate for one
> year, and then , in the following IC I did present a request for confirming
> that mandate, and through the general indifference that was given...I still
> have my report with me.....if we had minutes it would be there....but we
> just read our reports, there is no place to deposit them....
> that said I am delinquent of not being able to accompany the work of the
> commission, because of my other  engagement with the World Political Forum,
> so I shut up.
> hugs roberto
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> At 23.12 15/10/2009, Alessandra Ceregatti wrote:
>
> Hello, all,
>
> 1. I also would like to hear a summary of meeting held on the night of 8th;
> or, if you think the meeting has not advanced very much, I can send them my
> comments and suggestions to the plan
>
> 2. About the mandate of the Communication Commission, Savio, I have one
> correction: the mandate was given to elaborate the plan, fundraise and
> implement it for 2008 mobilization process as stated in the IC report of the
> Nairobi IC meeting in January 2007, but not for forever. That decision was
> made at the final of the meeting and some people consensus was not so clear
> on that.
>
> Anyway, due to the concerns raised on the Montreal meeting of the
> Communication Commission it is really important that a summary report of the
> incomes, expenses of the resources raised by the Com-com be presented to the
> commission itself and to the IC (even if it is a preliminary version since I
> understood that the project will only be finished by October).
>
> cheers,
>
> alessandra
>
> 2009/10/15 Roberto Savio <utopie@...>
>  well,I heard the recording of the commission. Without a chair variegated
> and committed people tend to discuss about their perception and priorities,
> and while the debate has very interesting moments, it was not conducive to
> present a report to the plenary. And yet there were lot of documents and a
> power point...
> I think Giuseppe request is a very reasonable one, and i hope the
> Commission will be able to integrate the various proposal into an organic
> plan.
> My I remind everybody that the commission has received a mandate to do its
> own fundraising and administering the plan.
> Of course, to report to the plenary would have been better, both in terms
> of good governance and interaction with the Council( even if it is hard to
> discern any noticeable effect, after so many years of ignored reporting to
> the plenary). But as this did not happen, now let us go, adopt a plan, and
> fund rise and implement it.
> wishes, roberto savio
>
>
>
>
>
> At 09.21 15/10/2009, you wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
> (Desafortunadamente mi castellano es demasiado pobre para mi escribir aca
> en los dos idiomas, espero que esto no sea un problema muy grande)
>
> first of all thank you Z for this contribution. I wish to remind the group
> taking this opportunity that we had promised Amit and the whole IC that a
> communication plan would be delivered to the IC soon after the IC and in
> very short time indeed. Due to some strange misunderstanding we did not end
> up having a final meeting after the presentation of the USSF, but some of us
> did if i undersatnd correctly.
>
> Now, i beleive it would be useful for those who met to tell us, all of us
> involved in the group, what came out of that meeting so that we can pull all
> our creative resources together and produce a consensus plan to be delivered
> to the IC as we promised.
>
> Looking forward to hearing from you all guys and to keep working with you
> Ciao
> giuseppe
>
>
>
> 2009/10/14 Zoul <zoul@...> where you can download and listen the
> content of the debates of the afternoon of the 8th of october in Montréal : http://zoulstory.outrenet.com/conferences/fsm/ci/oct-09-montreal/ you
> can also read a "coup de gueule" that i wrote after this day... (in french) Good
> luck Zoul
>
>
> *[Zoulstory.com] Et si on arrêtait d’avoir peur ? Le Forum Social Mondial
> dans des beaux draps…*
>
>
> Cette année, à Montréal, pour préparer ses 10 ans, le forum social s’est
> mis dans de beaux draps, au sens propre, comme au figuré. Est-ce la peur qui
> a dirigé ces mauvais choix ? Ou bien est-ce cela que nous entendons par « Un
> autre monde est possible » qu’on ne cesse de répéter, tel un mantra, pour ne
> plus avoir à travailler pour le construire ? Peut-être avons-nous simplement
> cessé d’y croire ? Sommes-nous satisfaits du salaire de nos peines ?
>
>
> http://www.zoulstory.com/blog/?2009/10/10/366--zoulstorycom-et-si-on-arretait-davoir-peur-le-forum-social-mondial-dans-des-beaux-draps
>
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