RE: Re: on mandate to fundraise/recordings of ic meeting audio
from
dan baron
on Oct 16, 2009 12:56 PM
Hi all
Greetings from Belem. I am accompanying this important discussion, though I am in the final phase of preparation of a Latin American Summit and a World Summit to develop a new paradigm of education, and will have little time to participate until November 10th.
I participated in the Montreal meetings of ComCom and recognise the methodological challenges of working simultaneously in an 'open space' forum and maintaining continuity/implementing IC decisions. Despite important critical reflection about the WSF (which surfaced in all Commissions' discussions and dominated our's), and about ComCom's communication politics, our meetings did not resolve the methodological challenge. However, the discussion about the format of the IC meeting (it's 'internal communication') was essential, for the format not only suffers from and reinforces the same methodological challenges. It also generates a political culture of untransparency, inhibition, tension and apparent superficiality. To its credit, ComCom had the courage to face this and the 'coordinators' of ComCom chaired a 15 minute 'dialogic' experiment within an IC plenary on the WSF 2010 Process which momentarily transformed its culture and made possible a participatory political dialogue between networks, NGOs, countries and alternatives.
I do not offer this as a report (and I support the suggestion to build a consensual report on the ComCom meetings), but as a perspective and reason to propose an additional item to Giuseppe's agenda, below. We need to discuss ComCom's structure and methodology, as a priority. This should also be a priority in the IC, as both profoundly affect the dominant methodology and impacts of the WSF process. The challenges I mention above imply the need for transparent coordination and decision-making, a mechanism for integrating new people/networks, and a confident understanding of the relationship between organization and 'open-space'. Without this, few people will participate actively, and those who do will suffer growing frustration, not least, because they cannot do all the work that needs to be done and know that the process is not meaningfully collective or inclusive. With this issue resolved, even for an experimental period, we will move faster, with more depth and innovation, and we will ensure that any critical reflection opens and closes our virtual or 'presential' meetings, and is not stimulated or dominated by them.
I have proposals to offer about this, but will wait first to hear if this reflection is accepted as the basis of building an agreement on ComCom's 'structure of organization and methodology'.
Thanks for reading this in English. I can translate into portuguese at another time.
In solidarity
Dan
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:44:45 +0300
Subject: Re: [Communication commission discussion] Re: on mandate to fundraise - Re: [Communication commission discussion] recordings of ic meeting audio
From: giu.caruso@...
To: communication-commission-discussion@...
Dear All, from the conversation so far in this list the following issues seem to have been raised
1. it would be useful to circulate a report about the meetings of the com-com in Montreal (all of them, not only the final reports in the plenary)
2. There is the need to clarify the nature of the fundraising and reflect on the implication that it has on the actual work plan and the role of the group
3. There is the need to share the proposed plans for collective revision
4. I would add that I would like to know what kind of regular meetings are taking place of which not all members might have knowledge of (chats, skypes etc.)
5. finally it would be useful to establish a relatively short deadline for the presentation to the IC of the com plan as we promised during the report to the plenary (i have the impression that failing to do that could severely compromise the reputation of the group, but maybe that's just my reading of it)
is there anything else missing in this list?
So my proposals point by point
1. On the reports: all those who were there have notes or can quickly makes notes of those meetings, if we agree we can circulate them here for those who were not present (we had a meeting in the morning of the third day of the IC, one at night that day, one dinner meeting the following day and some had a final meeting on saturday night)
2. On fundraising could we have some more information from perhaps others so that we can have enough deliberation on what alessandra and roberto were discussing?
3. Pierre, Jason? could you please share with us whatever preliminary draft you guys have prepared that we were supposed to discussed and we did not have the chance to, so that we can do so now in this list?
4. Whoever knows about what regular meetings are scheduled and what agendas those meetings have etc.?
5. As for the deadline i suggest the last day of the month, in two weeks to come up with a consensual plan to offer the IC for perusal
Ok this is what i have in mind. Suggestions? Ideas?
