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Re: [nigd-list] Re: [nigd-list] Re: [nigd-list] RE: [nigd-list] Re: [nigd-list] NIGD in the WSF IC Fwd: [Wsfic_fsmci] RENOVACIÓN DE LA ADHESIÓN DE LOS MEMBRADOS DEL CI/RENEWAL OF THE MEMBERSHIP OF IC/RENOVAÇÃO DA ADESÃO DOS MEMBROS DO CI DO FSM/RENOUVELLEMENT DE L´ADHÉSION DES MEMBRES DU CI

from Azril Bacal on Sep 18, 2017 07:14 AM
Dear Thomas and NIDG:ers,
Slowly and surely the views from older and younger voices are enriching our
debate, concerning our role at the next meeting to renew the IC-WSF and
reactivate the WSF process. Some topic that should be added to the previous
suggestions are:
1) A serious way to address ("read" in Freirean terms) the world
political-economic context (more than 2 minutos per person in the waiting
line!!!).
2) An renew effort to incorporate representatives from indigenous peoples
in the IC-WSF.
3) More support to the Communication Commission to develop an effective
strategy of alternative media to counteract the impact of the hate media.
Once again we need to confront Gramsci's struggle for the minds of people,
when the ugly faces of white national-populism and neo-Nazism are on the
rise.
Abrazos
Azril

On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 10:59 PM, Wallgren Thomas H <
thomas.wallgren@...> wrote:

> Friends
> I support NIGD to continue. Thanks to all who have taken care of this.
>
> I am planning to go to Salvador. (not 100 %) My ideas for what WSF needs
> to address now include
>
> - Why did we lose and  what are the promising responses to authoritarian
> capitalism now ? Learning from Brazil, Bolivia, India, Poland, Turkey,
> Philippines, Egypt, Finland, USA, Greece etc
>
> - My more narrow   proposal is to work on how the civilisational politics
> of, for instance the Pablo Solon Foundacion, Gandhian socialists, Nordic
> ecologists and some of the indigenuous movements converses with the more
> economy centred and technology-optimistic pro-modernity left.
>
> - Beccause of some of my current commitments in my city council I have
> practical interest in working with En comú (Barcelona) and others on the
> "Fearless cities" network to strengthen movement based agency of local
> authorities in world affairs - for instance local currencies, tax haven and
> TTIP free cities, safe havens for paperless migrants etc
>
> I think Azril would be as good as anyone to go to IC for us.
>
> Very best,
>
> Thomas
>
> On 16/09/17 20:09, Azril Bacal wrote:
>
>> Dear Matti,
>> Just for the score, I nominated myself and was fisrt to answer your mail
>> immediately.
>> At any rate, do not wish to compete with Teivo and Ana in that respect.
>> Greetings
>> Azril
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 6:20 PM, Matti Kohonen <matti.kohonen@...
>> <mailto:matti.kohonen@...>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi everyone,
>>
>>     We could think of what we could do for the Salvador WSF in March, it
>>     could be a relaunch of the WSF process and taking stock of where our
>>     world is at the moment (given the rise of far right politics in US
>>     and UK), and not least how things are in Brazil with the end of the
>>     rule of PT (while still holding Salvador).
>>
>>     I'd be happy to second those who have put themselves forward (Ana
>>     and Teivo),
>>
>>     Matti
>>
>>     On 16 September 2017 at 16:39, Ana Margarida Esteves
>>     <anamargarida.esteves@...
>>     <mailto:anamargarida.esteves@...>> wrote:
>>
>>         I feel the impulse of nominating myself. However, I would like
>>         to know what it implies in terms of work.
