thanks Rita, important words yours. Let's continue this conversation if
there is interest
abrazos
g

On 19 January 2011 01:37, rita freire <ritafreir@...> wrote:

>  Giuseppe, Jason, Com Comand IC friends
> (Giuseppe - We're translating your article to share your ideias next little
> meeting of Ciranda in São Paulo
> Also your proposal, Jason.)
>
> I agree that the path we tread is a bit too naive and romantic to the
> dimension of the WSF. At the same time I don't think this will be resolved
> chasing every new tool or the mainstream media, but rather seeking to
> articulate ourselves with creative movements and militant fronts, fighting
> for the democratization of communication in the world (And expressing it
> through the communication of the WSF).
>
> How we do it?
>
> The space of the WSF should be appropriate for this debate. Not (just) as
> a working group but as part of the process.
>  I'd like to share the information that we're going to be part of 2
> activities in the WSF in order to share ideas about these questions.
> One of them is a seminar called by Ritimo and coorganized with some
> alternative media  (Feb, 8)
> Another  will be made with Boaventura (and Intervozes, from Brazil, and
> FemNet, Africa) and .... , about the shared communication in times of
> wikileaks (Feb, 9)
>
> Maybe, as Com Com Group, we should identify all the discussions on
> communication in the WSF and join them. Also disseminate them. How about
> produce produce a small folder about them?
>
> It would be great a meeting of Com Com before the IC and after general
> debates on communication.
>
> I'd like to ask your attencion for the Assemblies guidance.
>
> Who is thinking to call something related with communication? We are
> seriously thinking about
> Let's to coordenate each other to build a common calendar (if not a common
> assembly, and why not?)
>
> Rita
>
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>
> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Giuseppe Caruso <giu.caruso@...>wrote:
>
>> Jason and Ana
>>
>> thanks for your comments. For practical reasons I responded to your
>> comments (and others') in the blog, here
>>
>>
>> http://giuseppecaruso.wordpress.com/2011/01/14/talking-about-the-world-social-forum-beyond-mainstream-media-and-movements-hegemonic-leaderships/
>>
>> very interesting conversation indeed, thanks!
>> Giuseppe
>>
>>
>>
>> On 18 January 2011 11:23, Jason Nardi <jason.nardi@...> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you GIuseppe.
>>>
>>> Your analysis is thought provoking and stimulating and I wish we could
>>> have this kind and level of discussion in the WSF (IC and not only).  I
>>> think we are stuck in an old counter-hegemonic model that is out of sync
>>> with time and with the reality of social movements today.  Not that all the
>>> discussions taking place during the forums are not relevant.  It's just the
>>> Forum itself which needs to evolve with an organisational effort that really
>>> is too tied to traditional civil society forms of meetings and is becoming
>>> less relevant for the struggles of today.  Think of what is happening in
>>> Tunisia, Iran, China and other countries, where people organise in very
>>> difficult context but are able to communicate to the world... if only the
>>> world (social forum) would be able to offer a way / space / tools /
>>> facilitation to listen and interact.  On converging issues, which are many,
>>> building a sense of common effort and strategy.
>>>
>>> Communication (not in the sense of information, but certainly not
>>> excluding it) is key for all this.  It takes time, but also will..
>>>
>>> Anyway, I hope we can have some "converging" moments to discuss these
>>> matters in Dakar.
>>>
>>> We should al least think of a presential comcom meeting for those that
>>> are there (with possibility of joining through the internet) before the
>>> International Council.   Who is available to help organise it?
>>>
>>> Jason
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Giuseppe Caruso <giu.caruso@...>wrote:
>>>
>>>> dear all,
>>>>
>>>> although i could not make it to the meeting yesterday i wrote something
>>>> that could be of interest for the communication commission. As always feel
>>>> free to pass it on if you find it useful. Sorry if it is just in English
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://giuseppecaruso.wordpress.com/2011/01/14/talking-about-the-world-social-forum-beyond-mainstream-media-and-movements-hegemonic-leaderships/
>>>>
>>>> See you all soon in Dakar
>>>> giuseppe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 16 January 2011 13:42, Ibrahima FALL <ibu_faal@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Welcomme.
>>>>> We'll get in touch as soon as possible.
>>>>> Ibrahima Fall
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Message d'origine ----
>>>>> De : nicolas haeringer <nicolas.haeringer@...>
>>>>> À : communication-commission-discussion@...
>>>>> Envoyé le : Dim 16 janvier 2011, 10h 31min 10s
>>>>> Objet : Re: [Communication commission discussion] Virtual meeting TODAY
>>>>> at 16.00
>>>>> Paris time
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I won't join the meeting, as I'll on my way to the airport, landing in
>>>>> Dakar
>>>>> tonight.
>>>>> If I can be of any help for the comcom once I'm there, let me know.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nicolas
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Le 16 janv. 2011 à 11:16, Jason Nardi a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>> > Dear all
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I'm confirming our meeting today at 4pm.  Imbrahima, Tidiane and
>>>>> others from
>>>>> >Dakar shoulf be able to join us since they will have just finished the
>>>>> >organising committee seminar which is taking place this weekend.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Please make an effort to attend!