Ciao
giuseppe
2009/10/16 Roberto Savio <utopie@...>
Alessandra, let me beg to disagree. In Parma we had a mandate for one year, and then , in the following IC I did present a request for confirming that mandate, and through the general indifference that was given...I still have my report with me.....if we had minutes it would be there....but we just read our reports, there is no place to deposit them....
that said I am delinquent of not being able to accompany the work of the commission, because of my other engagement with the World Political Forum, so I shut up.
hugs roberto
At 23.12 15/10/2009, Alessandra Ceregatti wrote:
Hello, all,
1. I also would like to hear a summary of meeting held on the night of 8th; or, if you think the meeting has not advanced very much, I can send them my comments and suggestions to the plan
2. About the mandate of the Communication Commission, Savio, I have one correction: the mandate was given to elaborate the plan, fundraise and implement it for 2008 mobilization process as stated in the IC report of the Nairobi IC meeting in January 2007, but not for forever. That decision was made at the final of the meeting and some people consensus was not so clear on that.
Anyway, due to the concerns raised on the Montreal meeting of the Communication Commission it is really important that a summary report of the incomes, expenses of the resources raised by the Com-com be presented to the commission itself and to the IC (even if it is a preliminary version since I understood that the project will only be finished by October).
cheers,
alessandra
2009/10/15 Roberto Savio <utopie@...>
well,I heard the recording of the commission. Without a chair variegated and committed people tend to discuss about their perception and priorities, and while the debate has very interesting moments, it was not conducive to present a report to the plenary. And yet there were lot of documents and a power point...
I think Giuseppe request is a very reasonable one, and i hope the Commission will be able to integrate the various proposal into an organic plan.
My I remind everybody that the commission has received a mandate to do its own fundraising and administering the plan.
Of course, to report to the plenary would have been better, both in terms of good governance and interaction with the Council( even if it is hard to discern any noticeable effect, after so many years of ignored reporting to the plenary). But as this did not happen, now let us go, adopt a plan, and fund rise and implement it.
wishes, roberto savio
At 09.21 15/10/2009, you wrote:
Dear All,
(Desafortunadamente mi castellano es demasiado pobre para mi escribir aca en los dos idiomas, espero que esto no sea un problema muy grande)
first of all thank you Z for this contribution. I wish to remind the group taking this opportunity that we had promised Amit and the whole IC that a communication plan would be delivered to the IC soon after the IC and in very short time indeed. Due to some strange misunderstanding we did not end up having a final meeting after the presentation of the USSF, but some of us did if i undersatnd correctly.
Now, i beleive it would be useful for those who met to tell us, all of us involved in the group, what came out of that meeting so that we can pull all our creative resources together and produce a consensus plan to be delivered to the IC as we promised.
Looking forward to hearing from you all guys and to keep working with you
Ciao
giuseppe
2009/10/14 Zoul <zoul@...>
where you can download and listen the content of the debates of the afternoon of the 8th of october in Montréal :
http://zoulstory.outrenet.com/conferences/fsm/ci/oct-09-montreal/
you can also read a "coup de gueule" that i wrote after this day... (in french)
Good luck
Zoul
[Zoulstory.com] Et si on arrêtait d’avoir peur ? Le Forum Social Mondial dans des beaux draps…
Cette année, à Montréal, pour préparer ses 10 ans, le forum social s’est mis dans de beaux draps, au sens propre, comme au figuré. Est-ce la peur qui a dirigé ces mauvais choix ? Ou bien est-ce cela que nous entendons par « Un autre monde est possible » qu’on ne cesse de répéter, tel un mantra, pour ne plus avoir à travailler pour le construire ? Peut-être avons-nous simplement cessé d’y croire ? Sommes-nous satisfaits du salaire de nos peines ?
http://www.zoulstory.com/blog/?2009/10/10/366--zoulstorycom-et-si-on-arretait-davoir-peur-le-forum-social-mondial-dans-des-beaux-draps
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