>>
>>         My best,
>>
>>         Ana Margarida Esteves
>>
>>         ------------------------------------------------------------
>> ------------
>>         De: Teivainen, Teivo <mailto:teivo.teivainen@...>
>>         Enviado: ‎16/‎09/‎2017 13:05
>>         Para: Francine Mestrum <mailto:mestrum@...>; Indra
>>         Adhikari <mailto:indrajnu@...>; Marko Ulvila
>>         <mailto:marko.ulvila@...>
>>         Cc: Nigd-list <mailto:nigd-list@...>
>>         Assunto: Re: [nigd-list] Re: [nigd-list] NIGD in the WSF IC Fwd:
>>         [Wsfic_fsmci] RENOVACIÓN DE LA ADHESIÓN DE LOS MEMBRADOS DEL
>>         CI/RENEWAL OF THE MEMBERSHIP OF IC/RENOVAÇÃO DA ADESÃO DOS
>>         MEMBROS DO CI DO FSM/RENOUVELLEMENT DE L´ADHÉSION DES MEMBRES DU
>> CI
>>
>>         Dear NIGD,
>>
>>
>>         Thanks for reacting, I was horribly busy finishing a book (it
>>         finally happened a few days ago) and letting too many things
>>         aside. I think Matti's proposal is excellent and that is indeed
>>         something NIGD has at least sometimes tried to do in the
>>         process. Supposedly, the minutes and even recordings became more
>>         openly distributed at some point, but there seems to have been
>>         some lapse to the old bad habits in this sense.
>>
>>
>>         I would be really happy to see other people getting involved in
>>         representing NIGD in the IC. I have been doing it for such a
>>         long time that it feels embarrassing. If needed, I can still
>>         continue to do some part in that kind of role. but please do not
>>         hesitate to suggest something else.
>>
>>
>>         As NIGD, are we planning to do something in the next WSF, taking
>>         place in Salvador (Brazil) on March 13-17?
>>
>>
>>         http://fsm2018.org/en/
>>
>>         Fórum Social Mundial -FSM 2018 - 13 a 17 de Março de 2
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=de+Mar%C3%A7o+de+2&entry=gmail&source=g>018
>>         <http://fsm2018.org/en/>
>>         fsm2018.org <http://fsm2018.org>
>>         PT - ES - EN - FR - AR - Fórum Social Mundial - FMS2018 - World
>>         Social Fórum - WSF 2018 - Salvador - 13 a 17 de Março de 2018 -
>>         Participe!
>>
>>
>>         Best from Barcelona (where the European International Studies
>>         Association conference is ending now),
>>
>>
>>
>>         Teivo
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         Teivo Teivainen
>>
>>         Professor of World Politics
>>         Department of Political and Economic Studies
>>         Unioninkatu 37
>>         <https://maps.google.com/?q=Unioninkatu+37&entry=gmail&source=g>,
>> POB
>>         54
>>         00014 University of Helsinki, Finland
>>
>>         * twitter:    @TeivoTeivainen
>>         * e-mail: teivo.teivainen@...
>>         <https://webmail.helsinki.fi/horde/imp/dynamic.php?page=mailbox#>
>>         * blog 1: teivo.net <http://www.teivo.net/>
>>
>>         * blog 2: blogs.helsinki.fi/teivaine/
>>         <http://blogs.helsinki.fi/teivaine/>
>>
>>
>>         * direct phone: +358-50-3505120 <tel:+358%2050%203505120>
>>
>>         ------------------------------------------------------------
>> ------------
>>         *From:* owner-nigd-list@...
>>         <mailto:owner-nigd-list@...> <owner-nigd-list@...
>>         <mailto:owner-nigd-list@...>> on behalf of Francine
>>         Mestrum <mestrum@... <mailto:mestrum@...>>
>>         *Sent:* Saturday, September 16, 2017 11:28:02 AM
>>         *To:* Indra Adhikari; Marko Ulvila
>>         *Cc:* Nigd-list
>>         *Subject:* Re: [nigd-list] Re: [nigd-list] NIGD in the WSF IC
>>         Fwd: [Wsfic_fsmci] RENOVACIÓN DE LA ADHESIÓN DE LOS MEMBRADOS
>>         DEL CI/RENEWAL OF THE MEMBERSHIP OF IC/RENOVAÇÃO DA ADESÃO DOS
>>         MEMBROS DO CI DO FSM/RENOUVELLEMENT DE L´ADHÉSION DES MEMBRES DU
>> CI
>>
>>         Dear all,
>>
>>         Of course NIGD should renew its IC membership, and I fully agree
>>         with Matti's approach.