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On skype (send me yr skype id if you're not already in)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > cheers,
>>>>> > Jason
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Mallory Knodel <
>>>>> mallory@...> wrote:
>>>>> > Thanks Jason and Dan-
>>>>> >
>>>>> > A total of 4 techies from the US Social Forum will be in Dakar as of
>>>>> this
>>>>> >weekend (me) and over the next week. We will be in Dakar to support
>>>>> organizing
>>>>> >efforts leading up to the forum in any way that is useful to Igor and
>>>>> the local
>>>>> >technology team. If you know of other international techies that will
>>>>> be in
>>>>> >attendance, you can have them contact me in the event that they would
>>>>> like some
>>>>> >collaboration and/or join accommodation.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > We look forward to the meeting on Sunday,
>>>>> > -Mallory
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 01/14/2011 11:50 AM, Jason Nardi wrote:
>>>>> >> Dear Dan and all,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> thanks for this and your previous message!
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I agree with you and relaunch the proposal of having an online
>>>>> meeting on
>>>>> >>Sunday -- I would say both the 16th and the 23rd, since there is a
>>>>> lot to
>>>>> >>discuss.  Perhaps we could do it at 3pm CET (Central European Time -
>>>>> i.e.
>>>>> >>Paris), which could help people from most of the world to join in.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I remind everyone that Judith and the interpreters group is waiting
>>>>> for an
>>>>> >>answer on needs for interpretation for Communication and Media
>>>>>  (Media center,
>>>>> >>Press, Radio, etc.).
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> So please, whoever is concerned, give your ideas and proposals as
>>>>> soon as
>>>>> >>possible.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> An update from Dakar would also be useful.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> The international press has prepared a Press Kit which will be
>>>>> circulated very
>>>>> >>soon.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Cheers,
>>>>> >> Jason
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 1:55 PM, dan baron <danbaronmst@...>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >> Hi Jason and everyone
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Sorry for my delay in responding. We're dealing with many pressures
>>>>> here -
>>>>> >>personal and social - all at once.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Thanks for your proposal to meet. I think it's essential we have a
>>>>> virtual
>>>>> >>meeting before Dakar, and now that your proposal of 6/7 January has
>>>>> passed, what
>>>>> >>about during a weekend, when more of us may be available? Could we
>>>>> try a Sunday
>>>>> >>night, for example (16 or 23)? For me, the 16th would be better, and
>>>>> would give
>>>>> >>us time to act on anything we decide, before Dakar.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> All the best
>>>>> >> Dan
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> >> From: Jason Nardi <jason.nardi@...>
>>>>> >> Date: Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 11:19 AM
>>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Communication commission discussion] WSF Media center
>>>>> >> To: communication-commission-discussion@...
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Hi Tidiane,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> happy new year to you too!
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Thanks a lot for the update, it looks exciting.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I'll consult with Monica about the press kit and get back to you
>>>>> with some
>>>>> >>ideas and contacts by tomorrow.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I think it would be useful to have an online meeting after your
>>>>> meeting on
>>>>> >>Wednesday.  Maybe on the 6th or 7th?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> cheers
>>>>> >> Jason
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Tidiane Kasse <tidiane@...>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >> Hi All  and happy new year
>>>>> >> Some updates
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> 1st point
>>>>> >> We have identified a place for the press center at Dakar university
>>>>> : it is the
>>>>> >>Library. We have there :
>>>>> >> - a room where we 200 journalists or more can fit easily.
>>>>> >> - 40 individual boxes with computer
>>>>> >> - 8 rooms (10 people capacity)
>>>>> >> - two rooms (40 people capacity)
>>>>> >> - a cofee room
>>>>> >> - an Internet cafe
>>>>> >>  - The technical configuration (Infrastructure Networks / Internet /
>>>>> Wireless)
>>>>> >>is by far the best in the university and we just need two specialized
>>>>> lines in
>>>>> >>order to increase the flow for radio and Tv, what we intend to do
>>>>> quickly with
>>>>> >>the IT Department.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> At UCAD 2, where the International Council took place in november
>>>>> and where
>>>>> >>some activities will take place, we have also identified a room we
>>>>> can use for
>>>>> >>press conference. A the room Council took place is also available for
>>>>> the press.
>>>>> >>As well as the restaurant.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> 2nd point
>>>>> >> On january 10th we plan a workshop local press, international press
>>>>> agencies,
>>>>> >>international press correspondent, media organisations and media
>>>>> networks based
>>>>> >>in Senegal, in order to prepare the coverage of the WSF.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> 3rd point
>>>>> >> We will the discuss the Press Kit during our Wednesday meeting. Can
>>>>> you give
>>>>> >>some ideas about what you think is important to be part of this press
>>>>> kit ?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
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>>>>> >
>>>>> > May First/People Link Leadership
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