>>
>>         Francine
>>
>>
>>         Op 15/09/2017 om 10:51 schreef Indra Adhikari:
>>
>>>         Dear all
>>>
>>>         I also feel that NIGD should renew IC membership.
>>>
>>>         Regards
>>>         Uddhab
>>>
>>>         On 15 Sep 2017 1:40 pm, "Marko Ulvila"
>>>         <marko.ulvila@... <mailto:marko.ulvila@...>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>             Dear NIGD friends,
>>>
>>>             today is the dead line for the IC members to indicate
>>>             their interest in carrying on. To me it seems the NIGD has
>>>             not yet reacted. I think it would be a good idea.
>>>
>>>             I would suggest Teivo to be one of the NIGD delegates. For
>>>             a good balance, the other should be ideally a woman from
>>>             the South. Are there some among us who could volunteer /
>>>             agree? If there is no immediate response, I guess we could
>>>             write now just Teivo's name and add the other name later.
>>>
>>>             Best, Marko
>>>
>>>             -------- Välitetty viesti / Fwd.Msg --------
>>>             Aihe:   [Wsfic_fsmci] RENOVACIÓN DE LA ADHESIÓN DE LOS
>>>             MEMBRADOS DEL CI/RENEWAL OF THE MEMBERSHIP OF IC/RENOVAÇÃO
>>>             DA ADESÃO DOS MEMBROS DO CI DO FSM/RENOUVELLEMENT DE
>>>             L´ADHÉSION DES MEMBRES DU CI
>>>             Päiväys:        Wed, 2 Aug 2017 22:30:52 +0100
>>>             Lähettäjä:      hsoubhi via Wsfic_fsmci
>>>             <wsfic_fsmci@...
>>>             <mailto:wsfic_fsmci@...>>
>>>             Vastausosoite:  FSM WSF International Council
>>>             <wsfic_fsmci@...
>>>             <mailto:wsfic_fsmci@...>>
>>>             Vastaanottaja:  FSM WSF International Council
>>>             <wsfic_fsmci@...
>>>             <mailto:wsfic_fsmci@...>>
>>>             CC:     hsoubhi <hsoubhi@...
>>>             <mailto:hsoubhi@...>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>             ES/ENG/POR/FR
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>             Compañeras / Compañeros de movimientos y organizaciones
>>>             sociales, miembros del Consejo Internacional del Foro
>>>             Social Mundial
>>>
>>>              El correr de la vida envuelve todo, la vida es así:
>>>
>>>             se calienta y se refresca, aprieta y de ahí afloja,
>>>             sostiene y luego desinquieta.
>>>
>>>             ¿Qué es lo que quiere de nosotros es el valor.
>>>
>>>                    Guimarães Rosa
>>>
>>>
>>>             En la Carta de Principios del FSM, desarrollado en 2001,
>>>             nos hemos comprometido, entre otras cosas, para oponerse
>>>             "a toda visión totalitaria y reduccionista de la economía,
>>>             el desarrollo y la historia y al uso de la violencia como
>>>             un medio de control social por parte del estado ".
>>>             Aceptamos el principio de la lucha por los Derechos
>>>             Humanos", debido, por cierto la práctica de la democracia
>>>             participativa, igualitaria, solidaria y las relaciones
>>>             pacíficas entre las personas, etnias, géneros y pueblos,
>>>             condenando a todas las formas de dominación y que la
>>>             presentación de un ser humano por otro ".
>>>
>>>
>>>             La coyuntura mundial que motivó la existencia del FSM es
>>>             pasada por transformaciones importantes en el curso de los
>>>             15 últimos años, pero los desafíos de este último
>>>             permanecen indispensables y urgentes.
>>>
>>>
>>>             En esta perspectiva, nos ponemos en contacto con todas las
>>>             organizaciones y movimientos de la sociedad civil que
>>>             conforman la lista de miembros del CI del FSM, para
>>>             invitar a reafirmar su voluntad de unirse a sus esfuerzos
>>>             con el fin de transformarse en una acción eficaz de cada
>>>             principio expresado en la Carta de Principios del FSM y
>>>             para comunicar los nombres y ponerse en contacto con sus
>>>             representantes
>>>
>>>
>>>             El Consejo Internacional del FSM está en una fase de
>>>             reestructuración y la participación de todas y todos los
>>>             que forman parte de su historia, antigua y reciente, es de
>>>             fundamental importancia.
>>>
>>>              En este sentido, solicitamos que responda a esta
>>>             correspondencia más tarde del 15 de septiembre, 2017, con
>>>             la siguiente información:
>>>
>>>             Nombre de la organización o movimiento de la sociedad civil:
>>>
>>>             La organización reafirma su interés en ser parte de la FSM
>>> IC:
>>>             (    ) si     (    )no
>>>
>>>             Motivo:
>>>
>>>
>>>             En caso afirmativo, la organización debe designar
>>>             representantes con poder de decisión en las reuniones en
>>>             las que participa:
>>>             1-
>>>
>>>             2-
>>>
>>>              Nuestra próxima reunión del CI se llevará a cabo en
>>>             Salvador de Bahia , del 15 al 18 de octubre de 2017. Más
>>>             información será enviada en breve.
>>>
>>>             saludos militantes,
>>>             Secretaría de CI
>>>
>>>             Hamouda e Alaa
>>>
>>>             Fsmaghreb
>>>
>>>             ————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————
>>> ——————————————
>>>             Dear Comrades of organizations and social movements,
>>>             members of the International Council of the World Social
>>>             Forum,
>>>
>>>             "The race of life envelops everything, life is like this:
>>>             It heats and cools, tightens and loosens, she rests then
>>>             calms down.
>>>             What she wants from us is courage. "
>>>
>>>              In the WSF Charter of Principles, developed in 2001, we
>>>             are committed, among other things, to oppose "to all
>>>             totalitarian and reductionist vision of the economy,
>>>             development and history and to the use of violence as a
>>>             means of social control by the State ". We accept the
>>>             principle of fighting for "Human Rights, Due for true
>>>             participatory democracy practice, egalitarian, solidarity
>>>             and peaceful relations among people, ethnicities, genders
>>>             and peoples, and condemns all forms of domination and the
>>>             submission of one human being by another ".
>>>
>>>
>>>             The global situation that motivated the existence of the
>>>             WSF went through leading to great changes over the past 15
>>>             years, but the challenges of the latter remain
>>>             indispensable and urgent.
>>>
>>>             In this perspective, we come into contact with all
>>>             organizations and movements of civil society movements
>>>        that are members of the IC, to invite you to reaffirm your
>>>             willingness to join your efforts in order to transform
>>>             into effective action each of the principles expressed in
>>>             the Charter of Principles of the WSF as well as to
>>>             communicate to us the names and contacts of your
>>>             representatives
>>>
>>>             The International Council of the WSF is in the process of
>>>             restructuring and the participation of all who are part of
>>>             its history, old and recent, is of fundamental importance
>>>
>>>             In this regard, we ask you to reply to this correspondence
>>>             no later than 15 September 2017, providing the following
>>>             information:
>>>
>>>             Name of Civil Society Organization or Movement:
>>>
>>>              The organization reaffirms its interest in being part of
>>>             the IC:
>>>
>>>              (  ) Yes  ,    (   ) No
>>>
>>>              Motivation :
>>>
>>>              If affirmative, the organization shall delegate
>>>             representatives with decision-making power in the meetings
>>>             in which it participates:
>>>
>>>             1:
>>>
>>>             2:
>>>
>>>             Our next IC meeting will be held in Salvador, from 15 to
>>>             18 October 2017. Further information will be sent shortly.
>>>
>>>              Solidarity
>>>             IC  Secretariat
>>>
>>>             Alaa and hamouda
>>>
>>>             FSMaghreb
>>>
>>>             ————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————
>>> —————————————————————————————————Prezados/as
>>>             companheiros/as das entidades e movimentos sociais que
>>>             integram o Conselho Internacional do Fórum Social Mundial.
>>>
>>
>>         [Não está incluída a mensagem original completa.]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     --     +++++++
>>     Matti Kohonen,
>>     The New Chalet
>>     Sheets Heath Lane
>>     Brookwood
>>     Surrey
>>     GU24 0EH
>>     United Kingdom
>>     +447966160803 <tel:+44%207966%20160803>
>>
>>
>>

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